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Islam would be less problematic if more Muslims were like mainline protestantsI like mainline protestants. Most people in the West go to a nice liberal protestant church every Sunday, but nobody including the minister actually believe all that crazy stuff in the bible to be taken as literal truth, and no one acts especially religious after the service ends. Congregants just sing a few hymns and shout a few "hallelujahs" and then effortlessly meld back into the secular world. But Muslims, unfortunately take their religion to be a "way of life" that encompasses all aspects of life: moral, spiritual, social, political, economical, intellectual, etc. This clash between their 7th century ideology and the ways of the 21st century is what causes a lot of problems in the world today.
Muslims, why can't you be more like mainline protestants? Just go to the mosque on Friday, celebrate your eids and shout your allah hu akbars there but when you leave just try to act normal like everybody else.Last edited by ExMuslim; 25-07-2012 at 00:16. -
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Re: Islam would be less problematic if more Muslims were like mainline protestantsYou should be addressing this to Salafis/Wahabbis, not most muslims who do act normal like everybody else..(Original post by ExMuslim)
Muslims, why can't you be more like mainline protestants? Just go to the mosque on Friday, celebrate your eids and shout your allah hu akbars there but when you leave just try to act normal like everybody else.
Though I agree with the girl above me, define normal.Last edited by Dhaal_Chawal; 25-07-2012 at 00:27. -
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Re: Islam would be less problematic if more Muslims were like mainline protestantsI suppose you are right that the Wahabis/Salafis are much more problematic than any other group of Muslims. Since they are funded by money from the Gulf they are slowly overtaking other more tolerable versions of Islam, like sufism, in most parts of the world.(Original post by Dhaal_Chawal)
You should be addressing this to Salafis/Wahabbis, not normal muslims who do act normal like everybody else.. -
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Re: Islam would be less problematic if more Muslims were like mainline protestantsit doesnt work like that, we are not PART TIME muslims,
praying 5 times a day
reading the Holy Book
Praying for people etc
listening to motivating talks
you know what il let the rest of the student room tell ya (well ISOC anyway) -
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Re: Islam would be less problematic if more Muslims were like mainline protestantswrong.(Original post by ExMuslim)
I like mainline protestants. Most people in the West go to a nice liberal protestant church every Sunday, but nobody including the minister actually believe all that crazy stuff in the bible to be taken as literal truth, and no one acts especially religious after the service ends. Congregants just sing a few hymns and shout a few "hallelujahs" and then effortlessly meld back into the secular world. But Muslims, unfortunately take their religion to be a "way of life" that encompasses all aspects of life: moral, spiritual, social, political, economical, intellectual, etc. This clash between their 7th century ideology and the ways of the 21st century is what causes a lot of problems in the world today.
Muslims, why can't you be more like mainline protestants? Just go to the mosque on Friday, celebrate your eids and shout your allah hu akbars there but when you leave just try to act normal like everybody else. -
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Re: Islam would be less problematic if more Muslims were like mainline protestantsNot really. In what countries to significant numbers of people attend mainline protestant churches? In Britain? Nope, a very small % of people attend church on a Sunday, and recently the numbers of churchgoing Catholics overtook churchgoing Anglicans. Not in America - as this article explains, while Catholicism is growing in the US and evangelical protestantism is stable, mainline protestantism (i.e. Episcopalian - Anglican) is in massive decline. Scandinavia? Nope, these countries are the most secular and atheistic in the world. Where exactly are you talking about?(Original post by ExMuslim)
I like mainline protestants. Most people in the West go to a nice liberal protestant church every Sunday, but nobody including the minister actually believe all that crazy stuff in the bible to be taken as literal truth, and no one acts especially religious after the service ends. -
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Re: Islam would be less problematic if more Muslims were like mainline protestants"Muslims, why can't you be more like mainline protestants? Just go to the mosque on Friday, celebrate your eids and shout your allah hu akbars there but when you leave just try to act normal like everybody else."
Ermm... maybe some of do? -
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Re: Islam would be less problematic if more Muslims were like mainline protestantsI know "some" do, that's why the title says there would be less problems if "more" Muslims were like that.(Original post by alanr)
"Muslims, why can't you be more like mainline protestants? Just go to the mosque on Friday, celebrate your eids and shout your allah hu akbars there but when you leave just try to act normal like everybody else."
Ermm... maybe some of do? -
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Re: Islam would be less problematic if more Muslims were like mainline protestantsDon't dissect my words to argue about a topic irrelevant to the one I'm discussing. Regardless, most church going people and most believers in the West don't take all this religious stuff too serious, now do they? When was the last time someone was stoned to death for betraying yaweh their God in the Western world?(Original post by Super Cicero)
Not really. In what countries to significant numbers of people attend mainline protestant churches? In Britain? Nope, a very small % of people attend church on a Sunday, and recently the numbers of churchgoing Catholics overtook churchgoing Anglicans. Not in America - as this article explains, while Catholicism is growing in the US and evangelical protestantism is stable, mainline protestantism (i.e. Episcopalian - Anglican) is in massive decline. Scandinavia? Nope, these countries are the most secular and atheistic in the world. Where exactly are you talking about? -
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Re: Islam would be less problematic if more Muslims were like mainline protestantsGive it some time. The middle east never really recovered from the Mongolian invasion.(Original post by ExMuslim)
I know "some" do, that's why the title says there would be less problems if "more" Muslims were like that. -
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Re: Islam would be less problematic if more Muslims were like mainline protestantsIt's not just the haters, it's everybody who doesn't believe in Islam and then some lol(Original post by toastysandwich)
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Re: Islam would be less problematic if more Muslims were like mainline protestantsVery charming religion you have there, no?(Original post by toastysandwich)
Haters of Islam go to hell and abide there in forever. Just saying.
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Re: Islam would be less problematic if more Muslims were like mainline protestantsThere are plenty of Jews and Sikhs who make their religion a way of life. I would argue, actually, that Sikhs are more steadfast in their religion than Muslims are in theirs, on average.(Original post by ExMuslim)
I like mainline protestants. Most people in the West go to a nice liberal protestant church every Sunday, but nobody including the minister actually believe all that crazy stuff in the bible to be taken as literal truth, and no one acts especially religious after the service ends. Congregants just sing a few hymns and shout a few "hallelujahs" and then effortlessly meld back into the secular world. But Muslims, unfortunately take their religion to be a "way of life" that encompasses all aspects of life: moral, spiritual, social, political, economical, intellectual, etc. This clash between their 7th century ideology and the ways of the 21st century is what causes a lot of problems in the world today.
Muslims, why can't you be more like mainline protestants? Just go to the mosque on Friday, celebrate your eids and shout your allah hu akbars there but when you leave just try to act normal like everybody else.
Judaism is much older than Islam and Sikhism is younger, but neither of these religions proselytise, so it's not even about being 7th century. They focus on the person and the respective community. Islam, on the other hand is a "we're gonna conquer you one way or another" religion and there are plenty of other aspects to it which make it such a bad fit for the 21st century (and, no doubt, the 22nd, 23rd, ....) in a way that non-proselytic religions are not.
If you want to see people who are both steadfast in their religion (more so than Muslims) and also peaceful, look at Jains. They are an outstanding example of a community that defines itself in terms of religion (much older than Islam, I believe), yet they are not only peaceful but also very successful.
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Re: Islam would be less problematic if more Muslims were like mainline protestantsConsidering you're no longer Muslim, you sure do spend a lot of time starting threads about Islam and posting in Islam related Go and get on with your life.(Original post by ExMuslim)
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