Why don't you like the Daily Mail?
The thing that I like about the DM is the quality of the journalism they produce. Everyday, I see an exciting array of stories that covers a broad range of issues. They don't fear to tread where other, more "popular" papers wouldn't. Indeed, they also promote alot of good causes. Yet on this forum, the paper is referred to as the "Daily Fail". Why do people feel so badly about this paper?
Neg all you want. The circulation figures speak for themselves
Neg all you want. The circulation figures speak for themselves
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Well, they're a bunch of hypocrites who are dead against banning porn on the internet but are happy to post pictures of teenage girls in their bikinis/underwear every day, and their articles are riddled with spelling and factual errors. It's absolute rubbish.
I direct you to Russell Howard's opinion, it sums it up quite nicely:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPEzM2oV-PY
I direct you to Russell Howard's opinion, it sums it up quite nicely:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPEzM2oV-PY
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Original post by Cephalus
The thing that I like about the DM is the quality of the journalism they produce. Everyday, I see an exciting array of stories that covers a broad range of issues. They don't fear to tread where other, more "popular" papers wouldn't. Indeed, they also promote alot of good causes. Yet on this forum, the paper is referred to as the "Daily Fail". Why do people feel so badly about this paper?
Because it's full of absolute nonsense written by a bunch of bigots
I dont like it because its full of s***
Original post by Soph.Jade
Because it's full of absolute nonsense written by a bunch of bigots
Because it's full of absolute nonsense written by a bunch of bigots
No
Original post by Cephalus
No
How is that a valid response
I love the daily mail! hard hitting journalism with all the glam and celeb gossip as well! What's not to like?!
Because they're hypocrites.
One day: "JUDGE HARSH ON CONVICTED PAEDO; BROKEN BRITAIN LETS HIM HAVE MEALS COOKED BY NIGELLA LAWSON FOUR TIMES A DAY"
Next day: "EMMA WATSON! PHWOAR! BIKINI PHOTOS! PHWOAR!"
Then they had a campaign against 'the sexualisation of children' and subsequently descirbed Nicole Kidman's 4 year old daughter as having 'lithe limbs'
http://topsy.com/www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2163099/Nicole-Kidmans-daughter-Sunday-Rose-displays-lithe-limbs-approaches-fourth-birthday.html
And it's not just limited to those over 18 as well
One day: "JUDGE HARSH ON CONVICTED PAEDO; BROKEN BRITAIN LETS HIM HAVE MEALS COOKED BY NIGELLA LAWSON FOUR TIMES A DAY"
Next day: "EMMA WATSON! PHWOAR! BIKINI PHOTOS! PHWOAR!"
Then they had a campaign against 'the sexualisation of children' and subsequently descirbed Nicole Kidman's 4 year old daughter as having 'lithe limbs'
http://topsy.com/www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2163099/Nicole-Kidmans-daughter-Sunday-Rose-displays-lithe-limbs-approaches-fourth-birthday.html
And it's not just limited to those over 18 as well
They are racist, sexist and against disabled people and they are hypocrites.
It's a very biased newspaper for starters!
Anyways this is some answers i've found!
''There is a little bit of decent political reporting, but the Mail's opinion columnists are mostly absolutely dreadful, self indulgent right wing Home Counties b*tchy divas who constantly harp on about "the middle classes" i.e. people earning over £100,000 a year like themselves.
Just look at Amanda Platell, Liz Jones, Petronella Wyatt, Allison Pearson, etc. They even recycle the same jokes among themselves.
Once a year the Mail will send one of these people to a shop that normal people go to (e.g. Poundland or Aldi) so that they can write a "humorous" article about it. Also not to be missed is the annual Glastonbury article where either Liz or Petronella recoils in horror at a tiny bit of mud.
It's car crash stuff really to be honest - quite horrific but you have to look.
And I haven't even mentioned Richard Littlejohn, who moans on about "Broken Britain" from the comfort of his Florida mansion, and shows how in tune he is with modern British culture by constantly making references to (and quoting lines from) such recently made TV programmes as Dixon of Dock Green, The Sweeney, Dads Army and On The Buses.
The Mail's writers pretend to be "the voice of the people" but they clearly live in a completely different Britain from the one I've lived in for the last 30 odd years.
Oh, I forgot to mention, every so often they will commission an article about ghosts, UFOs, Raelians or Scientologists from someone like Colin Wilson (who writes the "Britain's Scariest Ghosts", "Britain's Greatest UFO Mysteries", "Britain's Most Evil Serial Killers" and similar books you often see in pound shops). They were running so many articles about Raelians at one point that Private Eye nicknamed them the "Daily Rael".
