[gagaslilmonsteruk]

(Original post by the bear)
I do not find these salad-dodgers attractive...ladies should be restricted to 12 stone max.

That's just plain rude and disrespectful! What about those who have conditions meaning that they cannot control weight gain?

[badcheesecrispy]

(Original post by cfizzle)
If she likes who she is then there's nothing to discuss - I'm sure she knows being overweight isn't good for her, but it's her life


Also LOL at the Daily Mail - "Kirstie Mouncey, 18, gets out of breath going up stairs"

I'm a size 8, 8 stones 9 and even I get out of breath going up stairs!

this is because weight and size dont equal health, in the slightest

[Norton1]

(Original post by the bear)
I do not find these salad-dodgers attractive...ladies should be restricted to 12 stone max.

Compulsory gastric bands for any dame going over this weight.

[Astronomical]

(Original post by Bellissima)
anorexia is much more immediately harmful than obesity...

They both lead to health problems, and they're both eating disorders. Obesity is no less dangerous than anorexia.

I am bewildered and infuriated by the attempts to appease the overweight too, with plus size "models" and these fat women pageants, that seem to try to convey the notion that being overweight is okay. It isn't. It's unhealthy, it's embarrassing for England and Britain as a whole (with the fattest women and second fattest men in Europe - it's shameful) and, above all, it even encourages people to be fat, to an extent.

Whilst I'm having this rant, I may as well mention that just about every overweight woman I see is with an overweight man, and any poor children they have are almost always massively overweight and undoubtedly heading down a one way road to obesity, before they've had long enough to reach an age where they realise that they hate being "the fat kid".

In any case, it goes without saying that being overweight is not a good look; nobody looks better overweight than they would with a healthy, athletic figure. I can say with certainty that it is not under any circumstance beautiful, especially so at a whopping 26 stones, carrying probably about 17/18 stones of fat.

[the bear]

(Original post by gagaslilmonsteruk)
That's just plain rude and disrespectful! What about those who have conditions meaning that they cannot control weight gain?

I find nothing to respect in gluttony.

[jo1692]

I'm all for being confident about and comfortable with your body, but when an increasing number of people are obese in Britain and are dying from real, horrible diseases as a result, I don't think it's something that should be promoted.

I also don't understand how she can feel so great - she must have trouble with everyday physical activity at that size, surely? I know there are people who are slightly overweight who are physically fit but that can't be the case here.

[Miss_Scarlett]

I could never be that size and be "happy" but then again Im a weirdo when it comes to eating, food and exercise.

It doesn't bother me if thats what she wants to do, I think its foolish though and puts unecessary strain on her body.

What REALLY irritates me, is what I saw today....obese parents taking their obese children to McDonalds to make them even more obese

[Bobo1234]

(Original post by cfizzle)
Eating too many fish suppers is hardly comparable with being a psychopath, surely!

No, those aren't comparable, but I would argue that the abnormality of the thought processes I mentioned is comparable. And eating a "few too many" fish suppers doesn't make you 26 stone...

[humpdebump17]

(Original post by Foghorn Leghorn)
She looks like jabba the hutt!

"Han, mah bukee, keel-ee caleya ku kah healthy fat. Wanta dah moole-rah confidence ha ha hah."

Actually laughed out loud at something on TSR for the first time ever. Admittedly feel slightly bad for doing so, but... eh

[KingMessi]

Oh, for god's sake. I am all for feeling good about oneself, especially given increasing preponderance of mental illness - namely, depression. However, I refuse to accept that that feeling - feeling good about oneself - shouldn't be predicated on characteristics that are actually positive. Being twenty-six stone is not a positive trait in any way, shape or form and I don't believe that the notion of feeling good about yourself for being whatever weight one is is one that's to be encouraged.

Do I want this lady to fall into depression and self-loathing? Of course not. I want her to feel good about her personality, achievements and positive character traits. However, ideally, I'd like her - and people like her - to be aware that her weight is healthy and does need to be changed, whatever her cognitive dissonance suggests.

[Vohamanah]

Of course its not healthy to be 26 stone, but I don't see that she is arguing that it is, or promoting being that size. For what it matters, I think she has a pretty face, and obviously cares about her appearance (aside from the weight).

Its going to be no mean feat to get from 26 stone to a healthy weight, and I can hardly imagine the horrible comments and laughter she gets thrown at her everyday just going to the shops, or taking a walk, or even leaving her house. Her life must be absolutely dreadful.

So I don't begrudge her wanting to spend one day in a beauty pagent, dressing up nicely and being complimented. Just because she's that size doesn't stop her from being human. She doesn't have to wallow in self-hatred every minute of every day. I'm sure she gets enough hatred from other people.

