[Dippy Dip]

(Original post by Formerly Helpful_C)
Why? I find it a disgusting challenge to our customs and societal norms.

Oh well, sucks to be you.

[Formerly Helpful_C]

(Original post by Dippy Dip)
Oh well, sucks to be you.

Not particularly. I'm not bound by the false and restrictive conditions of Islam.

What I don't like, however, is how people are so afraid of criticising immigrants. The inhabitants of this website will use every underhand tactic to avoid and deflect attention away.

One day not too far from now, it will all change. Mark my words.

It might take 5, 10, 15 or even 20 years, but it will change.

[angela.]

I'm more for banning people from covering their face, if you want to cover other parts of your body do so. I just don't feel safe around people who cover their face.

[DorianGrayism]

(Original post by Formerly Helpful_C)
Not particularly. I'm not bound by the false and restrictive conditions of Islam.

What I don't like, however, is how people are so afraid of criticising immigrants. The inhabitants of this website will use every underhand tactic to avoid and deflect attention away.

One day not too far from now, it will all change. Mark my words.

It might take 5, 10, 15 or even 20 years, but it will change.

The day is already here.

All people like you do is criticise immigrants.

and to OP....Saudi Arabia is backwards. Britain is not. People don't "respect" Saudi customs. They are forced to comply with a male dominated and sexist culture under the threat of extreme force.

[Spaz Man]

I really don't understand what customs the Burqa offends.

[Revilo1]

(Original post by Formerly Helpful_C)
Why? I find it a disgusting challenge to our customs and societal norms.

Why are you so bothered about something 'challenging' our societal norms? I would hardly say these challenges are making ordinary people decide to abandon our culture, and I'm sure our culture is strong enough to accept people who are different.

Anyway, at one point treating women as second class citizens was a societal norm - do you think it was disgusting when people challenged that?

Slightly more on topic, I agree with what most other people have said. Why would you ever want our country to end up like Saudi Arabia?

[MancStudent098]

(Original post by Tahooper)
No, it really isn't.

It's a constitutional monarchy

I think you're confusing 'democracy' with 'republic'. We are both a constitutional monarchy and a parliamentary democracy.

[sugar-n-spice]

(Original post by de_monies)
The UK is a democracy. Saudi Arabia isn't. It's that bloody simple

Democracy and Liberalism aren't the same.

[Ice Constricter]

The fact that more Saudi Arabian citizens come to live in the uk than vice versa speaks volumes.
Ask any person in the world where they'd rather live and 99% of the time they'll choose Britain. We have a better country so that should make you feel happy.

[sarahlabrosse]

I am not at all racist, but i do kind of agree...

Its like, if i went into a shop with my hood up so you couldn't see my face, i would be asked to leave. In many schools, there is uproar when people where a necklace with a cross on expressing religion - however, it is acceptable to exoress religion in schools wearing a burqua, or go shopping wearing one?

In my personal opinion, in which i know i will probably get negged loads for, people that choose to live in the UK (whether they are caucasian, asian / from England, USA or Asia) should have to conform to the same laws and rules, and should not be able too get around it because of religion - If you do not like the rule, either put up with it and grit your teeth, or move.

[katierattray]

If you go to another country its fair to respect there culture, you can still wear respectable skirts. Why would people who couldn't live by the rules go there, its a big world plenty of places to go.

The Burkha is different its a sign of religion and a persons culture, what about the Muslim women who were born in Britain or the people who have came over, whats the big problem with a Burkha, its doesn't harm anyone.

[Ice Constricter]

(Original post by sarahlabrosse)
I am not at all racist, but i do kind of agree...

Its like, if i went into a shop with my hood up so you couldn't see my face, i would be asked to leave. In many schools, there is uproar when people where a necklace with a cross on expressing religion - however, it is acceptable to exoress religion in schools wearing a burqua, or go shopping wearing one?

In my personal opinion, in which i know i will probably get negged loads for, people that choose to live in the UK (whether they are caucasian, asian / from England, USA or Asia) should have to conform to the same laws and rules, and should not be able too get around it because of religion - If you do not like the rule, either put up with it and grit your teeth, or move.

If someone is stupid enough to neg you for that I'd love to see their reason why.

[kyleball]

I do not care if someone wears a Burqa, if you're allowed to wear Croqs then we should allow people the freedom to observe their religious customs.

However, it can be seen as repression for Muslim women throughout the world, and that's what I would disagree with; if they are forced.

[YMLT]

A mini-skirt is a fashion piece, whereas a Burqa is a religious object.

They are totally different and in no way comparable.

Anyway, in Britain we're actually pretty nice & let people wear what they want, even if we wouldn't wear it ourselves. This is why we have people dressed in chinos, gilets, snapbacks and hi-top trainers

[RachelSophia]

There's a difference between wearing a mini skirt in Saudi and wearing a Burqa in the UK

One is a fashion item that is supposed to elongate the legs for aesthetic purposes
the other is a religious item which symbolises an important belief

However i do wonder what would happen if there were to be a nunnery open in Saudi Arabia and loads of nuns walking around with the crucifix.

Ahh religion...

[JamalAhmed]

(Original post by idontthinkso)
It's the way the world is right now. If a terrorist kills a civilian in the West it's normal. If a western soldier kills a civilian in Afghanistan or Iraq it's the apocalypse.
I'm obviously not advocating that one situation makes the other ok. I would like them to end but when they happen, I want them both to be treated with the same gravity by the public opinion.

"kill a man from the military you're weirdo, but kill a wog from the Middle East you're a hero"

[Ray Bradbury]

(Original post by katierattray)
If you go to another country its fair to respect there culture, you can still wear respectable skirts. Why would people who couldn't live by the rules go there, its a big world plenty of places to go.

The Burkha is different its a sign of religion and a persons culture, what about the Muslim women who were born in Britain or the people who have came over, whats the big problem with a Burkha, its doesn't harm anyone.

For starters it makes them all but unemployable. How many employers would take somebody on who insisted on not showing their face. When was the last time you saw anybody wearing one and doing a job?

[YMLT]

(Original post by Ray Bradbury)
For starters it makes them all but unemployable. How many employers would take somebody on who insisted on not showing their face. When was the last time you saw anybody wearing one and doing a job?

Pretty sure employers aren't allowed to turn someone down 'because they wear a burqa'?

[fudgesundae]

(Original post by idontthinkso)
It's the way the world is right now. If a terrorist kills a civilian in the West it's normal. If a western soldier kills a civilian in Afghanistan or Iraq it's the apocalypse.
I'm obviously not advocating that one situation makes the other ok. I would like them to end but when they happen, I want them both to be treated with the same gravity by the public opinion.

I'm not really sure where you get the idea that it is normal for a western civilian to be killed by a terrorist? People in the Middle East and Asia being killed by terrorists is not really big news anymore, but when westerners are involved in a terrorist attack there is quite a lot of news coverage.

Anyway, you are comparing apples and oranges. Terrorists are criminals, simple as. Soldiers are meant to be protecting the civilians over in Afghanistan, not killing them. They fight wars so civilians don't have to.

If you see a difference in how they're portrayed then it must be down to the roles they play. Like I said earlier, Terrorists are the bad guys. Soldiers are supposed to be the good guys. When a good guy kills an innocent civilian it's always going to be more surprising and shocking than when a bad guy does it.

[Ray Bradbury]

(Original post by YMLT)
Pretty sure employers aren't allowed to turn someone down 'because they wear a burqa'?

They arent, but why else do you never see anybody employed wearing one?

This may go some way to explaining the 80% unemployment of Pakistani women.