[. . .]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...ism-takes-root

The different ways the media covered two cases of men grooming children for sex show how shockingly easy it is to demonise a whole community

[TheEssence]

Didn't even bother reading. Its just more apologism. This is not down to religion though, it's more a cultural thing. These men targeted their victims based on race and age, they would NOT do this to a woman from their own culture unless maybe they were back home.

People will slate me i don't care, but it's a kind of ethnic thing, not common but it does exist. This isn't in terms of only rape but sex in general. White women are usually seen as easier and used for short sexual flings/relationships whilst in the younger years. As they get older and settle down/become more mature they go for someone of their culture either from the uk of back home.

I'm waiting for the neg patrol or those lefties who are looking to make excuses , but its the cold hard truth, theres no research statistics for these , but many people of ethnicity that are honest to themselves will agree

i'm of ethnicity myself just to add

EDIT: i'm just saying whats on people's mind, i'm not one of these politically correct individuals that hide the ugly truth to avoid causing offence.

[NuckingFut]

(Original post by TheEssence)
Didn't even bother reading. Its just more apologism.

If you didn't even bother to read it, how can you ascertain that it is all apologism?

I think you'll be quite mistaken if you actually read it.

[TheEssence]

(Original post by NuckingFut)
If you didn't even bother to read it, how can you ascertain that it is all apologism?

I think you'll be quite mistaken if you actually read it.

through skim reading, i managed to see the words "asian" and "muslim" several times, i also did read the first paragraph in full

[B-Man.]

Before long, the wider public will believe the problem is endemic within that race/religion, and that anyone within that group who rebuts the claims is denying this basic truth.

Unfortunately that already seems to have happened. It seems you can convince people of anything by simply repeating it over and over again. The poster below is the perfect example of this. Didn't read the article, but knows that it is all apologism.

(Original post by TheEssence)
Didn't even bother reading.

Nice to see ignorance of a topic doesn't prevent you commenting on it

(Original post by Elipsis)
It's important to note that Asians account for 1/3 of all child grooming

Source?

(Original post by Darth Stewie)
There is a disproportional amount of people who belong to certain ethnicities being convicted of these crimes, listening to the dispatchers program on this issue highlighted the serious issue of how women are viewed in certain cultures.

If you read the article, you'd have seen that:The media gives Asian gangs far more media coverage than Whites gangs, which is problematic as it leads people to believe it's endemic.

However, a more important point is how we don't have the same discussion of cultural issues of the ethnic group when it's White criminals. 93% of the perpetrators of paedophilia in the UK are white whilst demographically constituting 87% of the UK population. This is rarely, if ever, discussed in the context of questioning how/why the depravity of 'White culture' encourages this behaviour, as is done with BME groups. This is why people claim the focus on the culture of BME groups in these cases are racist, as the media do not take the same approach to White criminality.

Source

[TheEssence]

(Original post by B-Man.)
Unfortunately that already seems to have happened. It seems you can convince people of anything by simply repeating it over and over again. The poster below is the perfect example of this. Didn't read the article, but knows that it is all apologism.



Nice to see ignorance of a topic doesn't prevent you commenting on it



I'm just going to ignore how stupid this post is.

ignoring yet you quote it? The truth is what is making things like this more prevalent is the fact that people REFUSE to acknowledge this problem exists. How can a probelm be tackled when people constantly make excuses for it, or refuse to do not address it. If the communities sit down together and try to tackle this way of thinking, things like this will be less common.

living with people of ethnicity in the cosmopolitan city that is london, all too often i hear the words "dirty white people" or "duirty white sluts" when people look to rationalise doing bad things to members of the white race,coming from asian africans, arabs, south americans etc.

[Darth Stewie]

so are all the various "Asian" community leaders who are telling us this is a cultural issue racist as well?

There is a disproportional amount of people who belong to certain ethnicities being convicted of these crimes, listening to the dispatchers program on this issue highlighted the serious issue of how women are viewed in certain cultures. The way the parents attempted to portray their children as victims as well is pretty typical of the view that if women are flaunting it so to speak they have some degree of blame, that kind of view is a problem especially when it is held by a community which keeps to itself because it leads to the type of thing we are seeing now. No one serious is saying that the disproportional amount of certain minorities being convicted of these crimes is because of their ethnicity.

Plus this is the Guardian, their "accuracy" is probably on par with the Daily Mail.

