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UKIP should have a youth committee.If other parties do, why not UKIP? It annoys me the fact that they are branded racists. They do have a FEW similar aims to the BNP but go aboutnot completely differently, and don't involve racism. I know I would join the committee.
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Re: UKIP should have a youth committee.Interesting point, but conservatives aren't exactly all modern, but they have a youth group. Some of the aims that UKIP have could heavily benefit the next generation.(Original post by WillowLeaves)
Maybe because they present themselves as a bunch of mossy old guys in tweed jackets?
Yes, but when do you completely agree with every aim that a party has? Almost never. The fact that as I said, a lot of the aims could affect younger people, a committee should be set up which could maybe even ensure them a seat when these people get older and are able to vote.(Original post by Tim99)
Had a quick look at their site, not too sure. I don't agree with their ban on the smoking law, as a non smoker I think its great; as I can now enjoy pubs and clubs
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Re: UKIP should have a youth committee.See UKIP's "Young Independence" here. There's also a link to the site on the home page of the main UKIP site. (Above the party logo on the right.)(Original post by LordFishlock)
If other parties do, why not UKIP? It annoys me the fact that they are branded racists. They do have a FEW similar aims to the BNP but go aboutnot completely differently, and don't involve racism. I know I would join the committee.
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Re: UKIP should have a youth committee.I know it's nothing to do with whether or not they should set up a youth committee but being against the reversal of the smoking ban is quite a major policy to be against, as it is easy to change when in government and has a direct and instant impact on everyone.(Original post by LordFishlock)
Yes, but when do you completely agree with every aim that a party has? Almost never. -
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Re: UKIP should have a youth committee.Yes but the Young Independence is for u35s.(Original post by Tamora)
See UKIP's "Young Independence" here. There's also a link to the site on the home page of the main UKIP site. (Above the party logo on the right.)
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Re: UKIP should have a youth committee.I really don't see the point, I see it as tainting young minds(Original post by LordFishlock)
Yes, but when do you completely agree with every aim that a party has? Almost never. The fact that as I said, a lot of the aims could affect younger people, a committee should be set up which could maybe even ensure them a seat when these people get older and are able to vote.
think of it this way UKIP say to you drum up some people, they somehow go along with it then they get convinced you're right so come the age of voting they just vote for your party.
Get rig of ALL the youth committees, I say. You are right in the fact that I wouldn't agree with every item they put forward, but as the smoking ban directly affects me I would NEVER vote for 'em.
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Re: UKIP should have a youth committee.I don't see why people are getting so hyped up about the smoking ban. Along with alcohol pricing in supermarkets, its the main reason why a dozen pubs are closing down every week in this country.. and I personally think that's pretty sad.
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Re: UKIP should have a youth committee.Can't stand smoke, if people want to smoke then go ahead; I do not like to so when I go to a pub/club I don't want to leave with pains in my chest and clothes that stink of smoke. So I do feel pretty strong about it, yeah.(Original post by Bulbasaur)
I don't see why people are getting so hyped up about the smoking ban. Along with alcohol pricing in supermarkets, its the main reason why a dozen pubs are closing down every week in this country.. and I personally think that's pretty sad. -
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Re: UKIP should have a youth committee.Nobody is saying we'd return to what it was, but I don't see the problem with having a smoking room or area or whatever if it's cut off from the rest. It's a compromise between both sides if anything.(Original post by Tim99)
Can't stand smoke, if people want to smoke then go ahead; I do not like to so when I go to a pub/club I don't want to leave with pains in my chest and clothes that stink of smoke. So I do feel pretty strong about it, yeah. -
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Re: UKIP should have a youth committee.Smoking room, hmm maybe. Area no no.(Original post by Bulbasaur)
Nobody is saying we'd return to what it was, but I don't see the problem with having a smoking room or area or whatever if it's cut off from the rest. It's a compromise between both sides if anything. -
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Re: UKIP should have a youth committee.Probably because despite these figures always banded around decrying the hundreds of pubs closing every second, I still see dozens of pubs everywhere I go. Just on my way to school I walk past 4 or 5 of them...(Original post by Bulbasaur)
I don't see why people are getting so hyped up about the smoking ban. Along with alcohol pricing in supermarkets, its the main reason why a dozen pubs are closing down every week in this country.. and I personally think that's pretty sad.
