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Islam and Zakir Naik

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    There's no point arguing with Muslims. They'll always skew the argument in their own direction, never looking at the other side of the argument. Zakir Naik is a prime symbol of that, they are literally clutching at straws.

    If you take a humanistic approach when observing a debate between Muslims and atheists regarding evolution, you can tell who has the upper hand.

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    I just watched him now on tv. He didnt say anything wrong. If anything he was trying to promote equality and clearing any misunderstandings about islam.
    I havent seen anything that makes me suspicious...
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    (Original post by Freedom Writer)
    People have accused Dr Zakir Naik of “straw man arguments” and “logical fallacies” and being a “charlatan” and my personal favourite “he just says whatever crap that comes into his head.” People criticise Dr Zakir Naik for his weak, unintelligent and deceptive arguments. Yet the criticism is itself weak, unintelligent and deceptive. There is more personal hate than genuine debate in this forum.
    I don't want to be human anymore.
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    Well after reading all the comments, i better google him..
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    (Original post by Petro_99)
    exactly, the only thing he says is ayat 57 verse 24!!! lmao

    and plus he is hated by a lot of the mainstream muslim scholars.
    For me personally - his claims about Karbala being political and saying: 'Yazid (may Allah be pleased with him) make me sick

    And haha - 'verse 4, chapter 9'
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    The guys a comedian. You don't have to have a PhD in science to laugh at some of the crazy things he says. I think the video where he calls pigs the 'most shameless animal in the world' and associates eating pork with sexual promiscuity is the biggest laugh I've got from him, and proves that you can memorize the Quran and Bible all you want, but you can still be an idiot.

    He's still got a potential career in standup comedy though, so let's not write him off completely.
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    (Original post by Steevee)
    Bascially, if you're a Muslim, you'll love him.
    This is flat-out nonsense and you know it.
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    (Original post by Ilyas)
    There's no point arguing with Muslims. They'll always skew the argument in their own direction, never looking at the other side of the argument.
    Yes, all 1.6 billion Muslims will always 'skew their argument in their own direction, never looking at the other side of the argument' :facepalm:
    Keep up the daily stupidity TSR
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    Thanks for introducing me to this guy. :rofl2:

    "The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate. In America, most people consume pork. Many times after dance parties, they have swapping of wives; many say 'you sleep with my wife and I will sleep with your wife.' If you eat pigs then you behave like pigs"

    "If every woman got married to only one man, there would be over thirty million females in U.S.A, four million females in Great Britain, 5 million females in Germany and nine million females in Russia who would not find a husband. Thus the only two options before a woman who cannot find a husband is to marry a married man or to become public property."

    "In financial transactions, two men are preferred. Islam expects men to be the breadwinners of their families. Since financial responsibility is shouldered by men, they are expected to be well versed in financial transactions as compared to women. As a second option, the witness can be one man and two women, so that if one of the women errs the other can remind her."
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    (Original post by Dhaal_Chawal)
    Yes, all 1.6 billion Muslims will always 'skew their argument in their own direction, never looking at the other side of the argument' :facepalm:
    Keep up the daily stupidity TSR
    Ummm, yes, they do. The same applies to most theists. Also, not all of the 1.6 billion muslims question their faith and come on online forums (like 90% of the audience in Naiks lectures).
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    (Original post by fallenangel)
    For me personally - his claims about Karbala being political and saying: 'Yazid (may Allah be pleased with him) make me sick

    And haha - 'verse 4, chapter 9'
    lol the guy clearly has some personal issues going on :rolleyes:

    yes the claim about Yazid is truly saddening, i still cant believe people follow him after the amount of crap he says.
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    (Original post by Luxray)
    So the criticism against his point that women should either marry or become public property is weak? Women do not become 'public property' if they don't marry, they can still be religious people and have happy lives.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XpDDdjViOg
    Naik was talking about polygamy, if there are more women than men, and every man is married to one woman, hypothetically there will be a surplus amount of women who cannot legally get married. That’s why he believes polygamy should be legal, otherwise you will have these women who cannot legally get married. Obviously such a situation isn’t likely to happen any time soon. . . but you never know . . .

    He mentions that
    The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate. In America, most people consume pork. Many times after dance parties, they have swapping of wives; many say 'you sleep with my wife and I will sleep with your wife.' If you eat pigs then you behave like pigs"
    If you provide the video of his whole talk I might be able to help.

    HOW ON EARTH CAN HE DRAW SUCH A CONCLUSION?
    I have friends who eat pork and they don't share their girlfriends or boyfriends around. It's ludicrous for him to say if you eat like a pig you behave like one. If I eat a chicken do I behave like one and start pecking at the floor or poo on the floor?
    Haha if you say so
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk5q9TeGo14
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    (Original post by Ilyas)
    They'll always skew the argument in their own direction, never looking at the other side of the argument.
    Are you talking about Muslims or my mum?

    (Original post by Luxray)
    If I eat a chicken do I behave like one and start pecking at the floor or poo on the floor?
    You tell me. :eyebrow:
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    He is the poster child for many Muslims and has been for quite a while now, they think he can do know wrong or say no wrong. I reckon it's the combination of the "chapter 14, verse 7" that he constantly rolls of his tongue and the fact they consider to him to be "a man of science" and we all know how the Quran contains all scientific discoveries ever made :rolleyes:
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    There's no point arguing with Muslims.
    So you chose to argue?

    They'll always skew the argument in their own direction, never looking at the other side of the argument. Zakir Naik is a prime symbol of that, they are literally clutching at straws.

    If you take a humanistic approach when observing a debate between Muslims and atheists regarding evolution, you can tell who has the upper hand.

    You should also post a video which is pro-Zakir Naik, since you’re so unbiased. You shouldn’t skew the argument in your own direction. . . like the Muslims.
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    Edit: whoops didn't notice another poster had already posted this. apologies. Ill leave it in just for convenience.
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    (Original post by Addzter)
    Thanks for introducing me to this guy. :rofl2:

    "The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate. In America, most people consume pork. Many times after dance parties, they have swapping of wives; many say 'you sleep with my wife and I will sleep with your wife.' If you eat pigs then you behave like pigs"

    "If every woman got married to only one man, there would be over thirty million females in U.S.A, four million females in Great Britain, 5 million females in Germany and nine million females in Russia who would not find a husband. Thus the only two options before a woman who cannot find a husband is to marry a married man or to become public property."

    "In financial transactions, two men are preferred. Islam expects men to be the breadwinners of their families. Since financial responsibility is shouldered by men, they are expected to be well versed in financial transactions as compared to women. As a second option, the witness can be one man and two women, so that if one of the women errs the other can remind her."
    :lolwut:

    Is this how he wants to promote religion?
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    Check out this great insight of wisdom.

    Main quote to focus on: "If he [Osama] is terrorizing the terrorists [America], then I [Zakir Naik] am for him."

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    (Original post by Fresh Prince of)
    LOL reminds me of my grandmum and her buddies. Most of his appeal comes from the rapid firing of sources from religious scriptures in my opinion. Says the most illogical things with shameless arrogance, and the shows on that channel which feature his son as a 'prodigee' dayee of islam make me cringe even more.

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