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Reply 20
Original post by PinguN18
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UoC has a near identical teaching style along with the workshops etc :smile: I really liked Norwich when I visited it would have been a good choice for me but it was just so far away from home and it put me off as I was scared to move out. Norwich is a really nice place though and the University there is very good. You are probably right that Norwich would be noticed more over a UoC graduate but really it's about where you feel comfortable and if the town/place you spend 3-4 years in suits you. I sometimes wonder what if (had I gone to Norwich) but I think with me being Northern through and through I'd have been very lonely and home sick.

My advice to current applicants:
- Go to as many open days as possible
- Ask tons of questions even if they are stupid
- You are spending a good 3-4 years at this University you need to know 100% you'll be happy there and getting your moneys worth
- Don't obsess too much over top University's pick the one that feels the most comfortable to you.
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Reply 21
Original post by Jiyeon
UoC has the same teaching style :smile: I really liked Norwich when I visited it would have been a good choice for me but it was just so far away from home and it put me off as I was scared to move out. Norwich is a really nice place though and the University there is very good.


I didn't really care about distance and Norwich is only 200 miles away from home, in Lancashire. Just means if I need to come back at short notice on the cheap, I have to endure a 12 hour coach journey but its the different between spending £20 and £80 on an off-peak return so don't really care.

I never looked above where I live as I want to go to London so being in Carlisle wouldn't really be much good.
Reply 22
Original post by PinguN18
I didn't really care about distance and Norwich is only 200 miles away from home, in Lancashire. Just means if I need to come back at short notice on the cheap, I have to endure a 12 hour coach journey but its the different between spending £20 and £80 on an off-peak return so don't really care.

I never looked above where I live as I want to go to London so being in Carlisle wouldn't really be much good.


Ohh good luck with London :smile: It's nice to see people passionate about other University's that aren't the typical places people apply for (well at least in my experience with the forums here). There are a lot of good universities out there that don't get enough recognition.
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Reply 23
That's why I'm trying to put the word out a little bit. People are really missing out on some of the really good places, not just NUCA. I, myself, only came across NUCA by mistake, my friend lived in Norwich and I really wanted to be close to them so did deeper research into what was in the area. I found out about it really late.

Its a whole different ball game for creative degrees, you just can't go off league tables really, as you have to look at each individual course's reputations.
Reply 24
Original post by PinguN18

Its a whole different ball game for creative degrees, you just can't go off league tables really, as you have to look at each individual course's reputations.


I agree 100% and this is definitely something applicants should be looking out for. I found with the typical University's they didn't seem to have the same level of feedback and tutor time as the lesser known University's did.
Reply 25
Original post by PinguN18
NUCA also do a Graphic Communication course which looks at the more digital side and your outcomes can be pretty much anything. Video, Websites, Apps. One of the guys that teaches on the course is a director in the music industry, he's done videos for a big star, which I can't quite remember the name of, at this moment in time.

It depends what you want out of uni really. With NUCA being just an art college, its really small, everyone knows each other throughout different courses and different years. Which creates a really tight community, which I love.

Whats great is, as long as you get an induction, you can use any workshop, regardless of what course your on. So if you wanted, you can go and do screen printing, even though this is used for textiles. It opens up the possibilities of what you can achieve. I didn't find many unis which did this. You can borrow DSLRs and other recording equipment, to use off campus or in the photography studio, which is really handy sometimes if you don't have your own.

We have excellent facilities. The graphic design studio has been completely re-developed, only opened in January. Its open plan much more like and industry studio. There's a digital print room with real colour monitors, so you know what colours you see are the ones your going to get when its printed. This is where you can get large format prints, prints start at £3 for an A2. Lucy who runs this is fantastic. If she messes up your print or it gets lost before you can collect it and you nice to her, she'll usually print you another for free. Make friends with her! Shes a live saver sometimes.

The course is mainly studio based, so you do work in the studio and then talk to the tutors when you need guidance. In the first year you get a briefing every other Monday and a group crit (no more then 8 people plus the tutor) every Monday in between, with one on a Friday every week.

