[Cattty]

in muslim countries where shariah law is enforced the people are miserable- look at afganistan, when the taliban was removed did you see how happy the children were when they saw tvs etc for the 1st time? girls were allowed to be educated- people lived in the 21st centuary instead of the 8th centuary.

britain is NOT a muslim country, shariah law has no place here and never will- what would happen if i went to saudi and started trying to get western law enforced? i prob wouldnt live very long.

muslims who are 2nd and 3rd generation have never lived by sheriah law, they are indocrinated into thinking it is good and it is what allah wants, but in reality they couldnt cope with it either.

[SnoochToTheBooch]

**** that backwards, primitive ****. it'll never be accepted.

[El-Sayyid]

(Original post by plaque-buster)
Does Shariah Law have a place in the UK?

Of course. All the land in the world belongs to Islam and its devout followers.

[PopaPork]

(Original post by El-Sayyid)
Of course. All the land in the world belongs to Islam and its devout followers.

Then why has not a single country implemented sharia correctly?

Why is it when given a chance the majority of Muslims turn to democracy rather than sharia?

Your beliefs will only lead the world into conflict and violence

This is not what God wants

Peace

[Iqbal007]

(Original post by Cattty)
in muslim countries where shariah law is enforced the people are miserable- look at afganistan, when the taliban was removed did you see how happy the children were when they saw tvs etc for the 1st time? girls were allowed to be educated- people lived in the 21st centuary instead of the 8th centuary.

britain is NOT a muslim country, shariah law has no place here and never will- what would happen if i went to saudi and started trying to get western law enforced? i prob wouldnt live very long.

muslims who are 2nd and 3rd generation have never lived by sheriah law, they are indocrinated into thinking it is good and it is what allah wants, but in reality they couldnt cope with it either.

Name the Muslim countries which enforce Sharia?
Secondly Taliban never put in sharia

In Islam, women are supposed to be educated and are allowed to work, so what you on about.
Saudi Arabia is run by a Monarch, which doesn't exist in Islam

(Original post by PopaPork)
Then why has not a single country implemented sharia correctly?

Why is it when given a chance the majority of Muslims turn to democracy rather than sharia?

Your beliefs will only lead the world into conflict and violence

This is not what God wants

Peace

A large proportion of Muslim majority countries are run by Monarchs, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Jordan, Brunei, Morroco, etc. And also haven't you also realised how corrupt the countries which are in democracies, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Malayasia, Egypt, etc................ people siphoning off money, killing people, why would those people allow it to happen knowing it would their power

So stop making silly assumptions................

[CosmicVengeance]

(Original post by Iqbal007)
Name the Muslim countries which enforce Sharia?
Secondly Taliban never put in sharia

In Islam, women are supposed to educated and are allowed to work, so what you on about.
Saudi Arabia is run by a Monarch, which doesn't exist in Islam


A large proportion of Muslim majority countries are run by Monarchs, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Jordan, Brunei, Morroco, etc. And also haven't you also realised how corrupt the countries which are in democracies, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Malayasia, Egypt, etc................ people siphoning off money, killing people, why would those people allow it to happen knowing it would their power

So stop making silly assumptions................

Agreed. These people only know the word Shariah and ramble on about it like they've been studying a phd in it


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[PopaPork]

(Original post by Iqbal007)
Name the Muslim countries which enforce Sharia?
A large proportion of Muslim majority countries are run by Monarchs, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Jordan, Brunei, Morroco, etc. And also haven't you also realised how corrupt the countries which are in democracies, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Malayasia, Egypt, etc................ people siphoning off money, killing people, why would those people allow it to happen knowing it would their power

So stop making silly assumptions................

LOL all I hear are excuses. If people wanted it they would have it.

But they don’t want it so it can only be forced (usually through violence).

All I hear are people living in the west extolling a system they have no experience of and no idea about

It’s a pipe dream and you’d be better wasting your time elsewhere

Peace

[Richyp22]

No it bloody doesnt have a place in england. Period. End of debate.

[. . .]

(Original post by Richyp22)
No it bloody doesnt have a place in england. Period. End of debate.

You hold a very strong argument there.

/sarcasm

[Iqbal007]

(Original post by PopaPork)
LOL all I hear are excuses. If people wanted it they would have it.

