[babeta]

(Original post by PoGo HoPz)
Your outlook on everything is wrong.

Seriously, where do you get off on convincing yourself that a homosexual couple's intentions for marriage are anything other than an act of their love for each other? And what's more, trying to poison the minds of others by expressing your sordid views on a student forum?

Honestly dude, you're not right.

Its not an act of love...its sick!! What the hell people are you crazy? Homosexuals have distorted views of love. Its been proved that homosexuality is a psychosis which should be cured, its not natural at all. I guess this society is so liberal and wicked that we can see difference between normal and unnatural things. Btw if they want to get marry okej but church is not the place which should support their disease but help them with that.Otherwise it would be contemptible...

[PoGo HoPz]

(Original post by babeta)
Its not an act of love...its sick!! What the hell people are you crazy? Homosexuals have distorted views of love. Its been proved that homosexuality is a psychosis which should be cured, its not natural at all. I guess this society is so liberal and wicked that we can see difference between normal and unnatural things. Btw if they want to get marry okej but church is not the place which should support their disease but help them with that.Otherwise it would be contemptible...

You're funny.

[Scienceisgood]

(Original post by babeta)
Its not an act of love...its sick!! What the hell people are you crazy? Homosexuals have distorted views of love. Its been proved that homosexuality is a psychosis which should be cured, its not natural at all. I guess this society is so liberal and wicked that we can see difference between normal and unnatural things. Btw if they want to get marry okej but church is not the place which should support their disease but help them with that.Otherwise it would be contemptible...

I suppose ignorance is bliss. If homosexuality isn't natural, how is it that it has been documented in nature?
Also, what about parthenogeneses, this shows a species progressed TOWARDS homosexuality.

[minimarshmallow]

(Original post by babeta)
Its not an act of love...its sick!! What the hell people are you crazy? Homosexuals have distorted views of love. Its been proved that homosexuality is a psychosis which should be cured, its not natural at all. I guess this society is so liberal and wicked that we can see difference between normal and unnatural things. Btw if they want to get marry okej but church is not the place which should support their disease but help them with that.Otherwise it would be contemptible...

Aww, you made so many mistakes I hope that you're trolling.

It's not a disease. To say it's bad because it's unnatural is a fallacy, and it is actually natural anyway. If the Church wants to marry them, then the Church should be allowed to, but not forced to if they don't want to.

[babeta]

(Original post by minimarshmallow)
Aww, you made so many mistakes I hope that you're trolling.

It's not a disease. To say it's bad because it's unnatural is a fallacy, and it is actually natural anyway. If the Church wants to marry them, then the Church should be allowed to, but not forced to if they don't want to.

Well concerning mistakes, Im not from English-speaking country and writing has never been my strong point but homosexuality...if you accept it what do u think is a family? Would you like to be raised by two men or women?...guess not. I just think something is not right thats all

[RandZul'Zorander]

(Original post by babeta)
Its not an act of love...its sick!! What the hell people are you crazy? Homosexuals have distorted views of love. Its been proved that homosexuality is a psychosis which should be cured, its not natural at all. I guess this society is so liberal and wicked that we can see difference between normal and unnatural things. Btw if they want to get marry okej but church is not the place which should support their disease but help them with that.Otherwise it would be contemptible...

Its interesting that you say all this...what makes you think it isn't love? And I would like to see where it's been proven that homosexuality is a psychosis because this must have happened really recently. As far as I know all major psychological and health organizations say otherwise. And how can you cure it? So far no evidence supports that sexual orientation can change. And them if course you committed the naturalistic fallacy. Infanticide is natural. Is that good? No? Well then something being natural or unnatural does not determine if it is good or bad. Now as far as churches go what about churches that want to marry homosexuals? You seem to only want to defend the churches against them which makes you quite hypocritical.


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[minimarshmallow]

(Original post by babeta)
Well concerning mistakes, Im not from English-speaking country and writing has never been my strong point but homosexuality...if you accept it what do u think is a family? Would you like to be raised by two men or women?...guess not. I just think something is not right thats all

I'm talking about mistakes in general knowledge and facts, not language.
And a family is a couple, or one or more parent(s) with one or more child(ren).
And I would have been fine to have been raised by two men or two women, and in fact an old friend of mine was raised by two women, so let's try not to assume that we all hold your bigoted point of view, eh?

