[QuantumSuicide]

Example: The Qur'an only talks about humans in terms of intelligent life in the universe. The Qur'an is written to guid people to live a near-to-perfect life. Now, the Milky Way galaxy has millions of habitable planets which could hold life. The Milky way is one galaxy out of billions.

If there is life out there which there most probably is, why doesn't the Qur'an teach them how to live nor mention anything about them?

[tazarooni89]

(Original post by QuantumSuicide)
Example: The Qur'an only talks about humans in terms of intelligent life in the universe. The Qur'an is written to guid people to live a near-to-perfect life. Now, the Milky Way galaxy has millions of habitable planets which could hold life. The Milky way is one galaxy out of billions.

If there is life out there which there most probably is, why doesn't the Qur'an teach them how to live nor mention anything about them?

Why would the Qur'an teach them how to live when they are most probably never going to read it (if they exist at all)?

[Design_Me_A_Tom]

The qu'ran was written by humans many many years ago. At that time, humans knew nothing about the galaxy and no facts or figures so they has to keep what was written very vague.


This was posted from The Student Room's iPhone/iPad App

[PrismaticCore]

(Original post by QuantumSuicide)
Example: The Qur'an only talks about humans in terms of intelligent life in the universe. The Qur'an is written to guid people to live a near-to-perfect life. Now, the Milky Way galaxy has millions of habitable planets which could hold life. The Milky way is one galaxy out of billions.

If there is life out there which there most probably is, why doesn't the Qur'an teach them how to live nor mention anything about them?

Oh my god.
I was expecting something actually relevant which actually disproves all three religions, but no. You're just nit-picking at a really irrelevant point.

[Design_Me_A_Tom]

(Original post by PrismaticCore)
Oh my god.
I was expecting something actually relevant which actually disproves all three religions, but no. You're just nit-picking at a really irrelevant point.

Its not an irrelevant point. If the Bible and Qu'ran are meant to be the word of God, then why are they such uninformative books? A primary school science textbook tells you more detailed information about humans, the world and the universe than the Bible and Qu'ran.

[Pinkhead]

I'm not a muslim, but I assume that Allah could easily make different scriptures for different kinds of life on other planets. Perhaps the qu'ran is made with humans in mind, and any other forms of intelligent life will have their own version.
Why would we need to know how some intelligent life on a planet such as Kepler-22b should go about living? It would not affect us.

[Rhadamanthus]

(Original post by Design_Me_A_Tom)
The qu'ran was written by humans over 2000 years ago. At that time, humans knew nothing about the galaxy and no facts or figures so they has to keep what was written very vague.

The Quran was written over 2000 years ago? Or are you just putting across a general 'religious texts are old therefore are invalid' theme?

[Cephalus]

How do you know that God didn't send prophets to every single habitable planet?

[Politricks]

(Original post by Design_Me_A_Tom)
The qu'ran was written by humans over 2000 years ago

The 7th century was over 2000 years ago?

[Honeyx]

Well it says jinns exist...we can't see them but they were also created as is believed humans were to worship God, with the free will to live their lives how they choose...

similar to alien concept? Could be occupying other planets? I dont know...

[Agenda Suicide]

When people say why would they need to know, why would God not make people aware?

He boasts about making the universe and everything in it, the fish, trees, sun, day, night, stars.

So why would he leave out alien life forms?

[Cephalus]

(Original post by Agenda Suicide)
When people say why would they need to know, why would God not make people aware?

He boasts about making the universe and everything in it, the fish, trees, sun, day, night, stars.

So why would he leave out alien life forms?

Good point. Especially if they were more advanced than us

[+ polarity -]

(Original post by Design_Me_A_Tom)
Its not an irrelevant point. If the Bible and Qu'ran are meant to be the word of God, then why are they such uninformative books? A primary school science textbook tells you more detailed information about humans, the world and the universe than the Bible and Qu'ran.

Why is that detailed information necessary, if the book in question is supposed to reveal God to people?

[tazarooni89]

Also, the Qur'an does mention other intelligent, sentient creatures besides humans, collectively calling them all "Jinn" - the literal meaning of which is "unseen, hidden, concealed", in reference to the fact that we have not ever seen or discovered them.

[Perseveranze]

(Original post by QuantumSuicide)
Example: The Qur'an only talks about humans in terms of intelligent life in the universe. The Qur'an is written to guid people to live a near-to-perfect life. Now, the Milky Way galaxy has millions of habitable planets which could hold life. The Milky way is one galaxy out of billions.

If there is life out there which there most probably is, why doesn't the Qur'an teach them how to live nor mention anything about them?

Actually;

---

Allah it is who hath created seven heavens, and of the earth the like thereof. The commandment cometh down among them slowly, that ye may know that Allah is Able to do all things, and that Allah surroundeth all things in knowledge. [Quran 65:12]

Assuredly the creation of the heavens and the earth is greater than the creation of mankind; but most of mankind know not. [Quran 40:57]

And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the living creatures that He has scattered through them: and He has power to gather them together when He wills. [Quran 42:49]

“And He has created what you do not know”. [Surah An-Naml aayah 8]

We will show them Our Signs in the universe, and in their ownselves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Quran) is the truth. Is it not sufficient in regard to your Lord that He is a Witness over all things? [Quran 41:53]


''The case of Ibn-e-Abbas is interesting. He was one of the Companions of the Prophet (pbuh). The Prophet (pbuh) had prayed to God specially to endow Ibn-e-Abbas(73) with knowledge of the Quran,and he became one of the great scholars of the Quran. Maulana Maududi writing in his Tafhim-ul-Quran, tells us that,"Ibn-e-Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him)...believed with confidence that there are many more earth-like bodies in the heavens. ...He not only thought that such earths are inhabited by intelligent beings but also that their people are exactly like the inhabitants on the Earth.He even went so far as to say that they may have a Prophet like Muhammad (pbuh),and had a Adam,like our Adam,a Noah,like our Noah,an Ibrahim like our Ibrahim,and a Jesus like our Jesus (pbut)." (74) The knowledge of the existence of aliens and that they are mentioned in the Quran, has been present among Muslims from the earliest days of Islam!''

