[leemkule]

A family friend has recently stopped driving and is offering me their 1 series M Coupe for a pretty good price, gonna take a drive in it at some point this week. Was just wondering if any of you have any experience with this car or any thoughts?

Cheers!

[1992LP]

Is that the 1M coupe, or is it a regular 1 series with the M Sport pack? Crucial difference!

The 1M is an incredible machine, if I could afford one I would have one tomorrow.

The regular 1 series is meant to be very good too, but I would need to know what engine it had before I could advise you further

[leemkule]

(Original post by 1992LP)
Is that the 1M coupe, or is it a regular 1 series with the M Sport pack? Crucial difference!

The 1M is an incredible machine, if I could afford one I would have one tomorrow.

The regular 1 series is meant to be very good too, but I would need to know what engine it had before I could advise you further

Thanks for your reply! I'm talking the limited run 1 series M coupe as opposed to a 1 series with M styling etc. It's in great shape as it has been barely driven, it only has 2k on the clock. Checked insurance and I'm getting reasonable quotes about the £500 mark!

[usainlightning]

it's worth about £40k

[1992LP]

(Original post by leemkule)
I'm talking the limited run 1 series M coupe as opposed to a 1 series with M styling etc. It's in great shape as it has been barely driven, it only has 2k on the clock. Checked insurance and I'm getting reasonable quotes about the £500 mark!

If it is the proper M car, then go for it if you can! I would love one of them, it is nice to see a proper performance car with a manual gearbox and BMW's lovely straight 6 with 340 bhp

Do you have a garage? There is a problem at the moment of new BMWs getting stolen very easily in some big cities - Google will tell you all about it. Not trying to put you off at all, but they are not cheap cars and it is something you should be aware of.

If you do decide to get it, please post some photos! What colour is it?

[leemkule]

(Original post by usainlightning)
it's worth about £40k

I'm aware of the cost.

[usainlightning]

(Original post by leemkule)
I'm aware of the cost.

Respect for having that sort of disposable cash at 26. If you stetch your budget a bit further you could get an 07 R8. There are some insane cars you can get for £40k.

[leemkule]

(Original post by 1992LP)
If it is the proper M car, then go for it if you can! I would love one of them, it is nice to see a proper performance car with a manual gearbox and BMW's lovely straight 6 with 340 bhp

Do you have a garage? There is a problem at the moment of new BMWs getting stolen very easily in some big cities - Google will tell you all about it. Not trying to put you off at all, but they are not cheap cars and it is something you should be aware of.

If you do decide to get it, please post some photos! What colour is it?

That's what I'm worried about. I live in a flat to the west end of Glasgow and do not have access to a garage. Whilst the west end is a nice area with a low crime rate, not so far away there are areas with quite a lot of crime. Saw a video on youtube of a 1 series M Coupe being stolen in three minutes which is absolutely terrifying, is there any way to protect yourself from this? The family friends one is black. Was also looking at a dealer one in white with black alloys which also looks nice - but maybe a bit of an overdone colour combination at this point. :P Not a huge fan of the orange colour that was sold but I've yet to see it in person.

I've been holding fire on buying a car for ages now. Went through a phase of really fancying the cayman but then discovered the 981 is going to be revealed later this year. In typical porsche style I'm sure to get a nice spec cayman S will be over 50k, significantly more expensive than the 1m coupe! I'm just far too indecisive. When I do finally pull the trigger I can post pics for sure.

[leemkule]

(Original post by usainlightning)
Respect for having that sort of disposable cash at 26. If you stetch your budget a bit further you could get an 07 R8. There are some insane cars you can get for £40k.

Thanks. I was looking at R8's for a while but it's the never ending conundrum with cars. A decent 08 plate was 60k. I start looking at something fast but reasonably sensible, then keep thinking 'for a bit more I could buy X'. This cycle continues until I'm looking at a 458 and in dreamland.

[Herr]

The genuine 1M Coupe is by far the best M vehicle BMW released in recent times. Light and very nimble and finally a ESP program that can be completely switched off

I don't think very many were sold in UK as not many were produced RHD.

Hopefully it isn't in that obnoxious orange

[leemkule]

(Original post by Herr)
The genuine 1M Coupe is by far the best M vehicle BMW released in recent times. Light and very nimble and finally a ESP program that can be completely switched off

I don't think very many were sold in UK as not many were produced RHD.

