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Original post by jacketpotato
Automated trains still need a driver. The Jubilee line is now fully automated to reduce journey times - but each train still has a driver to open and close doors, update passengers and deal with faults. The driver can manually take control of the train if needed.

We are still a very long way off from having driverless trains. Do you really trust that TFL will implement a system without technical faults?


Could have manual doors, quite a few trains still have the open/close buttons. Or if you do want it automated, it isn't too difficult to allow a certain time for the doors to be open then to repeatedly try closing them until all the door obstructors are on or off which is what drivers do anyway.
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Original post by Hopple
Could have manual doors, quite a few trains still have the open/close buttons. Or if you do want it automated, it isn't too difficult to allow a certain time for the doors to be open then to repeatedly try closing them until all the door obstructors are on or off which is what drivers do anyway.


I think the doors are the least of your problems when it comes yo automating trains :tongue:
So are they going to hand back their bonuses now that its emerged that passenger numbers are a lot lower than expected? Are they hell....
Original post by Hopple
You're the one who said they were downsides, so you're a bit hypocritical to then say I can't say which are downsides.

They are genuine reasons LU have given as to why they haven't yet implemented driverless trains.

Original post by pr0view
If a train can be driven by a human being and can most definitely be driven by a computer regardless of the irrelevant reasons you told someone else.

It can, and they are (the Jubilee and Central lines), but you need someone in the train to open and close the doors safely, take over the operation of the train if necessary, fix anything which goes wrong, evacuate customers if necessary, etc.
Original post by Hopple
Could have manual doors, quite a few trains still have the open/close buttons. Or if you do want it automated, it isn't too difficult to allow a certain time for the doors to be open then to repeatedly try closing them until all the door obstructors are on or off which is what drivers do anyway.

With manual doors you still need to close them completely at some point and stop allowing people on. The older trains don't have super-sensitive door edges and there's no money to implement this at the moment. Even with the newer doors, they don't always detect a bag strap, for example.

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