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  1. Stringer987's Avatar
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    (Original post by johnharris19944)
    The way he conducts himself, he acts like a baby when he doesnt get what he wants but hes not as bad as he used to be. I can still appreciate though hes a fantastic driver.
    When did he last act like a baby

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  2. muffingg's Avatar
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    Re: 2012 Santander German Grand Prix
    When are they gonna decide about Vettel?
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    I hope not!! It's not his fault he was quicker than Vettel at that time.
    Exactly!
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    Dream result, Alonso putting in a brilliant drive again, ahead of Vettel, Webber nowhere, non contender Button getting up there so playing perfectly into Ferrari's hands :yep:

    McLaren looked damn fast and the pitstop was mindblowing. How can anyone do anything in 2.4 seconds? It took me 3 seconds just to watch it :awesome:

    Lotus getting the tyre strategy wrong again, surprise surprise.
  5. Marc Fiorano's Avatar
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    20 second penalty for Vettel! Down to 5th.
  6. Conzy210's Avatar
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    Enjoyed the race, particular highlight had to be Hamilton un-lapping himself, made even funnier by Vettel reacting like he did. Really disappointed for Lewis though, he seemed to have good race pace, hopefully he can turn his season round next race.

    Also, has it been confirmed Vettel has been penalised? He surely must receive some of punishment, there is no chance he'd have gained the place without driving off circuit.
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    The presenters did say before the race something about if a significant part of the car is alongside you're allowed to go off to overtake and showed the Rosberg-Hamilton incident from a previous gp to explain.



    As you can see Vettel moved left to give Button room and Button had no traction coming off that corner. Vettel should not have been penalised.

    As for the neg rating please explain. I'm not hating on Button, I'm a fan and a lot of my posts after a weekend back his performance. In this instance I feel yes he did overtake outside the race track but the penalty is harsh.
    Last edited by Like_A_G6; 22-07-2012 at 17:15.
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    What I found interesting was the Vettel and Alonso had both taken that and a few other corners wide on previous laps, which at the time gave the impression they were struggling with grip, whereas Button seemed to be on rails. Didn't take long though before Alonso started pulling ahead and Vettel was closing up behind, still going wide often. If nothing else it needs clarifying as to what is acceptable, so drivers know what they can and can't do and can take the best advantage they can.
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    (Original post by Like_A_G6)
    The presenters did say before the race something about if a significant part of the car is alongside you're allowed to go off to overtake and showed the Rosberg-Hamilton incident from a previous gp to explain.



    As you can see Vettel moved left to give Button room and Button had no traction coming off that corner. Vettel should not have been penalised.
    Of course he should have been penalised. If there was a gravel trap there then he wouldn't have made the move stick, just because its tarmac there shouldn't mean it's ok :lolwut:. It was an illegal move.
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    Take that, Alonso haters!
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    Re: 2012 Santander German Grand Prix
    Why dont who ever negged me a page back man up and tell me why you disagree with me instead of being a wimp. Its been well documented Alonso can be a bit of a jerk but i didnt criticize his driving skills, i believe hes the best around.
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    So quiet without F1Mad. Mercedes must of had a rubbish weekend!! All the Macca fans are quiet too. As if Hamilton retired

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    When Alonso finished the race he stood on the nose of the car, after he said to Button ""You couldn't beat me?" He then pointed to Vettel and said: "He couldn't either."


    On Lap 62 His message to Stella was - "I know is not easy, but stay calm. Everything is okay here"


    What a lad!!
    Last edited by Stringer987; 23-07-2012 at 00:02.
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    Re: 2012 Santander German Grand Prix
    (Original post by Marc Fiorano)
    Dream result, Alonso putting in a brilliant drive again, ahead of Vettel, Webber nowhere, non contender Button getting up there so playing perfectly into Ferrari's hands :yep:

    McLaren looked damn fast and the pitstop was mindblowing. How can anyone do anything in 2.4 seconds? It took me 3 seconds just to watch it :awesome:

    Lotus getting the tyre strategy wrong again, surprise surprise.
    I agree. Also nice sig, that car sounds incredible. Although personally I prefer his 2001 Melbourne lap just for the bit at 0:48 where Brundle says "There's probably a 27.2 or 27.2 in one of these Ferraris" only for MSC to pull out a stonker.
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    Alonso drove superb the ferrari still seems to be abit of pace but alonso's superb driving is making it win.

    Vettel is showing his true colours when times get tough, blaming hamilton for racing :rofl: i mean seriously what do you want him to do.
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    Re: 2012 Santander German Grand Prix
    Fastest pit stop from JB. Total pit lane time of 16.831 seconds.

    Competition at work for a trip to the Abu Dhabi GP. 4 people who guess nearest get to go for the weekend. I guessed 16.624...
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    Re: 2012 Santander German Grand Prix
    (Original post by Lib)
    Fastest pit stop from JB. Total pit lane time of 16.831 seconds.

    Competition at work for a trip to the Abu Dhabi GP. 4 people who guess nearest get to go for the weekend. I guessed 16.624...
    Surely your guess would have required a still time of like 2.2 seconds... That would have been crazy...

    Thought you were still in with a chance then realised like 100+ people probably entered, all with times between 16 and 18 second(ish) so it's not likely really...
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    Re: 2012 Santander German Grand Prix
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    Fastest pit stop from JB. Total pit lane time of 16.831 seconds.

    Competition at work for a trip to the Abu Dhabi GP. 4 people who guess nearest get to go for the weekend. I guessed 16.624...
    Have a nice time in Abu Dhabi!!

    Shame about Lotus' rubbish strategic calls, it will cost them dear this season
  20. Lib's Avatar
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    Re: 2012 Santander German Grand Prix
    (Original post by Motorbiker)
    Surely your guess would have required a still time of like 2.2 seconds... That would have been crazy...

    Thought you were still in with a chance then realised like 100+ people probably entered, all with times between 16 and 18 second(ish) so it's not likely really...
    The fastest last year was 17.9-something and when my boyfriend timed the stop on the video feed from last year it came out at ~4.2secs, so we went with a stop of ~2.9secs, so 1.3secs quicker than last year, hence 16.6secs.
    Last edited by Lib; 23-07-2012 at 12:31.
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