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    (Original post by Jack93o)
    I can describe it however I want, just like how you've interpreted that I'm somehow 'discrediting' myself. Oh well don't hesistate, let the blind hate from your anger flow as freely as possible
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    (Original post by Oh my Ms. Coffey)
    I'd say a white male coming first in the 100m sprint at the Olympics would be the greatest achievement.
    When pigs fly. Speaking of race, why are there hardly any black people in cycling compared to the other sports? The cycle team is all white and from experience black people don't seem to be too big on cycling. All the pro guys (so not including casuals or commuters) I see and race on the road are usually middle aged white males.

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    Sorry, but I just can't warm to Bradley Wiggins.
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    (Original post by Oh my Ms. Coffey)
    I'd say a white male coming first in the 100m sprint at the Olympics would be the greatest achievement.
    Basically a non african descend coming first would be an achievement lol
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    Can there even be ONE "greatest" sporting achievement? Like some one said earlier on this thread, winning four grand slam is great. As a cyclist, you aspire to win the Tour de France, as is the most gruelling event in the cycling world. Just like how a footballer aspires to win the world cup. Depicting the greatest of them all is really a subjective thing. A Tennis player will say winning the US/French/Australian/Wimbledon or all four as the greatest, footballer would say UEFA Champion League/ UEFA Euro Tournament/Fifa World Cup, A sprinter would Olympic Gold and so on. You just can't pick the universal greatest, it is impossible.
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    (Original post by Podcaster)
    When pigs fly. Speaking of race, why are there hardly any black people in cycling compared to the other sports? The cycle team is all white and from experience black people don't seem to be too big on cycling. All the pro guys (so not including casuals or commuters) I see and race on the road are usually middle aged white males.

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    I was thinking that only just the other day. I have never seen a black cyclist on the TDF, or even the Olympics.


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    Winning the tour de France without the drugs showing up in your system is the greatest achievement in biochemistry, that's for sure.

    Seriously, in other individual sports (can't really compare it to a team sport) I am sure there are other feats that are comparable if not superior, like winning all four majors in the year etc.

    I'd say a golfer winning all four majors would be something pretty special. Every year someone wins the TdF. Not every year do you get 4 majors won.
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    (Original post by BolloTheGorilla)
    He won it 7 consecutive times however (1999-2005).
    I am even more impressed.

    The reason i rate the golf majors highly is because like the tour de france every score/time you make goes towards the overall result. In all sports like that you rarely see someone come out and dominate which is why it is so special when it does happen.
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    (Original post by Mr Bee)
    I was thinking that only just the other day. I have never seen a black cyclist on the TDF, or even the Olympics.


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    I wonder why that is? It's not as if black people aren't good at using their legs in sports My only explanation is the need for expensive specialist equipment (a high end racing bike) and cycling being a "closed club" of sorts ( not really made accessible to the masses via school PE etc) From my own experience I just used to ride around on my own untill I overtook this guy on Bounds Green Road. Then came the most ridiculous coincidence ever. 4 things needed to happen 1) the man I overtook runs into my mum later in the week 2) they for some reason decided to have a conversation 3) He for some reason mentions that one time he was overtaken by a cyclist the other week 4) My mum somehow works out that it was me. All this happened and i got in contact with him who turned out to know a cycle club. Anyway I joined this club; I live in a London borough called Haringey which is pretty weird in that half of it is really posh and rich (Highgate/Muswell Hill) and the other half is really poor and **** (Tottenham/Wood Green) Anyway at this club which was the club for the entire borough all the members were white, rich and from the good half of the borough. I say they were rich because a) to live in Highgate you gotta be rich no ifs or buts b) they were like 16/17 and all had the latest racing bikes with satnav attached. anyway I was young and didnt feel like I fit in so I left. a couple years later i managed to get a good racer with my student loan and the Olympics have inspired me to rejoin.
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    (Original post by Podcaster)
    I wonder why that is? It's not as if black people aren't good at using their legs in sports My only explanation is the need for expensive specialist equipment (a high end racing bike) and cycling being a "closed club" of sorts ( not really made accessible to the masses via school PE etc) From my own experience I just used to ride around on my own untill I overtook this guy on Bounds Green Road. Then came the most ridiculous coincidence ever. 4 things needed to happen 1) the man I overtook runs into my mum later in the week 2) they for some reason decided to have a conversation 3) He for some reason mentions that one time he was overtaken by a cyclist the other week 4) My mum somehow works out that it was me. All this happened and i got in contact with him who turned out to know a cycle club. Anyway I joined this club; I live in a London borough called Haringey which is pretty weird in that half of it is really posh and rich (Highgate/Muswell Hill) and the other half is really poor and **** (Tottenham/Wood Green) Anyway at this club which was the club for the entire borough all the members were white, rich and from the good half of the borough. I say they were rich because a) to live in Highgate you gotta be rich no ifs or buts b) they were like 16/17 and all had the latest racing bikes with satnav attached. anyway I was young and didnt feel like I fit in so I left. a couple years later i managed to get a good racer with my student loan and the Olympics have inspired me to rejoin.
    I would love to join a club, but I daren't, incase I get slaughtered, but when I can build up the courage to get Clip ins, I might!

