[Odessa]

1.
Job 12:12
Wisdom belongs to the aged, and understanding to the old. (NLT)
What is the difference between "the aged" & "the old"?



2.
Proverbs 12:18
Reckless words pierce like a sword, but the tongue of the wise brings healing. (NIV)
A paraphrase is needed





Thanks in advance!

[MorrisseyForever]

The second one means that people being nasty will hurt you or viceverca but listening to wise people will help you feel better. That's in very simple terms ha


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[miser]

(Original post by alex5455)
i can sum up the entire bible for you, this is a ground breaking concept here,


fiction

Well for starters, the proverbs he's asking about don't fall under the category of fiction. But even then, are you saying fictional works can't have literary merit worth thinking about?

[.eXe]

Hey the first verse is speaking of the same people; just using different words. There is no difference between the old and the aged.

If you check out some other bible versions you will find it translated slightly differently (in sentence structure) but the meaning will become much clearer:

Have a look here: http://bible.cc/job/12-12.htm

And it basically just identifies what we usually attribute to age: wisdom and understanding.

[AhzhaK]

(Original post by Odessa)
1.
Job 12:12
Wisdom belongs to the aged, and understanding to the old. (NLT)
What is the difference between "the aged" & "the old"?



2.
Proverbs 12:18
Reckless words pierce like a sword, but the tongue of the wise brings healing. (NIV)
A paraphrase is needed

Thanks in advance!

1. I think its just two different words for the same people, showing they have both wisdom and understanding, but a nice way of saying. "Physical prowess belongs to the sportsman, and fitness to the athlete". So think of them as the same people.

2.Careless insults are damaging, but constructive criticism is useful?

[Odessa]

Thank you all for your quick replies and satisfactory answers. May God bless you understanding!

.................

"Love your neighbor"

I think the word "neighbor" is repeated in the Holy Bible in different positions. Does it mean those who live near to you or what?

[KnapAttackUK]

(Original post by Odessa)
1.
Job 12:12
Wisdom belongs to the aged, and understanding to the old. (NLT)
What is the difference between "the aged" & "the old"?



2.
Proverbs 12:18
Reckless words pierce like a sword, but the tongue of the wise brings healing. (NIV)
A paraphrase is needed



Thanks in advance!

1. I always felt that the aged were those who had lived through a lot, whereas the old simply those who had lived for a long time

2. "Speaking without thinking causes pain to others, but words spoken after consideration only ever help"

And Jesus explained who neighbours were in one of his stories.

(BTW, I might be completely wrong here)

[Odessa]

(Original post by MorrisseyForever)
The second one means that people being nasty will hurt you or viceverca but listening to wise people will help you feel better. That's in very simple terms ha


This was posted from The Student Room's iPhone/iPad App

Great!

[Odessa]

(Original post by AhzhaK)
1. I think its just two different words for the same people, showing they have both wisdom and understanding, but a nice way of saying. "Physical prowess belongs to the sportsman, and fitness to the athlete". So think of them as the same people.

2.Careless insults are damaging, but constructive criticism is useful?

Excellent!

Careless insults are damaging, but constructive criticism is useful?

Yes, you are right. I am very pleased. Thank you!

[Odessa]

Much appreciated for your comment!

(Original post by .eXe)
just using different words. There is no difference between the old and the aged.

In other words, two sides of the same coin, is not it?

[.eXe]

(Original post by Odessa)
Much appreciated for your comment!

In other words, two sides of the same coin, is not it?

No problem! Hmm, not quite. More like, the same side on two different coins.

[Odessa]

"You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come up with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to." -- C. S. Lewis



That in the following quotation "He has not left that open to us." refers to what?



Thanks in advance!

[NJA]

(Original post by Odessa)
"Love your neighbor"

I think the word "neighbor" is repeated in the Holy Bible in different positions. Does it mean those who live near to you or what?

In the parable of the Good Samaritan (Luke 10:29-37), the good neighbour is the one who treats the hurting person as it if was his/her neighbour.

