Why do the USA Government care about the UK?

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  1. Miracle Day's Avatar
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    Why do the USA Government care about the UK?
    The title is really crappy because I couldn't think of how to word it.

    I see American candidates like Obama and Ron Paul who come out saying they really value the relationship between both countries and the "American foreign policy affirms its relationship with the United Kingdom as its most important bilateral relationship."

    I just wondered why? I mean there are so many other more powerful, richer nations. Is it a historical thing?
  2. g_star_raw_1989's Avatar
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    Re: Why do the USA Government care about the UK?
    The US only care about anything when it serves their interests and they have bilateral relations with many other nations. Whilst there may have been a 'specialness' to the relationship in the past it is definitely waning which is a good thing in my opinion.
  3. Ladyliesel's Avatar
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    Re: Why do the USA Government care about the UK?
    Both countries have huge interests in each other, for example the US is the Uk’s biggest export market. It’s essential to the economies to preserve this. I think history accounts for why the UK and US seek each other as allies. Seeing as England did control colonies once and they were allies during World Wars. They also have more in common than other nations e.g. language, legal system, overall culture, etc. The US has more in common in this sense than Japan for instance. It could be out of habit. There’s not a particular, immediate reason to terminate the relationship so it keeps the peace.
  4. SillyEddy's Avatar
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    Re: Why do the USA Government care about the UK?
    We've been longstanding allies, after they fought us off their soil and claimed their own country. A lot of money goes between the countries too - We're buying a crapload of their aircraft and military products, and I think they're getting some of our fleet of old Harriers.


    I think we're just generally reliable, with a trustworthy history and similar goals. We're rarely part of any major concern, so they have a solid trust in us.
  5. Muscovite's Avatar
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    Re: Why do the USA Government care about the UK?
    (Original post by Miracle Day)
    The title is really crappy because I couldn't think of how to word it.

    I see American candidates like Obama and Ron Paul who come out saying they really value the relationship between both countries and the "American foreign policy affirms its relationship with the United Kingdom as its most important bilateral relationship."

    I just wondered why? I mean there are so many other more powerful, richer nations. Is it a historical thing?
    You couldn't stretch your imagination to write 'American government'?
  6. Aspiringlawstudent's Avatar
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    Re: Why do the USA Government care about the UK?
    They don't, really - and our government isn't too fussed about them, either.
  7. Miracle Day's Avatar
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    Re: Why do the USA Government care about the UK?
    (Original post by Muscovite)
    You couldn't stretch your imagination to write 'American government'?
    What's your point? Do you have anything to offer to the thread instead of fishing for rep?
  8. Norton1's Avatar
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    Re: Why do the USA Government care about the UK?
    (Original post by Muscovite)
    You couldn't stretch your imagination to write 'American government'?
    Not actually called the American government, it's the government of the United States of America.
  9. cid's Avatar
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    Re: Why do the USA Government care about the UK?
    Because British scientists have been vital to the development of top secret tactical nuclear weapons that can be used in small scale precision assaults that leave little trace, it is a joint scheme that involves the two countries, if they decided to no longer keep it as a joint scheme either party could distribute information on the weapon to 3rd parties which would take away the tactical edge that these allies have with such an advanced weapon.



    Or you know, because their the biggest kid in the playground and we're like their Millhouse.
  10. Muscovite's Avatar
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    (Original post by Norton1)
    Not actually called the American government, it's the government of the United States of America.
    Actually you're wrong - It's the 'Federal Government of the United States'


    totally irrelevant anyway - the point is American government is more lexically pleasing to say than USA government
  11. Nick100's Avatar
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    Re: Why do the USA Government care about the UK?
    (Original post by Miracle Day)
    The title is really crappy because I couldn't think of how to word it.

    I see American candidates like Obama and Ron Paul who come out saying they really value the relationship between both countries and the "American foreign policy affirms its relationship with the United Kingdom as its most important bilateral relationship."