Hopefully it isn't in that obnoxious orange

Yeah, the owner was going on about how great it was to drive. Do you think the limited run will help on residuals? I usually keep my cars for quite a long time. It's black! Thankfully.

[A.sniper]

(Original post by leemkule)
Thanks. I was looking at R8's for a while but it's the never ending conundrum with cars. A decent 08 plate was 60k. I start looking at something fast but reasonably sensible, then keep thinking 'for a bit more I could buy X'. This cycle continues until I'm looking at a 458 and in dreamland.

Remember the rear legroom is atrocious in bmw 1 series. I suggest a focus st or audi s3 as suitable alternatives?

[1992LP]

(Original post by leemkule)
That's what I'm worried about. I live in a flat to the west end of Glasgow and do not have access to a garage. Whilst the west end is a nice area with a low crime rate, not so far away there are areas with quite a lot of crime. Saw a video on youtube of a 1 series M Coupe being stolen in three minutes which is absolutely terrifying, is there any way to protect yourself from this? The family friends one is black. Was also looking at a dealer one in white with black alloys which also looks nice - but maybe a bit of an overdone colour combination at this point. :P Not a huge fan of the orange colour that was sold but I've yet to see it in person.

I've been holding fire on buying a car for ages now. Went through a phase of really fancying the cayman but then discovered the 981 is going to be revealed later this year. In typical porsche style I'm sure to get a nice spec cayman S will be over 50k, significantly more expensive than the 1m coupe! I'm just far too indecisive. When I do finally pull the trigger I can post pics for sure.

Is renting a garage an option? I am not aware how prevalent the problem is in Scotland (you have seen the same video I have), most of the stolen ones have been from England from what I have seen. Here is some more info:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...blank+BMW+keys

I would definitely go for a 1M over a Cayman, nothing against the Porsche but BMW M cars are just fantastic considering the outlay. Can't say I am a fan of white with black alloys - if I was in your position I would be getting the orange one (looks great in the flesh) or a black one like you are looking at. Still, if someone gave me a white one I certainly wouldn't be complaining!

I know exactly what you mean about being indecisive about buying cars (although not quite on an M car!), I always start looking at one car, then before I know it I am pushing the budget further and further and end up buying something completely different!

Residuals are very strong on the 1M, and they don't hang about for long so it won't be hard to sell and you won't loose much money on it.

As for an S3 or a Focus ST, nice cars, but not even close to being in the same league!

If you want legroom, you need an E90 / E92 M3

[Herr]

(Original post by leemkule)
Yeah, the owner was going on about how great it was to drive. Do you think the limited run will help on residuals? I usually keep my cars for quite a long time. It's black! Thankfully.

Generally most BMWs have good residuals, but the 1M is doing exceptionally well at the moment.... hence if there is a good deal on one I'll be very very careful as it might be the fuel pump giving problems...... quite a few has been reported in Germany.

[1992LP]

(Original post by Herr)
Generally most BMWs have good residuals, but the 1M is doing exceptionally well at the moment.... hence if there is a good deal on one I'll be very very careful as it might be the fuel pump giving problems...... quite a few has been reported in Germany.

Surely with them all being so new, they would still be covered by the warranty?

I wasn't aware of the fuel pump issue, are BMW issuing a recall?

[leemkule]

(Original post by 1992LP)
Is renting a garage an option? I am not aware how prevalent the problem is in Scotland (you have seen the same video I have), most of the stolen ones have been from England from what I have seen. Here is some more info:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...blank+BMW+keys

I would definitely go for a 1M over a Cayman, nothing against the Porsche but BMW M cars are just fantastic considering the outlay. Can't say I am a fan of white with black alloys - if I was in your position I would be getting the orange one (looks great in the flesh) or a black one like you are looking at. Still, if someone gave me a white one I certainly wouldn't be complaining!

I know exactly what you mean about being indecisive about buying cars (although not quite on an M car!), I always start looking at one car, then before I know it I am pushing the budget further and further and end up buying something completely different!

Residuals are very strong on the 1M, and they don't hang about for long so it won't be hard to sell and you won't loose much money on it.

As for an S3 or a Focus ST, nice cars, but not even close to being in the same league!

If you want legroom, you need an E90 / E92 M3

Renting a garage wouldn't be an option, all the houses round here are old victorian houses converted into flat and only very few have garages which I would imagine would be occupied. To store it in a garage it'd be too impractical as it'd be far away! Surely there must be something that can be done to prevent such a seemingly easy way to steal these cars? If there's not I fear i'd be constantly worried. I only have on street parking, I can see it from my window but that's hardly rock solid security.