You can think it's not right all you like, but the arguments you put forward for why you think so are either fallacious (and therefore worthless) or false - therefore you have no logical reason to think that, and no grounds to convince anyone else to think the same.

[Scienceisgood]

(Original post by babeta)
Well concerning mistakes, Im not from English-speaking country and writing has never been my strong point but homosexuality...if you accept it what do u think is a family? Would you like to be raised by two men or women?...guess not. I just think something is not right thats all

What about people who grow up in single parent households?

[Scootaloo]

(Original post by Scienceisgood)

I suppose ignorance is bliss. If homosexuality isn't natural, how is it that it has been documented in nature?
Also, what about parthenogeneses, this shows a species progressed TOWARDS homosexuality.

I though parthenogenes was the name for a form of asexual reproduction (i.e it doesn't require the gametes of the counterpart sex) that produces embryos and not anything to do with explicitly homosexuality unless you'r referring to that New Mexico Whiptail (all female lizard species) that does engage in mock mating with each other

[Scienceisgood]

(Original post by Scootaloo)
I though parthenogenes was the name for a form of asexual reproduction (i.e it doesn't require the gametes of the counterpart sex) that produces embryos and not anything to do with explicitly homosexuality unless you'r referring to that New Mexico Whiptail (all female lizard species) that does engage in mock mating with each other

It does but it often has to engage in sex in order to ovulate. So, quite clearly these lizards found it beneficial to kill off an entire gender. o.0

[Scootaloo]

(Original post by Scienceisgood)
It does but it often has to engage in sex in order to ovulate

Not in all cases true: Komodo Dragon Flora who gave birth to 7 males at Chester Zoo 2006. Komodo Dragons are usually kept separated at Zoos so I doubt she had a female to get jiggy with. I find the fact Komodo Dragons can use both parthenogensis and sexual reproduction to produce offspring awesome.

Also a related form of Parthenogensis, Gynogenesis is the required presence of a sperm to stimulate the egg into developing. So hetrosexual sex is needed gain the sperm to stimulate egg development (but the sperm doesn't fetilise it)

Anyway my point is I agree with you: When somebody says "Oh but thats not natural so eww" I laugh to myself thinking, if only you knew the type of stuff animals got up to.

Oh Biology

[Tutups]

I'm bi and if I ever wanted to prove my commitment to a woman I was in a relationship with the last place I'd go would be where I was slandered, treated like a lesser being and called insane and dirty. But if people want to do that and have their own reasons I respect that and they should be allowed. Last time I checked no one give a damn what hetrosexual couples do in private as long as no one gets hurt so why do they care if its a gay/les/trans couple? You know what "let s/he who is without sin cast the first stone"... I'm waiting...

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[Jester94]

To answer the OP (haven't read through the thread yet) I'd say that anybody who is particularly religious, whether straight, gay, bisexual etc, would like to get married in a church.

[DYKWIA]

The sad thing is that they are trying to force churches to marry gays against the will of the churches.

[Presenttime]

I think it is up to the religious institution to decide whether to marry gays. I am a secular person and believe in love, any gays can marry in my house if they want, but don't go where you are not wanted !

[tc92]

(Original post by Tutups)
I'm bi and if I ever wanted to prove my commitment to a woman I was in a relationship with the last place I'd go would be where I was slandered, treated like a lesser being and called insane and dirty. But if people want to do that and have their own reasons I respect that and they should be allowed. Last time I checked no one give a damn what hetrosexual couples do in private as long as no one gets hurt so why do they care if its a gay/les/trans couple? You know what "let s/he who is without sin cast the first stone"... I'm waiting...

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Made this point plenty of times in various threads, but people do give a damn what heterosexual couples do, hence laws against incest (a brother and a sister who only have anal sex, hence no possibility of a child with disabilities; who's hurt?) and banning polygamy.