But they don’t want it so it can only be forced (usually through violence).

All I hear are people living in the west extolling a system they have no experience of and no idea about

It’s a pipe dream and you’d be better wasting your time elsewhere

Peace

How is that excuses..............your not answering my point, the fact is that these "democracies" in these Muslim majority countries are corrupt, run by a few people in control of everything, so how would you even know that these people want it.

Really? Where is the proof for such things, the Egyptian people took down their government as it was pretty much a dictatorship, along with other people, so they were the ones being forced on by a fake democracy and guess what, the majority of those who won elections are from Islamic parties

Maybe because their isn't a system which exists in present time, the original sharia existed over a millenium ago, where it clearly worked, ever heard of the Medina constitution, read it up.

Nor is it a pipe dream, what makes Democracy better than any other system, considering how it's being exploited so badly, especially in the Middle East where these so called "Democracies" in Tunisia, etc are being taken down as all they've done is cause harm.

All you can do is talk and make opinionated judgements.......... e.g. "But they don’t want it so it can only be forced (usually through violence)" despite they got taken down in the uprising, so they had a revolution against it, and elected Islamic parties instead, clearly they aren't being forced

[PopaPork]

(Original post by Iqbal007)
How is that excuses..............your not answering --------

As I said all I see are excuses

You are also claiming to speak for all Muslims around the world which is just wrong.

I know plenty of Muslims who are happy without sharia and don't want sharia enforced on them (I have a muslim boyfriend and he know he would be killed if sharia got hold in the UK)

As I said all you have are pipe dreams

Good luck wasting your time wishing for something you are never going to get

(and have you ever stopped to ask yourself you’re your god allows things to be the way they are?)

Peace

[Happydude]

I'd leave the country if it was accepted. Foul set of values which most of us managed to abandon a few centuries ago, fortunately

[CosmicVengeance]

(Original post by PopaPork)
As I said all I see are excuses

You are also claiming to speak for all Muslims around the world which is just wrong.

I know plenty of Muslims who are happy without sharia and don't want sharia enforced on them (I have a muslim boyfriend and he know he would be killed if sharia got hold in the UK)

As I said all you have are pipe dreams

Good luck wasting your time wishing for something you are never going to get

(and have you ever stopped to ask yourself you’re your god allows things to be the way they are?)

Peace

How is he a muslim? Because of his name right and maybe his parents are too, i gaurantee hes not a practicing muslim as All Muslims know that relationships besides Husband/Wife are FORBIDDEN, i can already see your future its going to be a big mess, have fun.


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[Iqbal007]

(Original post by PopaPork)
As I said all I see are excuses

You are also claiming to speak for all Muslims around the world which is just wrong.

I know plenty of Muslims who are happy without sharia and don't want sharia enforced on them (I have a muslim boyfriend and he know he would be killed if sharia got hold in the UK)

As I said all you have are pipe dreams

Good luck wasting your time wishing for something you are never going to get

(and have you ever stopped to ask yourself you’re your god allows things to be the way they are?)

Peace

Which they aren't, considering the fact I have provided valid knowledge, no country has sharia while providing the

When did I say I speak for all Muslims? Please can you show me that
I am simply passing on facts from the original implementation of sharia.

You know "plenty", and that's representative of all the Muslims of the world?
All i'm stating is that their no proper sharia law, no Islamic state, I'm not advocating sharia in the UK, i'm advocating that sharia should be implemented properly in those countries who say they have it like the Prophet did.

But these aren't piped dreams, considering how these corrupt democracies are being taken down in the Middle east.

Who say's im wishing, their are organisations out there calling to get rid of so called Monarchies in countries like KSA, etc.

That's cos it's called free will.

[PopaPork]

(Original post by CosmicVengeance)
How is he a muslim? Because of his name right and maybe his parents are too, i gaurantee hes not a practicing muslim as All Muslims know that relationships besides Husband/Wife are FORBIDDEN, i can already see your future its going to be a big mess, have fun.


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He's a Muslim because he says he is.