You get a lecture and a tutorial each week for contextual studies, the topics are very restrictive in the first year, to get you used to writing reports, but in the second year it opens up a lot to get you ready for writing you dissertation (technically called a research report) which is only 5,000 work because it's not an academic uni.

You also get a school of design lecture and a Graphic program lecture, this is usually the best lecture of the week as it design agencies coming into talk to you, big ones too sometime. This is new since we got a new course leader at the beginning of last year, we never used to get them as regular.

The campus is in the city centre, right next to the river. All the buildings are really close together so you never have to walk far. Its lovely being in the city because you can go sit in the parks for lunch when is sunny and you not tied the shops on the campus. UEA. the other uni in Norwich is a few miles out, in the middle of nowhere and I know some people feel a little bit trapped by it.

Sorry for the long post. Just wanted to make sure you have enough information.

I'm sorry to say that if you asked any one in industry they would probably pick NUCA over UoC.


Thank you! Don't worry about long posts. This has been very helpful :smile:
Reply 26
Original post by Ben_sterling
Thank you! Don't worry about long posts. This has been very helpful :smile:


Your welcome. I'm happy to answer any other questions you have too. :smile:
Hi, I did Graphic Design and Art as an a level and wasn't sure which path to take in the art and design industry, I did very well on both but my teachers told me to take on a foundation course.

There are advantages to taking a foundation:

1) You have SO much more of a chance to get into a good BA course because you have a varied and better portfolio - my a level one looking back makes me cringe

2) You sometimes find that you're actually better and like doing something else rather than what you thought you would be (I know people in my foundation who wanted to go into art but ended up having a real knack for product design)


I went to do the UAL Chelsea, Camberwell and Wimbledon foundation and can honestly say that the year was by far so worth it. Yes, I thought it would be a waste too like you - but its not. Its a great advantage to have a foundation where you've specialised in graphic design - its not the same as what you do in a National Diploma or A-level - you don't see it as just image, image or how something looks in general, it's more about what something is communicating and that lesson was so worth learning because my portfolio was pretty good and I got into all of my choices for BA graphic design (LCC, Chelsea, Falmouth, NUCA and Camberwell).

The only thing I'm going to say s the type of graphic design you're into, if you're just thinking of graphic design in the A level way 'ooh lets put this in blue because it goes nice with the the background' instead of 'actually no lets put this is red, bold capital letters because it's a warning sign' then you're going to need to do foundation.

I know some unis like different things. The UAL unis I applied for + Falmouth like conceptual stuff, mainly ideas, brainstorming, reasons WHY you're putting type in red, why the image is smaller in comparison to the other image etc... They like you being clever. Norwich however, I found, didn't actually get my conceptual approach, they said my work was weird. I gathered that they were more into how something looked rather it communication - they are more diverse in what graphic design is aswell - I know they like animation and film whereas I prefer more print and 3-D model-making (again not knowing that you can use 3-d as graphic design means that you don't really know what you're getting yourself into and they ask you these sorts of things (i.e what materials do you like using - 3D/2D? in interviews)

Anyhow, I chose going to Falmouth over UAL. This was a surprise to my other friends in my UAL foundation because UAL has amazing reputation. Tbh though, UAL is not all that, it relies heavily on reputation. In all of UAL, Chelsea I think has the best graphic design course, but again they all have different approaches. Chelsea = for conceptuals, small course, very good, very nice area. Camberwell = easier to get into, still good little bit bigger, not good area
LCC = recently a new course has started - don't know what its like meant to be good, pretty big course, not good area.
CSM = for independants only, if you can't cope without have someone to guide you along then not good for you as little tutor time, tbh i think its a bit overrated which is why i didnt apply but its up to you, i would say you need to be very independant though, big course, nice area

I would recommend to do your foundation at your local college, any foundaton is just as good as the ones in London. However, if you want to go to UAL for a degree for certain, do a foundation at one of the UALs as you have better chance of getting into them as you are guaranteed an interview. If you don't do a foundation, you can still get in, however, your chances are minimal and your work has to be up to par as you are competing with candidates who have done one, or candidates who have missed out on year before and applying again.

