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  1. tehFrance's Avatar
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    Re: T08 - Treaty of Accession for Georgia
    (Original post by eff01)
    Withdraws his comment.
    I shall do no such thing, the Russians will back me up... would you like me to phone Vladimir for you?

    You also still seem to be unable to disprove my statements. I sense you cannot thus I have won this debate and am correct... hurrah :banana:
  2. Morgsie's Avatar
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    Re: T08 - Treaty of Accession for Georgia
    In Novembert 2010 both Georgia and Ukraine said they would cooperate in their bids to become part of the EU.

    From the EEAS: http://www.eeas.europa.eu/georgia/eu...y/index_en.htm
    http://www.eeas.europa.eu/georgia/index_en.htm
  3. tehFrance's Avatar
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    Re: T08 - Treaty of Accession for Georgia
    (Original post by jesusandtequila)
    Even that is a stretch is it not?
    How dare you attack a member of government, how dare you even suggest such a thing! Withdraw that statement at once or prepare for doomsday (or whatever it is that you believe will be the worse day for you).

    I am too honourable :smug:
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    Re: T08 - Treaty of Accession for Georgia
    (Original post by tehFrance)
    I shall do no such thing, the Russians will back me up... would you like me to phone Vladimir for you?

    You also still seem to be unable to disprove my statements. I sense you cannot thus I have won this debate and am correct... hurrah :banana:
    Provide latest evidence or withdraw your comment.
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    Re: T08 - Treaty of Accession for Georgia
    (Original post by Morgsie)
    In Novembert 2010 both Georgia and Ukraine said they would cooperate in their bids to become part of the EU.
    Ukraine is not becoming an EU member... the Russian half won't allow it (I say half, I believe there are more Russian lovers in Ukraine than half the populace) and Russia will invade Ukraine before Ukraine becomes an EU member (judging by Russia's past that is... ).
  6. tehFrance's Avatar
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    Re: T08 - Treaty of Accession for Georgia
    (Original post by eff01)
    Provide latest evidence or withdraw your comment.
    Disprove me or shut up.
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    Re: T08 - Treaty of Accession for Georgia
    (Original post by Morgsie)
    In Novembert 2010 both Georgia and Ukraine said they would cooperate in their bids to become part of the EU.

    From the EEAS: http://www.eeas.europa.eu/georgia/eu...y/index_en.htm
    http://www.eeas.europa.eu/georgia/index_en.htm
    Mr Speaker, I thank the honourable gentleman for quoting this document. This idea by certain members of the government that the idea of Georgia joining the EU is 'alien' is absurd.
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    Ukraine is not becoming an EU member... the Russian half won't allow it (I say half, I believe there are more Russian lovers in Ukraine than half the populace) and Russia will invade Ukraine before Ukraine becomes an EU member (judging by Russia's past that is... ).
    European Neigbourhood Policy, nuff said. There is close relations already
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    Re: T08 - Treaty of Accession for Georgia
    (Original post by Morgsie)
    There is close relations already
    Between whom? Russia and the EU? not as close as you'd think. Between the EU and Ukraine, yes, fine however Ukraine will never join especially not when Russia is on her way to remerging as a global superpower.
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    Re: T08 - Treaty of Accession for Georgia
    (Original post by eff01)
    Mr Speaker, I thank the honourable gentleman for quoting this document. This idea by certain members of the government that the idea of Georgia joining the EU is 'alien' is absurd.
    I also look at wikipedia,
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia...nion_relations

    http://eeas.europa.eu/delegations/ge...s/index_en.htm

    Georgia is involved in the ENP and the Eastern Partnership
  11. Morgsie's Avatar
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    Between whom? Russia and the EU? not as close as you'd think. Between the EU and Ukraine, yes, fine however Ukraine will never join especially not when Russia is on her way to remerging as a global superpower.
    Ukraine and Georgia

    The right to self determination and some of these wants to move away from the Russian sphere
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    Re: T08 - Treaty of Accession for Georgia
    (Original post by tehFrance)
    Disprove me or shut up.
    Mr Speaker, it is a sign of a losing man when he starts to use such unparliamentary language. I ask the Rt Honourable Gentleman once again to provide latest evidence or withdraw his comment.
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    Re: T08 - Treaty of Accession for Georgia
    Has the debate in this House honestly degenerated to 'You shut up' 'No you shut up' or similar statements?
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    Mr Speaker, I should have provided those links earlier in this debate on the Accession Treaty to inform people of the relations between the European Union and Georgia. I hope Honourable Members will look at these links and if possible change their vote if they are convinced.
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    (Original post by toronto353)
    Has the debate in this House honestly degenerated to 'You shut up' 'No you shut up' or similar statements?
    I have Amy Childs on the brain, shut up

    Thank you so much
    Last edited by Morgsie; 01-08-2012 at 01:57.
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    Re: T08 - Treaty of Accession for Georgia
    (Original post by Morgsie)
    I have Amy Childs on the brain.
    Well I wouldn't go quite that far, but it's getting there.
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    Re: T08 - Treaty of Accession for Georgia
    (Original post by toronto353)
    Has the debate in this House honestly degenerated to 'You shut up' 'No you shut up' or similar statements?
    Mr Speaker, I would like to remind the Foreign Secretary that a member of his government has made a damaging accusation regarding Georgia. On several occasions the Environment Sec has been asked now to provide evidence for his claim. He has failed to do so and instead has resorted to using unparliamentary language. This is unacceptable. Either the Environment Secretary provides latest evidence for his claim or withdraws his damaging comment about a close partner of this country.
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    Re: T08 - Treaty of Accession for Georgia
    (Original post by Keckers)
    I accidentally voted yes apparently. Could this be changed to no please? Sorry for the inconvenience.
    Amended. :yy:
  19. tehFrance's Avatar
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    Re: T08 - Treaty of Accession for Georgia
    (Original post by eff01)
    A close partner of this country.
    I wouldn't consider Georgia a close partner at all. You have yet to disprove me, if you can disprove my statements then I shall withdraw my accusations but alas you have not as you know that Georgia are harbouring terrorists, especially as Georgia is close to Sochi the Winter Olympic grounds where a recent planned attack has been discovered by Chechen's that had ties to Georgia (all news agencies).
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    Re: T08 - Treaty of Accession for Georgia
    Mr Speaker, we must not allow a nation with a GDP per capita below the global average to join at this moment. Georgia is simply not developed enough.

    http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=gg&v=67
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