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(Original post by PopaPork)
It’s not, but the argument used is basically because they show a little flesh this is as good as them going out naked and as such they have no morals whereas wearing a tent makes the wearer moral

Peace

But it's not a tent and that's not the argument that the OP is using so.....?

[Redheaded_Dancer]

(Original post by PopaPork)
Simply not true

Nothing I have with my bank requires facial recognition it is signature and pin numbers and personal details.

The reason why they don’t want faces covered is because in this country covering your face is considered wrong as only those ‘up to no good’ cover their faces

It’s why you have to take your motor bike helmet off when paying for petrol.

Peace

Notice how I said "part of the reason why it isn't allowed"..
Don't you think this is a stigma we should get rid of, though? Women wearing burqa's are hardly criminals now are they?
Obviously, if you go in wearing a balaclava something's up, but burqa's are a cultural/religious thing, so surely it goes against their rights to practise their religion to ask them not to wear them? Not all women wear them, I know, but why go out of your way to make somebody feel uncomfortable? If we're allowed to wear mini skirts (in this country, I mean) then they should be allowed to wear a burqa.

[SKETCHit]

(Original post by Leahcar)
You raise a good point, OP.

Hmm..really? There is hardly a point to it, imo. Saudi Arabia is an Islamic country, therefore you must abide by Islamic dress code-which prohibits uncovering between the navel and the knees for both men and women (& other laws of modesty apply etc) therefore you simply cannot walk around in a mini-skirt. It's shameless. Pure shamelessness. You just simply would not go to Saudi Arabia in such revolting dress. Reviewing this discussion, I genuinely think it's pointless and indecent.
Sorry.
Peace.

[I am Ace]

(Original post by kunoichi)
This post made me crack up so much
Have a rep

haha cheers, I guess my humour is a little too lighthearted for most! But I'm glad someone out there shares my sense of it

[Observatory]

Britain does not have a mandatory dress code so people wearing Burqas are respecting our laws even though Burqas are not historically British and are somewhat ideologically distasteful to a lot of people.

But I'm very much in favour of bombing Saudi Arabia until it legalises miniskirts.

[PopaPork]

Don't you think this is a stigma we should get rid of, though? Women wearing burqa's are hardly criminals now are they?

No they are not it’s just that in my culture (you know the culture of this country) covering your face implies criminality.

Obviously, if you go in wearing a balaclava something's up, but burqa's are a cultural/religious thing, so surely it goes against their rights to practise their religion to ask them not to wear them?

I agree however as we know the burka can be used for criminality and we do have examples of criminals now using the burka to carry out crimes. However let’s be clear this is not a religious requirement it is a cultural expression and as we know we do not judge all cultures as equal or valid.

Also I have not once said I would like them banned I support a person’s right to freedom of expression. But again I’ll ask you ‘do you support my right to wear a t-shirt calling ‘mo a pedo’?’

Not all women wear them, I know, but why go out of your way to make somebody feel uncomfortable? If we're allowed to wear mini skirts (in this country, I mean) then they should be allowed to wear a burqa

Do you agree you should be able to wear a mini skirt in Saudi Arabia? (These are after all supposed to be UNIVERSAL rights that everyone should have regardless of local customs.

But as I said it’s them making US feel uncomfortable due our cultural baggage attached to people covering their faces. If they truly respected our culture (as some are trying to claim here) they would not cover their faces just their heads (something we have no baggage attached to)

Peace

[wtfCharlie]

(Original post by I am Ace)
WHO, in their right mind would ban a miniskirt?! It's like a skirt, but sexier! I'm pretty sure evem heterosexual women love women in miniskirts. This is unacceptable, for this, I shall protest by putting all the mini skirts in the shop that I work in, on sale! Miniskirts for everyone! Even the flamboyant men...

Love this post SO much :')

[kunoichi]

(Original post by badcheesecrispy)
over there if you leave islam, drink or blaspheme look forward to having your head cut off by a bearded man in a white cloak with a sword, in the middle of the desert

Lol is it bad the first though that came to my head then was 'Gandalf!'

[Leahcar]

(Original post by SKETCHit)
Hmm..really? There is hardly a point to it, imo. Saudi Arabia is an Islamic country, therefore you must abide by Islamic dress code-which prohibits uncovering between the navel and the knees for both men and women (& other laws of modesty apply etc) therefore you simply cannot walk around in a mini-skirt. It's shameless. Pure shamelessness. You just simply would not go to Saudi Arabia in such revolting dress. Reviewing this discussion, I genuinely think it's pointless and indecent.
Sorry.
Peace.

Just because you think it's a revolting piece of clothing doesn't make it wrong to wear though.
I do agree that yes, it would be horribly insensitive to wear one in Saudi Arabia but if a Saudi Arabian came to London and went out wearing the whole shebang I bet nobody would even bat an eyelid. Just the same as wee slags from TOWIE go out in next to nothing and nobody bats an eyelid.

[badcheesecrispy]

(Original post by SKETCHit)
Hmm..really? There is hardly a point to it, imo. Saudi Arabia is an Islamic country, therefore you must abide by Islamic dress code-which prohibits uncovering between the navel and the knees for both men and women (& other laws of modesty apply etc) therefore you simply cannot walk around in a mini-skirt. It's shameless. Pure shamelessness. You just simply would not go to Saudi Arabia in such revolting dress. Reviewing this discussion, I genuinely think it's pointless and indecent.
Sorry.
Peace.

Who are you to decide what is 'shameless' and 'revolting'? Seriously, many people would describe burka as that

the uk doesnt need ridiculous clothing laws and morals, alas clothing has nothing to do with sexual morals look at them travellers

[Redheaded_Dancer]

(Original post by PopaPork)
No they are not it’s just that in my culture (you know the culture of this country) covering your face implies criminality.



I agree however as we know the burka can be used for criminality and we do have examples of criminals now using the burka to carry out crimes. However let’s be clear this is not a religious requirement it is a cultural expression and as we know we do not judge all cultures as equal or valid.

Also I have not once said I would like them banned I support a person’s right to freedom of expression. But again I’ll ask you ‘do you support my right to wear a t-shirt calling ‘mo a pedo’?’



Do you agree you should be able to wear a mini skirt in Saudi Arabia? (These are after all supposed to be UNIVERSAL rights that everyone should have regardless of local customs.

But as I said it’s them making US feel uncomfortable due our cultural baggage attached to people covering their faces. If they truly respected our culture (as some are trying to claim here) they would not cover their faces just their heads (something we have no baggage attached to)

Peace

Lots of things could be used for criminalities, but that doesn't make them illegal.
It may not be religious, but it is cultural, which to me is on the same par almost so to me, they can express that in any way they want, it's their right to.

And you can wear that shirt if you really want.. there's no law against it, it's a bit tasteless but yeah sure.

And yes of course I agree that we should be allowed to wear mini skirts in Saudi Arabia should we wish to.

I don't feel uncomfortable around women who wear burqas. They can carry on as far as I'm concerned. People are only concerned because they think face covering automatically = crime, and if you're narrow minded enough to think that everybody who wears a burqa is clearly a criminal you might want to re-evaluate your life (I'm not saying you're like that, but some are).

You talk of them respecting our culture, yet many would disrespect their culture by asking them not to wear a burqa... Seems like double standards to me!