[WelshBluebird]

(Original post by Suetonius)
Why would an employer hire somebody and pay them a wage which exceeds their skill level when that money could be invested in something else?

Because they have no choice?
In general jobs that are paid minimum wage are jobs that simply have to be done regardless. Thinks like cleaners. An office cleaner doesn't add any profit to the company, but the office has to be cleaned. The same is true of shelf stackers in supermarkets - that is a job that simply has to be done regardless of how much it costs the company.
There is no evidence at all to support what you say about the minimum wage increasing unemployment. Indeed we saw no such thing when it was introduced so you really cannot make such a judgment.
Although judging by the video in your sig, I doubt it is possible to reason with you.

[billydisco]

Lets be honest- there arent many people who have tried hard in life and ended up working for the minimum wage. All the people I know who have nothing are jokers who never take anything seriously and don't deserve any more.....

If you want to mess about then pay the price- a poor life!

It's only special circumstances where a person's family die or they get beaten up by their dad where someone has a reason for failure.

[A.J10]

(Original post by sambrfc10)
Up until my 18th birthday (about 4 weeks ago) I worked for £3.80 an hour. I had no motivation to go to work so I just rejected any shifts that were offered to me. The minimum wage for me now is £4.98. Still absolutely pointless considering some of my friends are on £7.50 an hour.

The age bands are ridiculous... To be honest I don't even get minimum wage...

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[billydisco]

(Original post by WelshBluebird)
There is no evidence at all to support what you say about the minimum wage increasing unemployment.

Except all the British companies like dyson moving to Asia because Labour is cheaper?

[WelshBluebird]

(Original post by billydisco)
Except all the British companies like dyson moving to Asia because Labour is cheaper?

Which would have happened regardless because it isn't just things like wages that are cheaper over there. EVERYTHING is. Including things like safety etc etc. Also, could you really see British people putting up with some of the conditions that exist in china? No. And rightfully so.

(Original post by billydisco)
Lets be honest- there arent many people who have tried hard in life and ended up working for the minimum wage. All the people I know who have nothing are jokers who never take anything seriously and don't deserve any more.....

If you want to mess about then pay the price- a poor life!

It's only special circumstances where a person's family die or they get beaten up by their dad where someone has a reason for failure.

Naive to say the least.

[Nick100]

You seem to forget that not everyone lives in isolation. An 18 year old student who lives with his parents and starts working for £5/hour, 30 hours a week for 20 weeks of the year will earn £3000; that wouldn't be enough to fund him if he lived alone but it is of substantial benefit to his family.

[A.J10]

(Original post by Nick100)
You seem to forget that not everyone lives in isolation. An 18 year old student who lives with his parents and starts working for £5/hour, 30 hours a week for 20 weeks of the year will earn £3000; that wouldn't be enough to fund him if he lived alone but it is of substantial benefit to his family.

This is true, hell I'd be happy working for a guaranteed £5 an hour at the moment, considering It's the summer holidays and such.

I don't agree with how a 17 year old gets £3.60 and a 21 year old gets £6.20, but the £4.98 or £6.20 seems a fair amount if you're just doing a little on the side. As a full time job to support yourself... Well that's why we have benefits.

[Jono404]

How the minimum wage being age based hasn't been challenged as discriminatory yet is beyond me, should be even more of an issue now with housing benefit being scrapped for the under 25s.

[Origami Bullets]

Minimum wage isn't worthless - its worth is found in the fact that there are a great many employers out there who would pay £2.50ph if they thought they could get away with it.

It might not be high enough, but minimum wage protects the young, the unskilled and otherwise vulnerable people from the worst excesses of employer exploitation.

[FO12DY]

(Original post by WelshBluebird)
Naive to say the least.

If you will call him naive, you should at the very least elaborate.

It may not be what you want to hear, but I don't disagree with what he says.

[TheNoobyPotato]

(Original post by lbsf1)
Aged 16 looking for a part time job there is nowhere that is prepared to pay over the minimum wage (3.80an hour) to a 16 year old. And I'm guessing is the same for 18 year olds with little qualifications where they would only be able to get jobs with minimum wage.

Last week I saw a family guy episode on exactly this. Stan wanted to kick out hayley, saying that the minumum wage is easy to live off. He tries it for a month and proves that it isn't if you want any kind of quality of life.

Shows very truthfully what most adults with better jobs think and how wrong it actually is, minimum wage is to low, benifits to high (in the uk) and you end up with the situation now with tax so high to pay for those who don't work.

http://www.watchcartoononline.com/am...ey-mo-problems

American dad. Lololol. You said family guy.

[WelshBluebird]

(Original post by FO12DY)
If you will call him naive, you should at the very least elaborate.

It may not be what you want to hear, but I don't disagree with what he says.

I would say it is pretty obvious that it isn't just people don't try hard etc are in minimum wage jobs.

[lbsf1]

(Original post by TheNoobyPotato)
American dad. Lololol. You said family guy.

Shuuuut uuup. I have jetlag.

[FO12DY]

(Original post by WelshBluebird)
I would say it is pretty obvious that it isn't just people don't try hard etc are in minimum wage jobs.

That's not what he said.

Or it sort of is, but you're removed all context.


I can't be bothered to find it to quote him, but he was talking about people working for minimum wage, and staying at minimum wage.


I don't know anyone, other than people who are just starting out, that earn minimum wage.