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Re: Crap eventsA poor response deserves a poorer response.(Original post by thecookiemonster)
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I think a good rule would be that if the activity in question involves an object (inanimate or otherwise) it must require more than trivial physical exertion on the part of the athlete in order to move the object for it to be an Olympic sport. Weight lifting, shot, javelin, archery, discus, relay, cycling etc are therefore included but I think it's fair that darts, racing or snooker aren't included as future Olympic events. By the same standards I think shooting and dressage should be removed.
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Re: Crap eventsI completely disagree, I think it should promote working hard. The more skilled sports require more practise to be the best. There are no events that require no skill.(Original post by Hopple)
First off, I think the Olympics should promote and reward athletic ability. Not that that's the only thing - teamwork, skill, timing etc are involved too - but I think it ought to be an essential part of any event that is given medals.
The first medals won this Olympics were for the 10 metres women's air rifle. Now, I'm sure they're all very skilled and someone like me would make a fool of myself if I just turned up and had a go, but I just don't think that sort of thing should be at the Olympics. If you watch the video, they just stand there, no need to even walk around. I'd argue the same against archery and that horse crufts/ballet thing (heck, even normal horse riding has the horse being the main athlete).
The reason I say the Olympics should promote and reward athletic ability is because it's supposed to 'inspire a generation'. Now, I ask you, would you rather encourage kids to aspire to run the fastest, jump the highest/furthest and be the strongest, or get good at standing and shooting? Do you want kids to be active, or sedantry?
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Re: Crap eventsAgree with that, definitely. Participation alone it's right up there with any other sport on the planet.(Original post by DickDastardly)
squash keeps getting rejected as an olympic sport, which is pretty stupid, it should definitely be an olympic sport -
Re: Crap eventsEvidently you have never ridden(Original post by Hopple)
Yeah, it is more skillful to use a bow, but I still wouldn't call them athletes.
I found a video for the horse thing, where the riders get medals for just sitting on the horse. Fair enough they trained the horse, but not with any physical exertion on their part.
Olympic riders do things on horses that normal riders could only dream of. It takes years of training and building up a partnership to be able to even attempt the things they do.
I wouldnt expect you to understand dressage and the skill behind it if you have never ridden, but thr movements are extremely difficult to get right with the amount of prescision they require. One of the aims is to not be able to see signals between horse and rider so it may seem to you that the rider is doing nothing but thats how its meant to appear.
As for showjumping and eventing you need to be extremely fit to ride the onlympic courses, olympic riders will do hours and hours of fitness training because otherwise you wouldnt be able to cope.
And as for the horses, extremely talented horses like the ones ridden in the olympics are normally very difficult to ride due their temperments. They are not quiet riding school ponies. -
Re: Crap eventsWhy dressage? Ive just written a post to someone else about this, probably will appear above this one. People are under the misconception that dressage riders do nothing when actually to do the sport correctly its meant to appear that way. Those riders are working just as hard as the other athletes to maintain that level of control and prescision. The horses used are normally difficult to ride, strong and tempermental as well, really difficult to ride and communicate with.(Original post by Logi)
I think a good rule would be that if the activity in question involves an object (inanimate or otherwise) it must require more than trivial physical exertion on the part of the athlete in order to move the object for it to be an Olympic sport. Weight lifting, shot, javelin, archery, discus, relay, cycling etc are therefore included but I think it's fair that darts, racing or snooker aren't included as future Olympic events. By the same standards I think shooting and dressage should be removed.
I would actually say its one of the hardest olympic sports.
I agree racing would be stupid as that is literally all about the horse and the fastest one, not riding skill. -
Re: Crap eventsWhere is the physical exertion to make the object (the horse) do as they want? Yes they have to know where to prod the thing but it's the horse that is doing the work. It's the same as if they introduced any form of racing cars into the olympics - it requires a lot of skill and concentration but no physical effort to make the car move.(Original post by kunoichi)
Why dressage? Ive just written a post to someone else about this, probably will appear above this one. People are under the misconception that dressage riders do nothing when actually to do the sport correctly its meant to appear that way. Those riders are working just as hard as the other athletes to maintain that level of control and prescision. The horses used are normally difficult to ride, strong and tempermental as well, really difficult to ride and communicate with.
I would actually say its one of the hardest olympic sports. -
Re: Crap eventsyeah realised that... soz(Original post by social outcast)
It is only the first time they ride the horse in the modern pentathlon in all the other equestrian disciplines they will be long established partnerships -
Re: Crap eventsOmg even decent riding at ordinary level requires a fair amount of physical exertion let alone the kinds of movements expected at olympic level on the powerful olympic standard horses.(Original post by Logi)
Where is the physical exertion to make the object (the horse) do as they want? Yes they have to know where to prod the thing but it's the horse that is doing the work. It's the same as if they introduced any form of racing cars into the olympics - it requires a lot of skill and concentration but no physical effort to make the car move.
The reason you dont see any physical exertation is because the rider would be marked down for showing that or any physical signals to the horse. To get the best mark it has to be so subtle as to be all but invisible.
For the olympic riders this involves using every muscle and all the strength they have to get the horse doing the 'exact' movement at the exact time without showing any effort.
Do you have any idea how much effort it takes to go with the horses movement so well it looks like you arent moving? Takes a huge amount of fitness and muscle, most riders wouldnt be able to manage that.
TBH the whole people thinking that dressage riders do nothing is almost a compliment to the dressage riders as thats the look that they are supposed to be achieving.
At the end of the day though, i dont think unless you ride you are going to understand how much effort it takes and how much skill and fitness high level dressage needs.
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Re: Crap eventsNo actually in some cases you are right(Original post by anna-chipie 95)
yeah realised that... soz
There have been olympics where the riders horses coulnt travel to another country for various reasons or another and they have had to use the countrys horses meeting them for the first time at the olympics. So it can happen
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I agree to an extent. Because the Olympics is 'sports' and i don't really think they are particularly 'sporty'
But then again the amount of skill and concentration in an archer or gun man [i think they're called?] Must be extremely difficult to obtain. So the fact that they are so focused is surely admirable?
In saying that... Darts and golf should be in the Olympics too?