Oh and I'm not his GF/Wife I'm his boyfriend and have been for 3 years

see we live in a world now were Gay Muslims are free to practice their face as they see fit not something he would have under sharia and why he doesn’t want sharia. But then I have Muslim friends who are not gay but still wouldn’t like to live under sharia so they only way you can get them to accept sharia is if you force them to

Not the best of system is it when you have to force people to follow

Peace

[Cattty]

A large proportion of Muslim majority countries are run by Monarchs, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Jordan, Brunei, Morroco, etc. And also haven't you also realised how corrupt the countries which are in democracies, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Malayasia, Egypt, etc................ people siphoning off money, killing people, why would those people allow it to happen knowing it would their power

So stop making silly assumptions................[/QUOTE]

well seeing as the majority of muslim countries are run by a dictatorship, not true democracy that is not a valid point. look at other countries run by true democracy, not theorocracy- australia, uk, usa, most of europe etc- we have freedom of speech, can wear what we want, practise any religion we want, and choose how we live our lives.
strict muslim countries- women have to wear full burka in many of them (some with face showing), no alcohol, u cant practise another religion (at least not openly), women have been stoned to death for just looking at another man which some of the see as adultery- have people not moved on since the 8th centuary?

so i wonder why so many people in muslim countries have been rioting over the last year..........

[ar22man]

when discussing shariah you have to be very specific. Everything a muslim does is Shariah, doesnt eat prok, only halal, no alcohol, how they pray, how they talk and address others everything is shariah. The mainstream media only look at shriah in terms of punishments (cutting of hands etc), womens role and stuff like that. to say that sharia has no place in britiain really means that muslims have no place here and that not a nice thing to say.

[Iqbal007]

(Original post by Cattty)
well seeing as the majority of muslim countries are run by a dictatorship, not true democracy that is not a valid point. look at other countries run by true democracy, not theorocracy- australia, uk, usa, most of europe etc- we have freedom of speech, can wear what we want, practise any religion we want, and choose how we live our lives.
strict muslim countries- women have to wear full burka in many of them (some with face showing), no alcohol, u cant practise another religion (at least not openly), women have been stoned to death for just looking at another man which some of the see as adultery- have people not moved on since the 8th centuary?

so i wonder why so many people in muslim countries have been rioting over the last year..........

But you don't get it do you, I'm proving my point the fact that they are run in such a way, how can you say that they are following Sharia when they already go against the basic principle of running an Islamic state. A Islamic state is one which is run by an elected Caliphate which none are.

They aren't "strict" if they were a proper Islamic state they wouldn't have a royal family, nor dictatorships at all.
Have you ever looked at the Medina constitution or how Islam's prophet Muhammad pbuh ran the state when he was alive.
Their were nor religious police, people were free to do as they please, free to practice their faith..............really? thats so much crap, give me a link to that, also adultery is applied to both men and women, and adultery is having sex with someone other than your spouse when married.

Lets look at these nations which were rioting, Syria, Egypt, Tunisia all pretty much secular run countries under a dictatorship, Bahrain and KSA both Monarchy systems which aren't allowed in Islam............. on top of that the ones which have been toppled are electing religious parties into power.

[supraman]

(Original post by Politricks)
Are you saying that Islam isn't being clear?

I'm saying their is differing views on certain new concepts, doesn't mean what Islam has said.

(Original post by .eXe)
There aren't...? You seem to be the only person here who actually doesn't know that apostasy is a crime under Sharia.

On past threads, others on TSR have posted quite extensively comparing conversion out of Islam to betrayal. The example they use most often is how some countries execute people for committing treason and in the same way Sharia executes traitors who leave the faith <-- this is how they justify it.

[Perseveranze]

(Original post by PopaPork)
He's a Muslim because he says he is.

Oh and I'm not his GF/Wife I'm his boyfriend and have been for 3 years

see we live in a world now were Gay Muslims are free to practice their face as they see fit not something he would have under sharia and why he doesn’t want sharia. But then I have Muslim friends who are not gay but still wouldn’t like to live under sharia so they only way you can get them to accept sharia is if you force them to

Not the best of system is it when you have to force people to follow

Peace

What did I just read... Ramadan aswell ugh.

Refer him to this - http://gaymuslims.org/

And let's hope he doesn't believe Sodomy is allowed in Islam, because that really would make him Non-Muslim.