And one final thing. Pick up a copy of the Daily Mail from 30 years ago (your local city library should have them). Some of the writers are different and it's in black and white not colour, but other than that it's EXACTLY the same as it is now. They go on about New Labour causing "Broken Britain" now, but they were banging on about exactly the same sort of stuff when Maggie T was in Number 10''
Anyways this is some answers i've found!
''There is a little bit of decent political reporting, but the Mail's opinion columnists are mostly absolutely dreadful, self indulgent right wing Home Counties b*tchy divas who constantly harp on about "the middle classes" i.e. people earning over £100,000 a year like themselves.
Just look at Amanda Platell, Liz Jones, Petronella Wyatt, Allison Pearson, etc. They even recycle the same jokes among themselves.
Once a year the Mail will send one of these people to a shop that normal people go to (e.g. Poundland or Aldi) so that they can write a "humorous" article about it. Also not to be missed is the annual Glastonbury article where either Liz or Petronella recoils in horror at a tiny bit of mud.
It's car crash stuff really to be honest - quite horrific but you have to look.
And I haven't even mentioned Richard Littlejohn, who moans on about "Broken Britain" from the comfort of his Florida mansion, and shows how in tune he is with modern British culture by constantly making references to (and quoting lines from) such recently made TV programmes as Dixon of Dock Green, The Sweeney, Dads Army and On The Buses.
The Mail's writers pretend to be "the voice of the people" but they clearly live in a completely different Britain from the one I've lived in for the last 30 odd years.
Oh, I forgot to mention, every so often they will commission an article about ghosts, UFOs, Raelians or Scientologists from someone like Colin Wilson (who writes the "Britain's Scariest Ghosts", "Britain's Greatest UFO Mysteries", "Britain's Most Evil Serial Killers" and similar books you often see in pound shops). They were running so many articles about Raelians at one point that Private Eye nicknamed them the "Daily Rael".
And one final thing. Pick up a copy of the Daily Mail from 30 years ago (your local city library should have them). Some of the writers are different and it's in black and white not colour, but other than that it's EXACTLY the same as it is now. They go on about New Labour causing "Broken Britain" now, but they were banging on about exactly the same sort of stuff when Maggie T was in Number 10''
Original post by notsure
It's a very biased newspaper for starters!
Anyways this is some answers i've found!
''There is a little bit of decent political reporting, but the Mail's opinion columnists are mostly absolutely dreadful, self indulgent right wing Home Counties b*tchy divas who constantly harp on about "the middle classes" i.e. people earning over £100,000 a year like themselves.
Just look at Amanda Platell, Liz Jones, Petronella Wyatt, Allison Pearson, etc. They even recycle the same jokes among themselves.
Once a year the Mail will send one of these people to a shop that normal people go to (e.g. Poundland or Aldi) so that they can write a "humorous" article about it. Also not to be missed is the annual Glastonbury article where either Liz or Petronella recoils in horror at a tiny bit of mud.
It's car crash stuff really to be honest - quite horrific but you have to look.
And I haven't even mentioned Richard Littlejohn, who moans on about "Broken Britain" from the comfort of his Florida mansion, and shows how in tune he is with modern British culture by constantly making references to (and quoting lines from) such recently made TV programmes as Dixon of Dock Green, The Sweeney, Dads Army and On The Buses.
The Mail's writers pretend to be "the voice of the people" but they clearly live in a completely different Britain from the one I've lived in for the last 30 odd years.
Oh, I forgot to mention, every so often they will commission an article about ghosts, UFOs, Raelians or Scientologists from someone like Colin Wilson (who writes the "Britain's Scariest Ghosts", "Britain's Greatest UFO Mysteries", "Britain's Most Evil Serial Killers" and similar books you often see in pound shops). They were running so many articles about Raelians at one point that Private Eye nicknamed them the "Daily Rael".
And one final thing. Pick up a copy of the Daily Mail from 30 years ago (your local city library should have them). Some of the writers are different and it's in black and white not colour, but other than that it's EXACTLY the same as it is now. They go on about New Labour causing "Broken Britain" now, but they were banging on about exactly the same sort of stuff when Maggie T was in Number 10''
Anyways this is some answers i've found!
''There is a little bit of decent political reporting, but the Mail's opinion columnists are mostly absolutely dreadful, self indulgent right wing Home Counties b*tchy divas who constantly harp on about "the middle classes" i.e. people earning over £100,000 a year like themselves.
Just look at Amanda Platell, Liz Jones, Petronella Wyatt, Allison Pearson, etc. They even recycle the same jokes among themselves.