[Dirac Delta Function]

ok, most of them were white - statistically what you'd excpect given this is a 90% white country, but why is there yet again a big bearded religious looking Muslim?

It's simply remarkable how these loud mouth big bearded tossers can be screaming their nuts off about kufar and Islam then be engaged in the most repugnant behaviour. What utter low-lifes.

[IRSP044]

Great article by the Guardian.
The racists that try to exploit these cases are pathetic.

[anonstudent1]

(Original post by Elipsis)
It is news when we kindly let in Asians and they abuse our kindness by touching up our kids.

Abuse your kindness? Who do think you are??
Also ethnically Asian/non White people who were born here, have as much right to be here as white people.
(Yes foreign born criminals should be deported)

[Elipsis]

(Original post by B-Man.)
Unfortunately that already seems to have happened. It seems you can convince people of anything by simply repeating it over and over again. The poster below is the perfect example of this. Didn't read the article, but knows that it is all apologism.



Nice to see ignorance of a topic doesn't prevent you commenting on it



I'm just going to ignore how stupid this post is.



Source?

I assume you are going to now admit that it is a serious problem that the media were right to pick up on?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18004153

[Elipsis]

(Original post by anonstudent1)
Abuse your kindness? Who do think you are??
Also ethnically Asian/non White people who were born here, have as much right to be here as white people.
(Yes foreign born criminals should be deported)

Leave the culture and religion that ruined your country and made you come here in the first place behind then, don't pass it onto your children. "Asians have just as much right to abuse children as anyone". Ever the equal opportunist aren't you?

[. . .]

(Original post by Dirac Delta Function)
ok, most of them were white - statistically what you'd excpect given this is a 90% white country, but why is there yet again a big bearded religious looking Muslim?

It's simply remarkable how these loud mouth big bearded tossers can be screaming their nuts off about kufar and Islam then be engaged in the most repugnant behaviour. What utter low-lifes.

You do know big beard =/= Religious. Don't you?

[B-Man.]

(Original post by Elipsis)
I assume you are going to now admit that it is a serious problem that the media were right to pick up on?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18004153

From your source:

But the report stresses national conclusions about ethnicity cannot be drawn from the data available because it relies on limited nationwide information, with much of the data coming from a limited number of areas.

[. . .]

(Original post by Elipsis)
Leave the culture and religion that ruined your country and made you come here in the first place behind then, don't pass it onto your children. "Asians have just as much right to abuse children as anyone". Ever the equal opportunist aren't you?

Oh yeah because that is what goes on in an immigrants household. They get taught how to rape children.

[anonstudent1]

(Original post by Elipsis)
Leave the culture and religion that ruined your country and made you come here in the first place behind then, don't pass it onto your children. "Asians have just as much right to abuse children as anyone". Ever the equal opportunist aren't you?

Are you an idiot? Do you not know how to use quotes? Only quote what I have said.
And no, because no one has a right to abuse kids. Do Asians born here, have just as much right to be here as anyone else and deserve to be treated the same as everyone else? Yes.
And yes people clinging to backwards culture and segregating themselves is not good. I wasn't arguing that.

[Dirac Delta Function]

(Original post by . . .)
You do know big beard =/= Religious. Don't you?

yes, but it doesn't stop them acting like they are.

That style of beard is highly correlated with strong Islamic leanings, don't try to pretend otherwise.

[. . .]

(Original post by Dirac Delta Function)
yes, but it doesn't stop them acting like they are.

That style of beard is highly correlated with strong Islamic leanings, don't try to pretend otherwise.

Acting religious =/= Religious.

No it's not.

[zaliack]

(Original post by Elipsis)
I assume you are going to now admit that it is a serious problem that the media were right to pick up on?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18004153

Did you know that 21% of girls, and 11% of boys have been sexually abused? (Cawson, Wattam, Brooker and Kelly, 2000 (NSPCC))

So 16% of the population has been sexually abused.

A study in Canada suggests that convicted sex offenders have, on average, 336 victims each. (Abel, Mittleman and Becker, 1985)

So 60,000,000*.16/336, and that means there is roughly 28,000 sex offenders in the UK.

Yet only 346 offenders are Asian. The truth is, we don't know if it is a problem, and we never will. So let's just forget about trying to make this a race thing, and just focus on stopping it completely.

[Dirac Delta Function]

(Original post by . . .)
Acting religious =/= Religious.

No it's not.

it is, it's a sunnah to keep the hair on the top lip light and the beard at least a fist length. Few irreligious people have such beards.