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  1. ExMuslim's Avatar
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    Whoops! They meant "young woman" and not "virgin"
    According to Tim Callahan in his book Bible Prophecy: Failure or Fulfillment? (cf. pp. 115-16), the Hebrew word almah, "meaning a young woman of marriageable age, was translated into Greek in the Septuagint as parthenos or 'virgin.' Had the Hebrew meant to say virgin it would have used bethulah, which means specifically a virgin."
    Looks like the gospel writers misunderstood the prophets of old and claimed that Mary was a "virgin" instead of simply a "young woman", and Muhammad inherited the misunderstanding into Islam when he plagiarized earlier Christian teachings. What is your response to this, Christians/Muslims?

    Also, Christians, how could Mary have been a virgin when the gospels clearly refer to Jesus having siblings?
  2. pokemons's Avatar
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    Re: Whoops! They meant "young woman" and not "virgin"
    "Virgin" refers to the Virgin Mind Pure and uncorrupted
  3. NuckingFut's Avatar
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    Re: Whoops! They meant "young woman" and not "virgin"
    Oh its you again.

    Is it christianity that you're whining about this time?
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    Re: Whoops! They meant "young woman" and not "virgin"
    (Original post by NuckingFut)
    Oh its you again.

    Is it christianity that you're whining about this time?
    Bit of both I think..
  5. Kiss's Avatar
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    Re: Whoops! They meant "young woman" and not "virgin"
    Do you cry yourself to sleep at night?
  6. B-Man.'s Avatar
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    Re: Whoops! They meant "young woman" and not "virgin"
    Find a hobby.
  7. Dhaal_Chawal's Avatar
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    Re: Whoops! They meant "young woman" and not "virgin"
    (Original post by B-Man.)
    Find a hobby.
    You mean find a new one
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    Re: Whoops! They meant "young woman" and not "virgin"
    (Original post by ExMuslim)

    Also, Christians, how could Mary have been a virgin when the gospels clearly refer to Jesus having siblings?
    Younger siblings?
  9. ExMuslim's Avatar
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    Re: Whoops! They meant "young woman" and not "virgin"
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    Younger siblings?
    Considering the jealous nature of the Abrahamic God, I seriously doubt he'd let a man have sexual relations with Mary after he impregnated her himself
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    Re: Whoops! They meant "young woman" and not "virgin"
    A young woman could be a virgin woman though.
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    Re: Whoops! They meant "young woman" and not "virgin"
    (Original post by Dhaal_Chawal)
    You mean find a new one

    (Original post by B-Man.)
    Find a hobby.

    (Original post by NuckingFut)
    Oh its you again.

    Is it christianity that you're whining about this time?
    (Original post by Kiss)
    Do you cry yourself to sleep at night?
    Perhaps you could all make useful contributions on this thread rather than dismissing his points based on the fact that you all aren't fond of him?
    Last edited by Politricks; 25-07-2012 at 20:36.
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    Re: Whoops! They meant "young woman" and not "virgin"
    (Original post by Martyn*)
    A young woman could be a virgin woman though.
    Not where I live...
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    Re: Whoops! They meant "young woman" and not "virgin"
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    Perhaps you could all make useful contributions on this thread rather than dismissing his points based on the fact that you all aren't fond of him?
    We aren't fond of the op because his points are consistently rubbish. No exception here.
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    Re: Whoops! They meant "young woman" and not "virgin"
    (Original post by NuckingFut)
    We aren't fond of the op because his points are consistently rubbish. No exception here.
    If you don't agree with his point, then explain why you believe that it's wrong, rather than dismissing it with petty ad hominem point scoring.
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    Re: Whoops! They meant "young woman" and not "virgin"
    Question to anyone who worships Jesus/believes in the conception of Mary as put forth by the Bible?

    How am I meant to believe that Mary, had a child, without having sex, which is the only way she could have had a child?

    And no, 'have faith', 'it says so in the Bible', 'Because God did it' is not a good argument.
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    Re: Whoops! They meant "young woman" and not "virgin"
    Someone told me that virgin also meant a 'young woman who slept with more than 1 man' and that it was mistranslated, but i think they were joking... However she was Christian... This ruined Sunday school for me, I am now agnostic/atheist.

    EDIT: I was quite young, i stopped Sunday school when i was like 10 haha
    Last edited by RachelSophia; 25-07-2012 at 21:52.
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    Re: Whoops! They meant "young woman" and not "virgin"
    (Original post by ExMuslim)
    Looks like the gospel writers misunderstood the prophets of old and claimed that Mary was a "virgin" instead of simply a "young woman", and Muhammad inherited the misunderstanding into Islam when he plagiarized earlier Christian teachings. What is your response to this, Christians/Muslims?

    Also, Christians, how could Mary have been a virgin when the gospels clearly refer to Jesus having siblings?
    Who cares what they meant, if she existed and had a son then she wasn't a virgin, end of story.
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