The reference to pouring in oil and wine is the receiving of the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:4, 33, 39), the inn is the church.
If you have this and you minister this top people you are certainly loving people and being a good neighbour!

(Original post by Odessa)
"You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come up with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to." -- C. S. Lewis
That in the following quotation "He has not left that open to us." refers to what?

The conclusion that Jesus is just another teacher of good morals.
I don't know what Lewis is saying, but I think the point is that there are other teachers who tell us what to do & how to think to be better.

Jesus came to bring a new life, not turn over a new leaf!
He showed that we need to stop thinking we can attain to fulfilment by learning more, we need to repent, be baptised and receive His Spirit.

[.eXe]

(Original post by Odessa)
"You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come up with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to." -- C. S. Lewis



That in the following quotation "He has not left that open to us." refers to what?



Thanks in advance!

The word "that" in the quotation refers to our perception of Jesus; whether we may perceive him as a God or just as a moral teacher. Lewis argues that Jesus did not leave that choice to us because he himself made a CLAIM about his person.

He did not say: I have come here to say what I have to say...believe what you wish.

No.

He instead claimed divinity. Thus, we humans do not have the option of choosing whether to see Jesus as God or a great moral teacher. He IS God because he made the claim of it. Then he supported that claim with signs and miracles and teachings. If he is not God, then the only other thing he can be is a lunatic for making such a claim. He was not here to be a teacher of morality.

Edit: glad to see you're reading Mere Christianity. An excellent book.

[Odessa]

Do You Have to Clean Up Your Act to Become a Christian?


If we mean forming new habits, making amends, or doing something on our own to become good enough for God, the answer is "No." If we really mean recognizing the truth of who Jesus is and who we are, the answer is "Yes."


We learn from this that "act" means behaviors in the basic but in figurative meaning means "truth" , is not it?

Do correct me please!

[.eXe]

(Original post by Odessa)
Do You Have to Clean Up Your Act to Become a Christian?

If we mean forming new habits, making amends, or doing something on our own to become good enough for God, the answer is "No."

Why do you say No to this?

[Odessa]

(Original post by .eXe)
The word "that" in the quotation refers to our perception of Jesus; whether we may perceive him as a God or just as a moral teacher.

Great! Many thanks with all my heart!

[Odessa]

(Original post by .eXe)
Why do you say No to this?

For sure, I did not write it. I did find it at the following site. Here the link

http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/chu...x?option=print

[.eXe]

(Original post by Odessa)
For sure, I did not write it. I did find it at the following site. Here the link

http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/chu...x?option=print

Okay I see what she and you meant.

Towards the bottom of her essay she states that the man started the process of kicking their drug habits. So in a way, it was a change in habits and ideals, etc. But she's right that the first thing that must occur is an acceptance of Jesus as a saviour and a recognition of the truth in his message. The changing of one's self can come after that. I just misunderstood your wording. Thanks!

[NJA]

(Original post by Odessa)
Do You Have to Clean Up Your Act to Become a Christian?

If we mean forming new habits, making amends, or doing something on our own to become good enough for God, the answer is "No." If we really mean recognizing the truth of who Jesus is and who we are, the answer is "Yes."

We learn from this that "act" means behaviors in the basic but in figurative meaning means "truth" , is not it?

Do correct me please!

Odessa,

you will always have questions about God's will for you unless / until you receive His Spirit of truth, not rely on your own natural understanding.

A Christian is someone who has received the Holy Spirit because “Christ” or “Messiah” means “anointed one” and the anointing is the Holy Spirit:-
“ . . . you are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8v9)

This began at Pentecost, and continues the same today:
“ . . . they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. . . having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he has shed forth this, which you now SEE and HEAR. . . For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to ALL that are afar off, even AS MANY AS the Lord our God shall call.” (Acts 2v4, 33, 39)

That is the "born again" experience (John 3:3, 8)

If you don't do this, you will be:
"Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth" (2 Tim. 3:7)