Other unis I would recommend other than mentioned are definitely Glasgow and Edinburgh, both are amazingly good but both favour towards those who have done a foundation at their unis and are quite hard to get in.

Brighton - very good, nice area, particularly if you're into designing album covers. Their work is very good, however you have to be pretty good to get in and there are so many candidates with little amount of places, plus they can reject you just based on your online portfolio, the interviews there are also ask about you rather than your work, for example a girl in my foundation got asked 'What do you think of Scottish independence?' Another 'What object would you be and why?' also 'What question did you not want us to ask?' Infact one of the guys who got in, I didn't think was very good so it's a bit unpredictable I guess.

Others:

Bournemouth (not sure which one because there's two), UCA Epsom, Portsmouth, Plymouth, UCLAN, Northumbria, Bath Spa, Leeds, Kingston, Middlesex, Salford, Sheffield Hallam, New Bucks, Ravensbourne (forgot about this one - amazing for those who are computer orientated/digital)

Thats mostly the good ones - however if you want some more go on the D&AD website look at the competition winners at where they've come from, all those are good universities to consider - most are the ones above though.

Anyway, I'm off to Falmouth, they seemed so nice in my interview, offering me advice about my work and the standard is so high - take a look at the website and compare to other unis, 120 starting this September - it is ages away (I come from near London) but it's so peaceful, it's the opposite of London makes me feel I can do my work at my own pace without all of that headache of all that fast paced lifestyle.
Reply 28
Original post by organizedchaos



I went to do the UAL Chelsea, Camberwell and Wimbledon foundation and can honestly say that the year was by far so worth it. Yes, I thought it would be a waste too like you - but its not. Its a great advantage to have a foundation where you've specialised in graphic design - its not the same as what you do in a National Diploma or A-level - you don't see it as just image, image or how something looks in general, it's more about what something is communicating and that lesson was so worth learning because my portfolio was pretty good and I got into all of my choices for BA graphic design (LCC, Chelsea, Falmouth, NUCA and Camberwell).


If you know what you want to do then you really don't need a foundation. The first year is all about bringing everyone up to the same standard, teaching you the importance behind ideas. Also, history of design and typography. I know loads of people on my course who came straight from a-level. A-level portfolios are perfectly acceptable because they look for potential. I did a National Diploma and knew all about the importance of being conceptual. Pretty much all the London unis aren't all that. Only do a foundation if it what you want to do and you'll think it'll help. You can still get on the best courses without one.

Original post by organizedchaos


I know some unis like different things. The UAL unis I applied for + Falmouth like conceptual stuff, mainly ideas, brainstorming, reasons WHY you're putting type in red, why the image is smaller in comparison to the other image etc... They like you being clever. Norwich however, I found, didn't actually get my conceptual approach, they said my work was weird. I gathered that they were more into how something looked rather it communication - they are more diverse in what graphic design is aswell - I know they like animation and film whereas I prefer more print and 3-D model-making (again not knowing that you can use 3-d as graphic design means that you don't really know what you're getting yourself into and they ask you these sorts of things (i.e what materials do you like using - 3D/2D? in interviews)


Norwich are very industry based. They take weird conceptual ideas but make them suitable for real-live briefs. The first year is very much about experimentation which materials and ideas but on realistic briefs. Then in the second year you specialize in either Graphic design or publishing and use the skills learnt in the first year to learn how to create a good packaging design or a good brand identity.

No way are they only in to looks, seriously half of the stuff that comes out from other place we wouldn't even be allowed to take pass initial ideas. If they were only into way something looks, there's no where the industry would hold them in such high regard.

You only do animation/film on graphic communication. I have never done this things on Graphic design, the two courses are completely, totally different. Probably one of the only things they have in common is that we share the same studio space.

Original post by organizedchaos



Thats mostly the good ones - however if you want some more go on the D&AD website look at the competition winners at where they've come from, all those are good universities to consider - most are the ones above though.


