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UKIP GovernmentPerhaps unrealistic but for argument's sake, say Labour doesn't get its act together quite enough and the Lib Dems are all but wiped out in 2015 and the Tories are faced with another minority thanks to defection to UKIP - could a Tory-UKIP coalition be in the offing?
What kind of things would people expect to see? A return to right-wing policies for the Tories as influenced by UKIP or would Farage's party be reduced to the same status as the Lib Dems by coalition? -
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Re: UKIP GovernmentDon't know what you mean about the status of the Lib Dems since they seem to run the government.(Original post by Stuart_D)
Perhaps unrealistic but for argument's sake, say Labour doesn't get its act together quite enough and the Lib Dems are all but wiped out in 2015 and the Tories are faced with another minority thanks to defection to UKIP - could a Tory-UKIP coalition be in the offing?
What kind of things would people expect to see? A return to right-wing policies for the Tories as influenced by UKIP or would Farage's party be reduced to the same status as the Lib Dems by coalition?
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Re: UKIP GovernmentThis is probably true, since under First Past the Post (which is here to stay) it makes it hard for UKIP, which has no real geographical base of support, to gain an MP.(Original post by MagicNMedicine)
UKIP won't get a single MP never mind be in "Coalition".
As someone who believes Britain should be independent from the EU, I'm not sure whether the unlikelihood of UKIP gaining MPs in parliament is a good thing or not. Having a strong UKIP would pressure the Tories into becoming more Eurosceptic and possibly holding an EU referendum, which would be good things, but on the other hand, splitting the centre-right vote would make it much easier for Labour to get into power, who would then proceed to hand powers away to Europe willy nilly. -
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Re: UKIP GovernmentThere is an awful lot of bad blood between UKIP and the tories. Primarily because UKIP feeds off the voters of former-tories who have become disaffected with the European position of the conservative party. But on the other hand the liberal democrats and the conservative party have opposite agendas yet have been in coalition for 2 years now! So anything is possible.(Original post by Stuart_D)
Perhaps unrealistic but for argument's sake, say Labour doesn't get its act together quite enough and the Lib Dems are all but wiped out in 2015 and the Tories are faced with another minority thanks to defection to UKIP - could a Tory-UKIP coalition be in the offing?
What kind of things would people expect to see? A return to right-wing policies for the Tories as influenced by UKIP or would Farage's party be reduced to the same status as the Lib Dems by coalition?
I don't think a Nigel Farage led UKIP will enter a coalition with the conservatives though. After all Farage is constantly attacking Cameron's position on the EU and Cameron has critisied UKIP hugely. -
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I love UKIP, but maybe concentrating on gaining a seat before gaining a coalition would be more practical? Definitely doable in the future though. I can see how this could be an idealistic situation but it has just come around too prematurely.
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Re: UKIP GovernmentThis I think will be the main effect of the growth of UKIP votes, it will leach votes off the Conservatives and benefit Labour.(Original post by Super Cicero)
but on the other hand, splitting the centre-right vote would make it much easier for Labour to get into power, who would then proceed to hand powers away to Europe willy nilly.
It's like the rise of the Front Nationale in France and Marine Le Pen. Everyone was saying it was showing that France was lurching to the right but they just ate into Sarkozy's vote and resulted in the first Socialist president in two decades... -
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Re: UKIP GovernmentAn unlikely event regardless of how many funny and witty clips Nigel Farage post on youtube.
Either way, before they could gain any real popularity the Conservatives would have steered themselves towards further Euroscepticism, in fact at present moment there isn't even a need for ukip as plenty of their own backbenchers are already wanting a harder line approach on EU than that being purported by the PM. -
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Re: UKIP GovernmentAn electoral impossibility under FPTP. There is no such thing as a UKIP stronghold. Even in conservative heartlands like the retirement complexes on the south coast, you might expect a turnout of around 10% in favour of UKIP, and even trying to get their only real personality elected against a reviled speaker failed spectacularly, whereas the Greens managed to concentrate their efforts successfully on Brighton. Nope, not going to happen, and the possibility is not worth entertaining until we get a fair electoral system.
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Re: UKIP GovernmentIgnoring the fact that the Lib Dems will still poll above 15% and Labour will still poll above 30% i shall entertain this notion.
The one thing Ukip would get in such a coalition would be the EU referendum, other than that they would roll over for the Tories.
As an aside in RL Ukip are far too socially conservative (death penalty) for my liking and i would much prefer the current coalition socially with a move further right on the economy. -
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Re: UKIP GovernmentUKIP don't support the death penalty(Original post by Rakas21)
Ignoring the fact that the Lib Dems will still poll above 15% and Labour will still poll above 30% i shall entertain this notion.
The one thing Ukip would get in such a coalition would be the EU referendum, other than that they would roll over for the Tories.
As an aside in RL Ukip are far too socially conservative (death penalty) for my liking and i would much prefer the current coalition socially with a move further right on the economy.
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Re: UKIP GovernmentIn the 2010 Ukip manifesto the commitment to a referendum on capital punishment was made. Given that Ukip is full of social conservatives (never understood why people on here reckon your Libertarians) it is logical to assume that your party as a whole would be arguing for a Yes.
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Re: UKIP GovernmentNo commitment to a referendum on capital punishment was made in the 2010 UKIP manifesto.(Original post by Rakas21)
In the 2010 Ukip manifesto the commitment to a referendum on capital punishment was made. Given that Ukip is full of social conservatives (never understood why people on here reckon your Libertarians) it is logical to assume that your party as a whole would be arguing for a Yes.
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Re: UKIP GovernmentThe death penalty is good when used in the correct circumstances.(Original post by Rakas21)
In the 2010 Ukip manifesto the commitment to a referendum on capital punishment was made. Given that Ukip is full of social conservatives (never understood why people on here reckon your Libertarians) it is logical to assume that your party as a whole would be arguing for a Yes.
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