    I just wondered why? I mean there are so many other more powerful, richer nations. Is it a historical thing?
    There are one or two more powerful (France and the UK switch often) nations, and about five or six wealthier (not including the USA) most of which have similar GDPs to the UK (China has a much higher GDP though). Two of those countries are Japan and Germany, both of which have had their militaries restricted for decades.
  12. Norton1's Avatar
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    Re: Why do the USA Government care about the UK?
    (Original post by Muscovite)
    Actually you're wrong - It's the 'Federal Government of the United States'

    totally irrelevant anyway - the point is American government is more lexically pleasing to say than USA government
    Actually you're wrong, I said it's not the government of America, it's the government of the United States of America. If I was giving it its proper title I would have capitalised "Government". Rather, I was referring to the country which it is the government of.

    See? You've got to learn to read properly.
  13. Muscovite's Avatar
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    Re: Why do the USA Government care about the UK?
    (Original post by Norton1)
    Actually you're wrong, I said it's not the government of America, it's the government of the United States of America. If I was giving it its proper title I would have capitalised "Government". Rather, I was referring to the country which it is the government of.

    See? You've got to learn to read properly.
    yeah; nice try... :rolleyes:
  14. tehFrance's Avatar
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    Re: Why do the USA Government care about the UK?
    (Original post by Ladyliesel)
    Both countries have huge interests in each other, for example the US is the Uk’s biggest export market.
    The European Union (Euro market) is Britain's biggest export market followed by the USA and even then the US is tiny in comparison to the European Union (Euro) market.
  15. Sheep's Avatar
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    Re: Why do the USA Government care about the UK?
    isn't it obvious?

    we probably have more in common than any other 2 countries out there

    we formed/colonized USA so they are very genetically similar and we both speak English as prime language

    also we both team up for war on terror

    etc
  16. Norton1's Avatar
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    Re: Why do the USA Government care about the UK?
    (Original post by Sheep)
    we formed/colonized USA so they are very genetically similar and we both speak English as prime language
    You're also between 96% and 98% genetically the same as a chimpanzee. I'm not sure that's a good reason to form a geopolitical relationship with them.
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    Re: Why do the USA Government care about the UK?
    (Original post by Miracle Day)
    The title is really crappy because I couldn't think of how to word it.

    I see American candidates like Obama and Ron Paul who come out saying they really value the relationship between both countries and the "American foreign policy affirms its relationship with the United Kingdom as its most important bilateral relationship."

    I just wondered why? I mean there are so many other more powerful, richer nations. Is it a historical thing?
    Who exactly are the more powerful allies of the US?
    Last edited by Foghorn Leghorn; 29-07-2012 at 20:42.
  18. Foghorn Leghorn's Avatar
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    Re: Why do the USA Government care about the UK?
    Firsrly the yanks take as much interest in the uk as the do in france as they are both permanent members of the UN security council and the only permanent members of the council that are allies of the usa.

    Secondly the both the uk and france are the two most powerful nations in nato next to the usa meaning we are their most powerful ally. A worthy asset to have and no future president is willing to change that for the forseeing future.
  19. ukip72's Avatar
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    Re: Why do the USA Government care about the UK?
    There aren't many more powerful countries than the UK and anyway Obama doesn't value any sort of link with the UK, he's made it clear he hates this country.
    Last edited by ukip72; 29-07-2012 at 20:51.
  20. pol pot noodles's Avatar
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    Re: Why do the USA Government care about the UK?
    (Original post by Miracle Day)
    I just wondered why? I mean there are so many other more powerful, richer nations. Is it a historical thing?
    Really? Are there? Come on, really, there's like five other nations richer than us (excluding America), and only a debatable few others that could challenge our military, diplomatic and cultural clout. This constant self-deprecating is starting to get annoying. Yes, we no longer have an empire, but that doesn't change the fact that the UK is not small, it is not poor, it is not weak, it is not irrelevant and it is not a third-rate power.
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