    My mate said, winner gets prizes such as cash :P


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    (Original post by Mr Bee)
    I would love to join a club, but I daren't, incase I get slaughtered, but when I can build up the courage to get Clip ins, I might!

    My mate said, winner gets prizes such as cash :P


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    Damn do you have to wear those infernal clip ins? those things are death traps.
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    (Original post by Jack93o)
    Its simply a test of who's the fittest and strongest, whereas in game sport like tennis or football, its not just about raw power, theres the mental and tactical side. The tour de france lacks depth imo.
    This isn't a criticism aimed solely at you, but now the Olympics is on, people suddenly feel they understand every sport that comes up. Cycling is highly based on tactics, many would even blame Cavendish's entire loss on the wrong tactical decisions. I don't know why people take one look at a sport in the Olympics and then have figured out exactly how it works...

    Regarding your title, there is no 'greatest' sporting achievement.
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    (Original post by Gary Barlow)
    I like the tour de france. One of the few sporting events that goes so over the top in terms of its difficulty just to ensure that it can't be won by a fluke.

    I think Lance Armstrong's achievement of winning it 6 consecutive times is the best sporting achievement of all time, its just an impossible feat.

    Until i see someone pull of the Grand Slam in the golf majors i don't think anything will come close to sheer dominance of a sport.
    How can Armstrong have dominated the sport of cycling with no olympic medals, no other grand tours, no 1 day classic, i think only 1 world championship etc?

    Armstrong dominated one race in a full racing calendar by somehow securing the funds to assemble the best team and being able to focus on only one race while every other team had to race year round to feed their kids.
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    (Original post by Jack93o)
    Compared to other sports, the skill and tactics are nowhere near as deep and sophistiated. Theres a reason why cycling as well as running sports have a reputation with doping, and thats because raw power alone is almost solely the determining factor between winning and losing. How often have you seen drugs offences in football or tennis? Virtually zero because athletes in those sports know that being successful is a whole lot more than just being the fittest and strongest so its not worth even bothering going on the juice.

    and I don't think I said the tour de france isn't a great sporting acheivement :confused:, its just not the greatest
    The over-use of drugs doesn't prove that other sports are more technical than the Tour, it only proves that more fitness and power is needed in cycling than, to use your example, tennis.

    The Tour de France is a much more physically demanding undertaking than any tennis grand-slam, and as such many inadequate performers feel the need to enhance their capabilities to cope. The tennis players could be said to not need any extra power or fitness because their sport does not demand it.

    Also, surely the fact that Wiggins has done this completely without drugs in a drug-addled sport makes this achievement even greater. He has battled against the cheating and come out victorious, through fantastic team tactics, prestigious all-round ability, excellent teamwork and been the very first Englishman to do it.
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    (Original post by Slick Fosbury)
    How can Armstrong have dominated the sport of cycling with no olympic medals, no other grand tours, no 1 day classic, i think only 1 world championship etc?
    Because he won the tour de france 7 times in a row.
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    (Original post by Gary Barlow)
    Because he won the tour de france 7 times in a row.
    :lol:

    Wiggins is a better cyclist than Armstrong regardless of how many times he now wins the tour. As was Indurain.


    Armstrong, in my eyes, was simply the greatest marketter ever. He managed to convince US postal to bankroll his wins, he managed to convince the English speaking media that the TDF was the be all and end all of cycling and he also managed to turn it all into some huge personal battle.

    Was it ****. The cancer was as much of an obstacle to his career as some riders have had in leg breaks. From then on it was plain sailing as he assembled a super team around him.
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    (Original post by BolloTheGorilla)
    Totally agree with your point, in my opinion it is the most gruelling sporting contest in the world and Armstrong is a true living legend!
    He won it 7 consecutive times however (1999-2005).

    (Original post by Gary Barlow)
    I like the tour de france. One of the few sporting events that goes so over the top in terms of its difficulty just to ensure that it can't be won by a fluke.

    I think Lance Armstrong's achievement of winning it 6 consecutive times is the best sporting achievement of all time, its just an impossible feat.

    Until i see someone pull of the Grand Slam in the golf majors i don't think anything will come close to sheer dominance of a sport.
    Armstrong is a legend, I just hope he doesn't have his titles stripped, I'd be genuinely gutted if that happens

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/18655970
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    (Original post by BolloTheGorilla)
    It is certainly to be considered as one of the greatest achievements; to be able to ride at the speeds they consistently ride at, over three weeks with only two rest days, oh yeah and the small task of riding up mountains in the Pyrenees and the Alps, that takes some serious levels of fitness, stamina and determination.
    Pah. Try running 5000km across the whole of Europe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_Europe_Foot_Race

    Then we can talk about stamina and determination.
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    Wiggins will be sports personality if he wins time trial tomorrow
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    The greatest sporting accomplishment in my mind is the 100m world record.

    Every other sport could be missed. There are billions of people who will never ride a bike and find out their aptitude, even now billions can't swim, billions never kick a ball etc.

    However every ****er runs.

    If you were/are fast enough to run a 100m WR then you'll know it and probably train for it, and do it. The one exception is America where people chase NFL stardom instead.

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