[Emaemmaemily]

So I watched the 10 o' clock news today, and they had figures showing that violent crime is at it's lowest in almost 30 years.
I'm not sure why, but I'd assumed that crime was ever rising and things were looking bad, but surely this is great news? It did say that petty theft like shoplifting and pickpocketing have risen, but personally I put violent crimes as a priority over them (although they obviously need to be addressed).

What do people think? Seeing as there have been police cuts, and the economic situation has been terrible, this must mean that there has been some kind of positive social change?
I know that the internet certainly highlights the existence of intollerant people, but perhaps we are (in general) becoming more tollerant and better behaved?

[bahjat93]

(Original post by Emaemmaemily)
So I watched the 10 o' clock news today, and they had figures showing that violent crime is at it's lowest in almost 30 years.
I'm not sure why, but I'd assumed that crime was ever rising and things were looking bad, but surely this is great news? It did say that petty theft like shoplifting and pickpocketing have risen, but personally I put violent crimes as a priority over them (although they obviously need to be addressed).

What do people think? Seeing as there have been police cuts, and the economic situation has been terrible, this must mean that there has been some kind of positive social change?
I know that the internet certainly highlights the existence of intollerant people, but perhaps we are (in general) becoming more tollerant and better behaved?

I think it's because the criminals have gotten smarter and are covering there tracks properly!
I negged you because your from Milton Kyenes, i don't like Milton kynes

[Emaemmaemily]

(Original post by bahjat93)
I think it's because the criminals have gotten smarter and are covering there tracks properly!
I negged you because your from Milton Kyenes, i don't like Milton kynes

Where I'm from really has no bearing on this discussion. I don't really care if you like where I'm from.

I don't think such a big fall in violent crime can simply be because people aren't being caught so much. This isn't a rate in convictions, it's a rate of the crimes themselves. Even if the criminals aren't caught, a body is often found, or someone reports that they have been badly assulted.

[NWA]

Could it be due to the fact a lot of violent criminals are in prison? Aren't prison levels at an all time high? Or maybe it's just an off year or two for murderer's etc. Who knows!

[Norton1]

(Original post by NWA)
Could it be due to the fact a lot of violent criminals are in prison? Aren't prison levels at an all time high? Or maybe it's just an off year or two for murderer's etc. Who knows!

At least an off ten years; http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...-wales#graphic

[iwantcurlyhairtoo]

They cook the books, I always take government statistics with a tablespoon of salt.

[Hopple]

It includes the riots last summer, so maybe all the violent people got their cathartic release with their free shoes and TVs. Presumably that didn't count as violent crime.

[whyumadtho]

Homicides have also fallen in America and Europe.

[Phantom Lord]

(Original post by bahjat93)
I negged you because your from Milton Kyenes, i don't like Milton kynes

[Hopple]

(Original post by bahjat93)
I negged you because your from Milton Kyenes, i don't like Milton kynes

Yeah, I hate places with tricky-to-spell names. It's as if the natives did it deliberately

[bahjat93]

(Original post by Hopple)
Yeah, I hate places with tricky-to-spell names. It's as if the natives did it deliberately

I personally think they've spelt it wrong!
My spelling is how it's suppose to be

[Hopple]

(Original post by bahjat93)
I personally think they've spelt it wrong!
My spelling is how it's suppose to be

Which spelling? You tried "Kyenes" and "kynes".

[bahjat93]

(Original post by Hopple)
Which spelling? You tried "Kyenes" and "kynes".

Kynes

[Darth Stewie]

(Original post by Emaemmaemily)
So I watched the 10 o' clock news today, and they had figures showing that violent crime is at it's lowest in almost 30 years.
I'm not sure why, but I'd assumed that crime was ever rising and things were looking bad, but surely this is great news? It did say that petty theft like shoplifting and pickpocketing have risen, but personally I put violent crimes as a priority over them (although they obviously need to be addressed).

What do people think? Seeing as there have been police cuts, and the economic situation has been terrible, this must mean that there has been some kind of positive social change?
I know that the internet certainly highlights the existence of intollerant people, but perhaps we are (in general) becoming more tollerant and better behaved?

Didn't they say it is just murder rates that are at the lowest they have been for 30 years rather than all violent crime?

[Emaemmaemily]

(Original post by Darth Stewie)
Didn't they say it is just murder rates that are at the lowest they have been for 30 years rather than all violent crime?

Yes murder is the one that's lowest in 30, the others are a decade (or there abouts) I think. I couldn't remember the specifics.

[pedmond]

Its probably classifications. Rechanging what is and is not violent crime might have something to do with it. Although i'm pretty cynical. Could be straight up true

[Bill_Gates]

some chav punched me in the ear.

[Emaemmaemily]

(Original post by pedmond)
Its probably classifications. Rechanging what is and is not violent crime might have something to do with it. Although i'm pretty cynical. Could be straight up true

It could be that.
But surely that wouldn't have changed the stats SO dramatically? Especially over the course of a decade or so? I can see what you mean though; do you think that there has been any significant social change to make violent crime lower?
Maybe it's like someone else suggested, and it's because we have such a high number of people in prison.

[TheHoodatron]

(Original post by Emaemmaemily)
So I watched the 10 o' clock news today, and they had figures showing that violent crime is at it's lowest in almost 30 years.
I'm not sure why, but I'd assumed that crime was ever rising and things were looking bad, but surely this is great news? It did say that petty theft like shoplifting and pickpocketing have risen, but personally I put violent crimes as a priority over them (although they obviously need to be addressed).

What do people think? Seeing as there have been police cuts, and the economic situation has been terrible, this must mean that there has been some kind of positive social change?
I know that the internet certainly highlights the existence of intollerant people, but perhaps we are (in general) becoming more tollerant and better behaved?

+1'd you - I've got your back.

[Fusion]

...however critics claim the stats are misleading after the Met, GMP and Strachclydde police refused to take part in the survey.


Always.