One word of advise. D&AD can be very clique-y. I'd look at a variety of other competitions too. DesignBridge's DogB*****ks is a good one, along with YCN.
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Original post by PinguN18
If you know what you want to do then you really don't need a foundation. The first year is all about bringing everyone up to the same standard, teaching you the importance behind ideas. Also, history of design and typography. I know loads of people on my course who came straight from a-level. A-level portfolios are perfectly acceptable because they look for potential. I did a National Diploma and knew all about the importance of being conceptual. Pretty much all the London unis aren't all that. Only do a foundation if it what you want to do and you'll think it'll help. You can still get on the best courses without one.


I'm not saying you can't get onto a really good course without a foundation, you can but I'm pointing out that people who have done a foundation in general just have more of an advantage of getting into a good course than if you have only done a-levels or a national diploma. I know some people who have tried from interviews from a levels and national diplomas only to be told to do a foundation year anyway. I'm saying from my own personal experience in a level I doubt I would have gotten into a good course because I wasn't thinking right about the subject - I didn't know nothing about being conceptual. I maybe would have gotten into an okay course, but I want to get into the best and if doing an extra year helps me build on my knowledge then so be it. So if you want that extra knowledge and step up from the work on a level or national diploma, why not?


Original post by PinguN18
Norwich are very industry based. They take weird conceptual ideas but make them suitable for real-live briefs. The first year is very much about experimentation which materials and ideas but on realistic briefs. Then in the second year you specialize in either Graphic design or publishing and use the skills learnt in the first year to learn how to create a good packaging design or a good brand identity.

No way are they only in to looks, seriously half of the stuff that comes out from other place we wouldn't even be allowed to take pass initial ideas. If they were only into way something looks, there's no where the industry would hold them in such high regard.

You only do animation/film on graphic communication. I have never done this things on Graphic design, the two courses are completely, totally different. Probably one of the only things they have in common is that we share the same studio space.


I'm in no way saying that Norwich is a bad place to go. I know it's up there amongst the best in the country, their work on the website is amazing and it's a great place in general, this is just what I felt from the interview because they just didn't get my work. I'm not saying that as a bad thing, I know different universities prefer different approaches to work. I personally, didn't feel like my work would have suited there.
I've also always thought that graphic design and graphic communication are pretty much the same thing anyway, you have to design to communicate and you can't not communicate when you design. Graphic deign is communicating a message. I don't see how they are not the same thing?
Reply 30
Original post by organizedchaos
I'm not saying you can't get onto a really good course without a foundation, you can but I'm pointing out that people who have done a foundation in general just have more of an advantage of getting into a good course than if you have only done a-levels or a national diploma. I know some people who have tried from interviews from a levels and national diplomas only to be told to do a foundation year anyway. I'm saying from my own personal experience in a level I doubt I would have gotten into a good course because I wasn't thinking right about the subject - I didn't know nothing about being conceptual. I maybe would have gotten into an okay course, but I want to get into the best and if doing an extra year helps me build on my knowledge then so be it. So if you want that extra knowledge and step up from the work on a level or national diploma, why not?


I would say a-level are at more of a disadvantage as the structure of the course is completely different whereas a national diploma is a lot more similar to that of a foundation and degree. I don't know many people, apart those who didn't get very good grades, who did a foundation and a national diploma as there really is no point.

That maybe the case for you but not for everyone, I was just presenting the other side of the argument. As I said, if you wanted to do a foundation then do one, but if you don't then don't because its not as vital as some people think.



Original post by organizedchaos

I'm in no way saying that Norwich is a bad place to go. I know it's up there amongst the best in the country, their work on the website is amazing and it's a great place in general, this is just what I felt from the interview because they just didn't get my work. I'm not saying that as a bad thing, I know different universities prefer different approaches to work. I personally, didn't feel like my work would have suited there.


Saying it prefers looks to communication is kinda a bad thing. Anyone with any idea of graphic design should know that you need the ideas too back up the design or else its not a very good piece of design.

Original post by organizedchaos

I've also always thought that graphic design and graphic communication are pretty much the same thing anyway, you have to design to communicate and you can't not communicate when you design. Graphic deign is communicating a message. I don't see how they are not the same thing?


