B481 - Core Subjects Bill 2012
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Re: B481 - Core Subjects Bill 2012
Could we have a link to what's currently in place? It all seems reasonable - on a quick skim through I only really take issue with not including Mandarin etc as a possible compulsory MFL in primary school like it is in secondary school, and I still think the decision to have French and German ranked so highly is more political than practical
- though I can't say if it's reasonable-er than what's currently in place.
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Re: B481 - Core Subjects Bill 2012
No music at key stage 4, no art, nothing creative. Presumably no Screaming Lord Sutch nor the works of Monty Python in History? No return to O levels as advocated in RL by Michael Gove? So we'll all be as culturally original as Simon Cowell.
Just bring in the requirement for MFLs so we can all upset the French by not being stereotypical and only speaking English when abroad. -
Re: B481 - Core Subjects Bill 2012Oh really? these people must be stupid as they don't realise what advantages knowing a second language can bring.(Original post by Smack)
No, a foreign language is a waste of time for many. -
Re: B481 - Core Subjects Bill 2012As I find out every time I holiday in France.(Original post by tehFrance)
Oh really? these people must be stupid as they don't realise what advantages knowing a second language can bring. -
Re: B481 - Core Subjects Bill 2012It relates to the National Curriculum as it is in force in England, Wales and Northern Ireland. KS1 is for those entering primary school from age 5 - 7. KS2 related to those aged 8-11; KS3 those from 11-14; KS4 (or GCSE) those 14-16; and KS5 (or A Level) those 16-18. This bill, as you rightly hint at, pays absolutely no attention to the education system as it currently exists in Scotland and once again demonstrates that the Conservatives have no respect for Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland. Much like their shocking budget.(Original post by davidmarsh01)
What's KS1-4?
Edit: Sorry, meant to add my comments. Additional maths / statistics is a waste of time and irrelevant to most people. This bill, ironically, restricts the choices people can make in their own education and for little real benefit. It is strikingly authoritarian from a party which claims to be a guardian of liberty and individual freedom. The only subjects that need be compulsory at GCSE are English, Maths and Science. Let people choose after that and let them guide their own destiny in life. Enough of a Conservative authoritarianism.Last edited by obi_adorno_kenobi; 24-07-2012 at 21:29. -
Re: B481 - Core Subjects Bill 2012Key Stage 1 is up to 7(Original post by davidmarsh01)
What's KS1-4?
Key Stage 2 goes up to 11
Key Stage 3 is up to 14,
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Re: B481 - Core Subjects Bill 2012Ah cool, thanks - I've heard of KS's mostly from this site, but I've never actually known what levels/ages they relate to. Without even looking at the content, this automatically makes 4(2)(1), the extent, pretty laughable.(Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
It relates to the National Curriculum as it is in force in England, Wales and Northern Ireland. KS1 is for those entering primary school from age 5 - 7. KS2 related to those aged 8-11; KS3 those from 11-14; KS4 (or GCSE) those 14-16; and KS5 (or A Level) those 16-18. This bill, as you rightly hint at, pays absolutely no attention to the education system as it currently exists in Scotland and once again demonstrates that the Conservatives have no respect for Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland. Much like their shocking budget. -
Re: B481 - Core Subjects Bill 2012And what advantages are these?(Original post by tehFrance)
Oh really? these people must be stupid as they don't realise what advantages knowing a second language can bring. -
Re: B481 - Core Subjects Bill 2012Yes it helps to know French when going to France... we are Italy, we do not shamefully accept English as the language of tourism.(Original post by barnetlad)
As I find out every time I holiday in France.
I have respect for the Italians at how good they are at English but I think they should not bend over and speak English instead they should force the English (and others) to speak Italian like we do
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Re: B481 - Core Subjects Bill 2012Are you serious? other than learning about other cultures and being able to meet a multitude of people from around the world with the other languages you know, there are increased job prospects with better pay and if you learn from an early age, it increases intellectual growth, enriches mental development and makes you more flexible mentally.(Original post by Smack)
And what advantages are these?
I seriously hope you are having a laugh otherwise I question the the education system in this country even more than I ever had before or is it your social class I should question?
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Re: B481 - Core Subjects Bill 2012When I last went to Paris they quite happily spoke English. I did open with a "parley voo anglay" though.(Original post by tehFrance)
Yes it helps to know French when going to France... we are Italy, we do not shamefully accept English as the language of tourism.
I have respect for the Italians at how good they are at English but I think they should not bend over and speak English instead they should force the English (and others) to speak Italian like we do
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Re: B481 - Core Subjects Bill 2012You must have only gone to the main tourist sights then.(Original post by Hopple)
When I last went to Paris they quite happily spoke English. I did open with a "parley voo anglay" though.
- though I can't say if it's reasonable-er than what's currently in place.