Once a year the Mail will send one of these people to a shop that normal people go to (e.g. Poundland or Aldi) so that they can write a "humorous" article about it. Also not to be missed is the annual Glastonbury article where either Liz or Petronella recoils in horror at a tiny bit of mud.
It's car crash stuff really to be honest - quite horrific but you have to look.
And I haven't even mentioned Richard Littlejohn, who moans on about "Broken Britain" from the comfort of his Florida mansion, and shows how in tune he is with modern British culture by constantly making references to (and quoting lines from) such recently made TV programmes as Dixon of Dock Green, The Sweeney, Dads Army and On The Buses.
The Mail's writers pretend to be "the voice of the people" but they clearly live in a completely different Britain from the one I've lived in for the last 30 odd years.
Oh, I forgot to mention, every so often they will commission an article about ghosts, UFOs, Raelians or Scientologists from someone like Colin Wilson (who writes the "Britain's Scariest Ghosts", "Britain's Greatest UFO Mysteries", "Britain's Most Evil Serial Killers" and similar books you often see in pound shops). They were running so many articles about Raelians at one point that Private Eye nicknamed them the "Daily Rael".
And one final thing. Pick up a copy of the Daily Mail from 30 years ago (your local city library should have them). Some of the writers are different and it's in black and white not colour, but other than that it's EXACTLY the same as it is now. They go on about New Labour causing "Broken Britain" now, but they were banging on about exactly the same sort of stuff when Maggie T was in Number 10''
Exactly, the DM doesnt arselick ANYBODY.
Original post by notsure
It's a very biased newspaper for starters!
Anyways this is some answers i've found!
''There is a little bit of decent political reporting, but the Mail's opinion columnists are mostly absolutely dreadful, self indulgent right wing Home Counties b*tchy divas who constantly harp on about "the middle classes" i.e. people earning over £100,000 a year like themselves.
Just look at Amanda Platell, Liz Jones, Petronella Wyatt, Allison Pearson, etc. They even recycle the same jokes among themselves.
Once a year the Mail will send one of these people to a shop that normal people go to (e.g. Poundland or Aldi) so that they can write a "humorous" article about it. Also not to be missed is the annual Glastonbury article where either Liz or Petronella recoils in horror at a tiny bit of mud.
It's car crash stuff really to be honest - quite horrific but you have to look.
And I haven't even mentioned Richard Littlejohn, who moans on about "Broken Britain" from the comfort of his Florida mansion, and shows how in tune he is with modern British culture by constantly making references to (and quoting lines from) such recently made TV programmes as Dixon of Dock Green, The Sweeney, Dads Army and On The Buses.
The Mail's writers pretend to be "the voice of the people" but they clearly live in a completely different Britain from the one I've lived in for the last 30 odd years.
Oh, I forgot to mention, every so often they will commission an article about ghosts, UFOs, Raelians or Scientologists from someone like Colin Wilson (who writes the "Britain's Scariest Ghosts", "Britain's Greatest UFO Mysteries", "Britain's Most Evil Serial Killers" and similar books you often see in pound shops). They were running so many articles about Raelians at one point that Private Eye nicknamed them the "Daily Rael".
And one final thing. Pick up a copy of the Daily Mail from 30 years ago (your local city library should have them). Some of the writers are different and it's in black and white not colour, but other than that it's EXACTLY the same as it is now. They go on about New Labour causing "Broken Britain" now, but they were banging on about exactly the same sort of stuff when Maggie T was in Number 10''
Anyways this is some answers i've found!
''There is a little bit of decent political reporting, but the Mail's opinion columnists are mostly absolutely dreadful, self indulgent right wing Home Counties b*tchy divas who constantly harp on about "the middle classes" i.e. people earning over £100,000 a year like themselves.
Just look at Amanda Platell, Liz Jones, Petronella Wyatt, Allison Pearson, etc. They even recycle the same jokes among themselves.
Once a year the Mail will send one of these people to a shop that normal people go to (e.g. Poundland or Aldi) so that they can write a "humorous" article about it. Also not to be missed is the annual Glastonbury article where either Liz or Petronella recoils in horror at a tiny bit of mud.
It's car crash stuff really to be honest - quite horrific but you have to look.
And I haven't even mentioned Richard Littlejohn, who moans on about "Broken Britain" from the comfort of his Florida mansion, and shows how in tune he is with modern British culture by constantly making references to (and quoting lines from) such recently made TV programmes as Dixon of Dock Green, The Sweeney, Dads Army and On The Buses.