Not that I have a huge deal of sympathy for them anyway - I don't personally see why pubs should be exempt from public health rules just because they are incapable of making a profit - plenty of other pubs seemingly cope perfectly fine.
Building smoking rooms for people kinda goes against the whole "stop smoking" policy does it not?(Original post by Bulbasaur)
Nobody is saying we'd return to what it was, but I don't see the problem with having a smoking room or area or whatever if it's cut off from the rest. It's a compromise between both sides if anything.Last edited by callum9999; 26-07-2012 at 02:37. -
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Re: UKIP should have a youth committee.Well if it were cut off it wouldn't make a difference.(Original post by Tim99)
Smoking room, hmm maybe. Area no no.
Well, anecdotes aren't particularly helpful in this sort of scenario.... I know three pubs at least just off the top my head in my local area have gone in recent years.(Original post by callum9999)
Probably because despite these figures always banded around decrying the hundreds of pubs closing every second, I still see dozens of pubs everywhere I go. Just on my way to school I walk past 4 or 5 of them...
Not that I have a huge deal of sympathy for them anyway - I don't personally see why pubs should be exempt from public health rules just because they are incapable of making a profit - plenty of other pubs seemingly cope perfectly fine.
We wouldn't know how well they're coping. But in a way its unsurprising that some pubs are still doing well in areas where others have been shut down. The regulars at the pubs that were shut down will obviously find somewhere new and the ones still standing would obviously benefit.
For a lot of Brits it's a part of life, even a way of life. Not particularly tolerant to be unsympathetic to these people.
Perhaps, not that I would care personally. Besides, it's this sort of regulation that is meaningless if it isn't to the detriment to those who wish to avoid it. We shouldn't be encouraging smoking but we shouldn't alienate smokers either.Building smoking rooms for people kinda goes against the whole "stop smoking" policy does it not?Last edited by Bulbasaur; 26-07-2012 at 02:44. -
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Re: UKIP should have a youth committee.It's not (just) an anecdote, there are still thousands of pubs around and there is close to zero danger of your area being without one for the vast majority of people.(Original post by Bulbasaur)
Well if it were cut off it wouldn't make a difference.
Well, anecdotes aren't particularly helpful in this sort of scenario.... I know three pubs at least just off the top my head in my local area have gone in recent years.
We wouldn't know how well they're coping. But in a way its unsurprising that some pubs are still doing well in areas where others have been shut down. The regulars at the pubs that were shut down will obviously find somewhere new and the ones still standing would obviously benefit.
For a lot of Brits it's a part of life, even a way of life. Not particularly tolerant to be unsympathetic to these people.
Rubbish. I could equally turn that around and say heroin is a way of life for heroin addicts, and it's not "tolerant" to be "unsympathetic" towards their desire to inject themselves in pubs. Or are you saying minorities don't count, we only need to be tolerant to the majorities! (And yes I know, heroin is different to tobacco...) -
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Re: UKIP should have a youth committee.Nothing wrong with a good tweed jacket.(Original post by WillowLeaves)
Maybe because they present themselves as a bunch of mossy old guys in tweed jackets?
I don't really remember any of them wearing tweed anyway.Last edited by DorianGrayism; 26-07-2012 at 04:43. -
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Me either ;')(Original post by DorianGrayism)
Nothing wrong with a good tweed jacket.
I don't really remember any of them wearing tweed anyway.
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Re: UKIP should have a youth committee.You're hard to please.(Original post by LordFishlock)
Yes but the Young Independence is for u35s.
I think it would probably be difficult for a young and still comparatively small party like UKIP to provide a group exclusively for a younger age group. This will come as the party grows. -
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Yeah I agree :') I know haha :-p sorry!!!(Original post by Tamora)
You're hard to please.
I think it would probably be difficult for a young and still comparatively small party like UKIP to provide a group exclusively for a younger age group. This will come as the party grows.
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Re: UKIP should have a youth committee.Conservative Future is for under 30's and i am pretty sure that Labour and Liberal Youth will be about the same so Ukip is not that different and 35 probably reflects that they have a harder time getting committed members rather than the mainstream parties.(Original post by Tamora)
You're hard to please.
I think it would probably be difficult for a young and still comparatively small party like UKIP to provide a group exclusively for a younger age group. This will come as the party grows.