References:

73.Ibn-e-Abbas- a short biographical note
74.Maududi,Abul Ala.Tahfhim-ul-Quran.


Imam Ghazali

Bashir-ud-Din Mahmood writes,"The idea that there is life elsewhere in the universe also, was derived from the Prophet of Allah (pbuh) when he told Muslims, "When you sit down in the prayer for the Attahiyat and say: "Peace be upon us,and the righteous servants of Allah" you actually send peace on all the righteous people living on the Earth and in the heavens. "This clearly implies that all type of people, good and bad live in the other worlds as they live on our Earth." (71) He also writes,with reference to the Rasial Imam Ghazali,"According to Imam Muhammad Ghazali (11th Century), people in some of these planetary worlds have learnt to travel and communicate with each other." (72)

References:

71.Ref:Mahmood,Bashir-ud-din.Doomsday and Life After Death.Chapter 18,
71.Sub-heading:Life in Other Worlds.
72.Ref:Mahmood,Bashir-ud-din.Doomsday and Life After Death.Chapter 18,

---

and

---

In Imaam Ash-Shawkaanee’s tafseer of this aayah, we find a statement of Mujaahid in which he says:
قال مجاهد: يدخل في هذا الملائكة، والناس، وقد قال تعالى: {وَيَخْلُقُ مَا لاَ تَعْلَمُونَ} (النمل: 8)

“entering in this aayah are the angels and mankind. and Allah, the Most Hight says : “And He has created what you do not know”. [See also Imam Ibn 'Atiyyah's (d. 546 A.H.) tafsir تفسير المحرر الوجيز في تفسير الكتاب العزيز . He also mentions the possibility of creatures within the clouds (sahaab).] Ibn Juzayy, the Granadian jurist and exegete states in his tafsir,


“…And as for the meaning of beasts in the ‘heavens’ then it is said it means the angels, and it is also said that there are animals that we do not know of…” ((See his tafsir تفسير التسهيل لعلوم التنزيل )) This opinion is one of the three opinions mentioned by Imam Fakhr Ar-Razi in his tafsir as well.

http://www.seekingilm.com/archives/460

---

Also, this is an interesting read - http://www.deoband.org/2010/08/hadit...E2%80%98abbas/

Anyways, there's no direct stance on the matter. Whether you want to believe in life outside earth or not is up to you really.

To say "God has forgot" is completly untrue and based on the fact of how little you know about Qur'an and hadiths. It's a matter of muttashaabih, and because it doesn't really concern us or help us become "better Muslims", no Scholar has really bothered to delve into the matter much.

[ExMuslim]

The Qu'ran doesn't mention "intelligent life" because it probably knows there's no point in trying to fool them!

[QuantumSuicide]

(Original post by tazarooni89)
Also, the Qur'an does mention other intelligent, sentient creatures besides humans, collectively calling them all "Jinn" - the literal meaning of which is "unseen, hidden, concealed", in reference to the fact that we have not ever seen or discovered them.

Is it not mentioned that the jinn are living on the earth? That's how they "possess" people... The Qur'an also says that Allah has created three different creatures besides all the animals on earth. These are: angels, jinns and humans. I don't believe that the only things out there are jinn...

[TheGrinningSkull]

(Original post by QuantumSuicide)
Is it not mentioned that the jinn are living on the earth? That's how they "possess" people... The Qur'an also says that Allah has created three different creatures besides all the animals on earth. These are: angels, jinns and humans. I don't believe that the only things out there are jinn...

THere are many things that we don't know, we can't confine what we know to what we currently know.

[AverageExcellence]

Maybe the rules of the qu'ran and bible aren't applicable or relevant to aliens. If if they gave the qu'ran say in its entirety then it would sound more bizarre and non sensicle than scientology.

[tazarooni89]

(Original post by QuantumSuicide)
Is it not mentioned that the jinn are living on the earth? That's how they "possess" people... The Qur'an also says that Allah has created three different creatures besides all the animals on earth. These are: angels, jinns and humans. I don't believe that the only things out there are jinn...

As I said, "jinn" is a term used simply to refer to life that we don't see or come across - it literally means "hidden/concealed". Yes, the Qur'an says there are jinn on earth - but strictly speaking any creature living on another planet which we haven't discovered can also be called "jinn" as well, even if they're a completely different type of creature.

Although the modern usage of the word "jinn" means some kind of ghostly mythological creature, this is very different to it's previous usage, and it's root meaning. "Jinn" was not always the name of a creature like "dog" or "cat", it used to be a description of a creature - namely "those that are hidden from you". So in mentioning the existence of "Jinn" in general, the Qur'an may be understood to simply tell us "other life forms exist, besides those that you can see around you".
And then it gets more specific in certain cases - some jinn live on earth, some might seek to influence people's behaviour, and Satan himself is a jinn as well, according to the Qur'an.