The Mail's writers pretend to be "the voice of the people" but they clearly live in a completely different Britain from the one I've lived in for the last 30 odd years.
Oh, I forgot to mention, every so often they will commission an article about ghosts, UFOs, Raelians or Scientologists from someone like Colin Wilson (who writes the "Britain's Scariest Ghosts", "Britain's Greatest UFO Mysteries", "Britain's Most Evil Serial Killers" and similar books you often see in pound shops). They were running so many articles about Raelians at one point that Private Eye nicknamed them the "Daily Rael".
And one final thing. Pick up a copy of the Daily Mail from 30 years ago (your local city library should have them). Some of the writers are different and it's in black and white not colour, but other than that it's EXACTLY the same as it is now. They go on about New Labour causing "Broken Britain" now, but they were banging on about exactly the same sort of stuff when Maggie T was in Number 10''
Exactly. Plus there's that infamous article from Littlejohn basically saying prostitutes deserve to be murdered as it's an occupational hazard - needless to say I jumped at the chance to rip that apart for one of my uni assignments
Original post by Soph.Jade
How is that a valid response
It wasn't just any response... It was a Daily Mail readers response.
In WW2 the Daily Mail was a proud supporter of the Black Shirts:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Union_of_Fascists
This ideology often comes through the paper even to this day. They will print stories about immigrants, jews, gays, blacks and women; pretty much all the expected fascist ideals.
The Daily Mail, unlike say the Sun newspaper, is aimed at a lower middle class demographic. Normally older people who climbed the social scale over the past 50 years since WW2. Although these people have done reasonably well, they are typicably only educated to O Level standard. This means the Daily Mail can print false information and essentially make up stories much in the way the tabloid press do. The difference here however is that the Mail will spin a story to suit it's facist roots.
The funny thing about the Mail too, is that the stories are very hypocritical. One week brocolli will cause cancer, next week it will cure it etc etc... When you consider the target demographic however this is not an issue just as it's not an issue with the tabloid press. The Times, Guardian, Independent wouldn't get away with this because it's readership is normally educated to degree level or higher.
So...
The reason why people on this forum will hate the Daily Mail, is that it represents uneducated people; possibly our own parents who have fairly nasty views on race, homosexuality or feminism. Many students will push against this upbringing by deliberately buying/reading more left wing newspapers like the Guardian.
Also...
University is obviously a place of academic learning and education. As people become educated they will fall out of the target demographic of the mail and tabloid press. The errors and false information which "normal" people wouldn't notice become glaringly obvious! Eventually the students view of the world changes and they will want to read news media that equals that new view. This is where the broadsheets come to play.
And Me...
I don't pay much attention to newspapers. I read the Independant and my partner reads the Guardian. Have to say that I find the Guardian way too "self aware" and trendy. Although Charlie Brooker is very funny and I will read most Polly Toynbee articles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Union_of_Fascists
This ideology often comes through the paper even to this day. They will print stories about immigrants, jews, gays, blacks and women; pretty much all the expected fascist ideals.
The Daily Mail, unlike say the Sun newspaper, is aimed at a lower middle class demographic. Normally older people who climbed the social scale over the past 50 years since WW2. Although these people have done reasonably well, they are typicably only educated to O Level standard. This means the Daily Mail can print false information and essentially make up stories much in the way the tabloid press do. The difference here however is that the Mail will spin a story to suit it's facist roots.
The funny thing about the Mail too, is that the stories are very hypocritical. One week brocolli will cause cancer, next week it will cure it etc etc... When you consider the target demographic however this is not an issue just as it's not an issue with the tabloid press. The Times, Guardian, Independent wouldn't get away with this because it's readership is normally educated to degree level or higher.
So...
The reason why people on this forum will hate the Daily Mail, is that it represents uneducated people; possibly our own parents who have fairly nasty views on race, homosexuality or feminism. Many students will push against this upbringing by deliberately buying/reading more left wing newspapers like the Guardian.
Also...
University is obviously a place of academic learning and education. As people become educated they will fall out of the target demographic of the mail and tabloid press. The errors and false information which "normal" people wouldn't notice become glaringly obvious! Eventually the students view of the world changes and they will want to read news media that equals that new view. This is where the broadsheets come to play.
And Me...
I don't pay much attention to newspapers. I read the Independant and my partner reads the Guardian. Have to say that I find the Guardian way too "self aware" and trendy. Although Charlie Brooker is very funny and I will read most Polly Toynbee articles.
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Original post by conniebee
They keep giving Samantha Brick a column.
Whats wrong with Samantha Brick? I actually read her column only yesterday and she wrote an informative article on cults. You should check it out
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