Whether or not people should care what others do in the privacy of their own bedrooms is another issue; but to say people only care about homosexuals is false.

[kka25]

I'm just here.

[Tutups]

(Original post by tc92)
Made this point plenty of times in various threads, but people do give a damn what heterosexual couples do, hence laws against incest (a brother and a sister who only have anal sex, hence no possibility of a child with disabilities; who's hurt?) and banning polygamy.

Whether or not people should care what others do in the privacy of their own bedrooms is another issue; but to say people only care about homosexuals is false.

Yes I have because I feel very strongly about it. And I take your point that they care about some things hetrosexuals do, what I mean is that while there are genetic reasons for a brother and sister not to have intercourse (disabled child etc ), banning polygamy this is not talked about as much because there are sound scientific reasons for it. I know what incest does to families and offspring ive seen it and I wouldn't wish it on anyone irl, I just wouldn't. Except the spread of a few sti's caused by lack of education there is little to no scientific evidence that lgbt people are doing anything wrong or that there's anything wrong with them (except MAYBE gender dystopia if the "sufferer" cannot come to terms with themselves and I only say that because the "treatement" is surgery -kinda vague I'm not transphobic but I get why some people could argue trans as a legitimate illness).

Your 2nd to last point I agree with too, its a different issue. And on your last pt is just like to say that I oversimplify like that for space/time constraints but I have already addressed it so ill leave it there.

I hope I've addressed your comment and not offended you or anyone else in the process, I deffo haven't meant to if I have

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[tc92]

(Original post by Tutups)
Yes I have because I feel very strongly about it. And I take your point that they care about some things hetrosexuals do, what I mean is that while there are genetic reasons for a brother and sister not to have intercourse (disabled child etc ), banning polygamy this is not talked about as much because there are sound scientific reasons for it. I know what incest does to families and offspring ive seen it and I wouldn't wish it on anyone irl, I just wouldn't. Except the spread of a few sti's caused by lack of education there is little to no scientific evidence that lgbt people are doing anything wrong or that there's anything wrong with them (except MAYBE gender dystopia if the "sufferer" cannot come to terms with themselves and I only say that because the "treatement" is surgery -kinda vague I'm not transphobic but I get why some people could argue trans as a legitimate illness).

Your 2nd to last point I agree with too, its a different issue. And on your last pt is just like to say that I oversimplify like that for space/time constraints but I have already addressed it so ill leave it there.

I hope I've addressed your comment and not offended you or anyone else in the process, I deffo haven't meant to if I have

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Sorry, I meant that I'd made my point on various threads, not that you were going on about it.

I take your points, but again, let me present a more specific example: a brother and sister, whose parents have both died and have no remaining family, not wishing to give birth to a child with birth defects, they want to have sex but only ever have anal or oral sex (i.e. exactly the same circumstances as a homosexual couple in the sense of no risk whatsoever of children). Should that couple be allowed to do so?

If you don't believe so, then the argument that we have no right to interfere with what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms falls down.

And to be perfectly honest, the only argument I can think of to stop them is: "it's just weird and not normal". And you know where that description's been used before...

[Tutups]

(Original post by tc92)
Sorry, I meant that I'd made my point on various threads, not that you were going on about it.

I take your points, but again, let me present a more specific example: a brother and sister, whose parents have both died and have no remaining family, not wishing to give birth to a child with birth defects, they want to have sex but only ever have anal or oral sex (i.e. exactly the same circumstances as a homosexual couple in the sense of no risk whatsoever of children). Should that couple be allowed to do so?

If you don't believe so, then the argument that we have no right to interfere with what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms falls down.

And to be perfectly honest, the only argument I can think of to stop them is: "it's just weird and not normal". And you know where that description's been used before...

Oh sorry,

I don't see why not, they're not hurting anyone assuming they both consent and are of the legal age to do so and aren't flaunting it or forcing it on other people ie. Keeping what happens between them private as it should be. And if the only argument against is the "ick" factor well, like you say...

Yes, I'm sure I've heard it somewhere before(!)

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