I very much doubt that anyone is going to look at either her or the BBW pagent and think "Now if only I could put on another 15 stone I could look like her and enter that pagent". Its not promoting obesity to people who are not obese. What it is is giving people who would normally be labelled "freaks" one day a year to actually look forward to. Which I think is quite commendable.

There was nothing to indicate that any of the women entering were not dieting, or not encouraged to diet. I assume that not all of the participants are 26 stone. She's hardly going to be barred from entering if she loses some weight. I don't see how that is promoting obesity. Rather it is promoting self-confidence in people whose self-confidence must be extremely low.

[Hopple]

(Original post by Vohamanah)
Of course its not healthy to be 26 stone, but I don't see that she is arguing that it is, or promoting being that size. For what it matters, I think she has a pretty face, and obviously cares about her appearance (aside from the weight).

Its going to be no mean feat to get from 26 stone to a healthy weight, and I can hardly imagine the horrible comments and laughter she gets thrown at her everyday just going to the shops, or taking a walk, or even leaving her house. Her life must be absolutely dreadful.

So I don't begrudge her wanting to spend one day in a beauty pagent, dressing up nicely and being complimented. Just because she's that size doesn't stop her from being human. She doesn't have to wallow in self-hatred every minute of every day. I'm sure she gets enough hatred from other people.

I very much doubt that anyone is going to look at either her or the BBW pagent and think "Now if only I could put on another 15 stone I could look like her and enter that pagent". Its not promoting obesity to people who are not obese. What it is is giving people who would normally be labelled "freaks" one day a year to actually look forward to. Which I think is quite commendable.

There was nothing to indicate that any of the women entering were not dieting, or not encouraged to diet. I assume that not all of the participants are 26 stone. She's hardly going to be barred from entering if she loses some weight. I don't see how that is promoting obesity. Rather it is promoting self-confidence in people whose self-confidence must be extremely low.

"Oh no, I'm getting fat and I hate that. I better go lose some weight"
or
"Oh no, I'm getting fat and I hate that. Hang on, that lady there seems pretty okay with her size, I'll be alright getting just a liitle bigger, and I'll do exercise later"

[Vohamanah]

(Original post by Hopple)
"Oh no, I'm getting fat and I hate that. I better go lose some weight"
or
"Oh no, I'm getting fat and I hate that. Hang on, that lady there seems pretty okay with her size, I'll be alright getting just a liitle bigger, and I'll do exercise later"

People who are "fat" are still human beings. They don't have to do penance every second of every minute of every day for their size. Its allowed to feel ok about yourself every now and then without the whole of society jumping on your back for not engaging in self-flagellation.

[Hopple]

(Original post by Vohamanah)
People who are "fat" are still human beings. They don't have to do penance every second of every minute of every day for their size. Its allowed to feel ok about yourself every now and then without the whole of society jumping on your back for not engaging in self-flagellation.

Her weight doesn't define her as a person, so don't she has to be happy with her weight to be happy with herself as a person.

[PinkMobilePhone]

Being morbidly obese is not healthy in any way, shape, or form.

I say this as the wife of somebody who has been 33 stone 3lbs at his biggest (currently he's 23 stone 8lbs). He is not healthy - he knows it, I know it, and though it doesn't bother me from an aesthetic point of view, the fact that it is bad for his health bothers me a lot.

If the girl in the beauty pageant is happy being morbidly obese, fine, but she shouldn't be promoting it.

[Vohamanah]

(Original post by Hopple)
Her weight doesn't define her as a person, so don't she has to be happy with her weight to be happy with herself as a person.

You're right, her weight doesn't define her as a person. So surely she has as much right as anyone to celebrate herself without people trying to make her feel bad for it.

I'd understand if she was opening a fast food restaurant or something, and promoting other people putting on weight, but she's not, she's just entering a beauty contest. I don't see why its a big issue or why complete strangers suddenly care so much about her health.

[Hopple]

(Original post by Vohamanah)
You're right, her weight doesn't define her as a person. So surely she has as much right as anyone to celebrate herself without people trying to make her feel bad for it.

I'd understand if she was opening a fast food restaurant or something, and promoting other people putting on weight, but she's not, she's just entering a beauty contest. I don't see why its a big issue or why complete strangers suddenly care so much about her health.

She's specifically said she's happy with her weight. That's really not good. You however say that she has to be happy with her weight to be happy with her person, why?

[Vohamanah]

(Original post by Hopple)
She's specifically said she's happy with her weight. That's really not good. You however say that she has to be happy with her weight to be happy with her person, why?

No I didn't?

[alexs2602]

(Original post by cfizzle)
Also LOL at the Daily Mail - "Kirstie Mouncey, 18, gets out of breath going up stairs"

I'm a size 8, 8 stones 9 and even I get out of breath going up stairs!

I imagine she's walking though and you're running. Big difference.

[EGjeff]

Vile creature. Excellent role model for the kids she looks after as well!

I generally have no respect or sympathy for obese people.