Graphic Design is print based, this is one course. They focus on packaging, brand identity, magazine, book design. What you traditional think of graphic design. Graphic Communication is digital-based. It's a very different course. It's website design, app design, that sort of thing. Although there rely on the same principles they are very different courses and if digital is not your thing defiantly stay away from graphic communication. That's how it is at NUCA anyway.
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Reply 31
My thoughts on a foundation course:

It's only necessary if the individual only has their A-level work to present in a portfolio, however if they have other work where they've followed the style in which a foundation course would teach (research pages-along with a lot of experimentation, mood boards, customer profiles, initial ideas, development, final piece) in their portfolio, then the person should be fine just going and applying.

Some people just haven't done that work/don't understand how to do that work. That's why they'd need to do it...

I think this is because the uni doesn't want to teach your how to respond to a brief, they expect you to already know how to do it...
Reply 32
Is there a table for just Graphic Design universities Ian not just art and design?
Reply 33
Original post by J4YK
Is there a table for just Graphic Design universities Ian not just art and design?


The table is all specialist unis. Not just art and design.

The only way to find out the "best" for a graphic design course would be to look at past competitions winners. Some of which are above.
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Original post by OliviaSophia
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Reply 36
Hey, I'm also lookinh for graphics design universities... We basically applied for the same unis o_O
I was lucky that I was given an invite to LCC - London Communications College, which is basically together with UAL Central St. Martins, the courses there were very focused on Graphics and photography there... that's from my experience.. [um i'm totally clueless about student financing and stuff D: .. -is so hopeless xD]
And I applied for UCA - University for Creative Arts but i haven't looked into this yet... and the other one is CCW Chelsea college of arts... - totally sorry i don't seem like much help..
Original post by Ben_sterling
I'll be starting my second year at college in September, and I'm starting to look into universities to study graphic design. So far I've been getting distinctions relatively easily and I'm working on completing a physical portfolio.

Basically, I don't know what to do.

I've heard good things about UAL-Central Saint Martins as an art university in general, however I'm not sure about the graphic design side of it. Also, for the course and accommodation cost it will be £48,798 (£7,266 a year for accommodation, £9000 a year for the course->could increase.)for the three years. Also, there are no bookings left for the graphic design course.

I've also looked at Kingston University. From what I've seen from the course contents, I like it, almost as much as CSM... Accommodation there will cost significantly less, £3,970 a year. The course price isn't available yet.

I also need three other universities, as I believe I can apply to 5 through UCAS, and I can't find any with significant value over another...

If it came down to choosing between CSM and Kingston, I don't know what to do... Lots of money spent and possibly good education with good rep. or possibly the same quality of education, less rep from the uni, and spend less...

Thank you for your time,

Benjamin Sterling


Hello! My name is Eliel and I am UCA representative and also a current student there. I have been doing photography for 2 years now.

I read you were asking about Graphic Design courses across the UK and though you would be interested in our degree programs at UCA. I don't know if you have heard of UCA before. The University for the Creative Arts is one of the leading providers of specialist art and design education in Europe. We are a diverse community of about 7,000 students from more than 70 countries and are based around five campuses in Surrey and Kent.

We have a total of 4 Graphic Design courses across our Farnham, Canterbury and Epsom campuses. You can find more information about each one by clicking in the following links:

- UCA Epsom, BA (Hons) Graphic Design: New Media - http://www.ucreative.ac.uk/ba-graphic-design-new-media
- UCA Epsom, BA (Hons) Graphic Design - http://www.ucreative.ac.uk/ba-graphic-design
- UCA Canterbury, BA (Hons) Graphic Design: Visual Communications - http://www.ucreative.ac.uk/ba-graphi...communications
- UCA Farnham, BA (Hons) Graphic Communication - http://www.ucreative.ac.uk/ba-graphic-communication

As I said before, I am a current student at UCA and have been for almost 2 years now so if you have any questions rewarding student life or anything else please don't hesitate to ask.

Hope you find this useful.

Eliel.

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