Any particular reason why you wouldn't take the porsche?

It's a pain isn't it, with the whole indecisiveness, you start off at a price and you just keep adding more and before you know it you're thousands and thousands over what you originally intended to spend. It's madness! I wonder how long it would be wise to keep a 1M coupe regarding resale value. I tend to get attached to my cars so keep them for years!

I agree with your comments on the focus ST and s3 mentioned by the previous poster, I don't really like any audis anymore apart from the R8 and the focus...well my mum drives a focus. Admittedly not the ST, but still. Regarding rear leg room I'm not bothered. I rarely need to take more than one passenger, I wouldn't mind if a car was two seats!

[leemkule]

(Original post by Herr)
Generally most BMWs have good residuals, but the 1M is doing exceptionally well at the moment.... hence if there is a good deal on one I'll be very very careful as it might be the fuel pump giving problems...... quite a few has been reported in Germany.

Is this a renowned problem? Do you know how common it is? What sort of repair bill is that type of issue? This is a lifelong family friend who I fully trust. It's worth knowing about though if it is a problem that could strike on any car. They are only selling it as they had a seizure so had to give up driving for now and didn't want to just have it sitting doing nothing. Sad story really.

[Herr]

(Original post by 1992LP)
Surely with them all being so new, they would still be covered by the warranty?

I wasn't aware of the fuel pump issue, are BMW issuing a recall?

That engine in particular has been well known to have issues with the fuel pump, at first BMW thought it was only affecting cars in the US market where they had a "goodwill" buyback scheme for cars affected, many 335i, 535i, X6 and the 135i were subjected to this buyback or if the customer opted a replacement and then a 10y/150k warranty on the pump. They blamed it on the gasoline in US being "dirty" but now there are plenty of cases being reported in Germany and Austria where a lot of cars have a variant of these engines, UK is also having some a few of these problems though at this moment it isn't wide-spread.

No recall in UK or EU or Switzerland on for the purpose of these pumps. As for being replaced under warranty, dealers in Switzerland are being told to find for traces that the car has run any type of bio-fuel.... the moment such traces exist then it is supposed to be out of pocket though most dealers will quietly replace it on a goodwill basis as they rather have a happy client than a happy BMW AG.

(Original post by leemkule)
Is this a renowned problem? Do you know how common it is? What sort of repair bill is that type of issue? This is a lifelong family friend who I fully trust. It's worth knowing about though if it is a problem that could strike on any car. They are only selling it as they had a seizure so had to give up driving for now and didn't want to just have it sitting doing nothing. Sad story really.

See above. I am told it isn't common yet in UK, but from there are around 30 known cases in Zurich alone and I can tell you that the stats, 1 in every 3000 1 series sold is a 135i, 1 in every 900 3 series sold is a 335i in Switzerland... it is more frequent with the 5, 7 and X6 so it isn't all that common an engine but to have 30 cases in just Zurich alone suggests that it is quite a widespread problem.

That fuel pump CHF3500 from a dealer in Switzerland, note that this is before any diagnostics, labour, sundries and taxes are included. Not sure how much a UK dealer would charge for this work there.

The problem is it can indeed strike any car as with any high pressure pump they do fail, but the good thing to this is the pump going won't leave you stranded by the road, it will show a CEL, it can still be driven but it won't be as powerful.

If you believe the car is a genuine one, then by all means go for it, you won't regret buying this car but just make sure when it approaches closer to 3 years you extend the warranty on it for peace of mind purposes.

[Nice.Guy]

(Original post by A.sniper)
Remember the rear legroom is atrocious in bmw 1 series. I suggest a focus st or audi s3 as suitable alternatives?

woah. you're putting the Audi S3 and Focus ST in the same sentence as the 1 series M?? dude, the 1M is miles out of their league, it's edging on supercar territory . . . the audi and ford are 'just' hot hatches


OP, i reckon once you get a drive of it you should know - technically, it is an amazing car, just depends whether you actually want one or not

[Herr]

(Original post by A.sniper)
Remember the rear legroom is atrocious in bmw 1 series. I suggest a focus st or audi s3 as suitable alternatives?

The Focus ST or the S3 isn't in the same league as the 1M.

The competitor for this car is the Audi RS3. I don't think after owning this car I could recommend one in good conscience.