[leemkule]

(Original post by Herr)
That engine in particular has been well known to have issues with the fuel pump, at first BMW thought it was only affecting cars in the US market where they had a "goodwill" buyback scheme for cars affected, many 335i, 535i, X6 and the 135i were subjected to this buyback or if the customer opted a replacement and then a 10y/150k warranty on the pump. They blamed it on the gasoline in US being "dirty" but now there are plenty of cases being reported in Germany and Austria where a lot of cars have a variant of these engines, UK is also having some a few of these problems though at this moment it isn't wide-spread.

No recall in UK or EU or Switzerland on for the purpose of these pumps. As for being replaced under warranty, dealers in Switzerland are being told to find for traces that the car has run any type of bio-fuel.... the moment such traces exist then it is supposed to be out of pocket though most dealers will quietly replace it on a goodwill basis as they rather have a happy client than a happy BMW AG.



See above. I am told it isn't common yet in UK, but from there are around 30 known cases in Zurich alone and I can tell you that the stats, 1 in every 3000 1 series sold is a 135i, 1 in every 900 3 series sold is a 335i in Switzerland... it is more frequent with the 5, 7 and X6 so it isn't all that common an engine but to have 30 cases in just Zurich alone suggests that it is quite a widespread problem.

That fuel pump CHF3500 from a dealer in Switzerland, note that this is before any diagnostics, labour, sundries and taxes are included. Not sure how much a UK dealer would charge for this work there.

The problem is it can indeed strike any car as with any high pressure pump they do fail, but the good thing to this is the pump going won't leave you stranded by the road, it will show a CEL, it can still be driven but it won't be as powerful.

If you believe the car is a genuine one, then by all means go for it, you won't regret buying this car but just make sure when it approaches closer to 3 years you extend the warranty on it for peace of mind purposes.

Thanks for the heads up, I have quite a good relationship with my BMW dealer so I think if the worst were to happen with regards to the fuel pump they'd do it under warranty. I'm glad you mentioned it and I'll read more into the matter. I'm still very worried about this security issue, I've yet to find a real solution to the problem. I'll definitely extend the warranty when the time comes if I do go ahead and buy it.

(Original post by Herr)
The Focus ST or the S3 isn't in the same league as the 1M.

The competitor for this car is the Audi RS3. I don't think after owning this car I could recommend one in good conscience.

Out of interest, why wouldn't you recommend the RS3?

[CurlyBen]

(Original post by leemkule)
Renting a garage wouldn't be an option, all the houses round here are old victorian houses converted into flat and only very few have garages which I would imagine would be occupied. To store it in a garage it'd be too impractical as it'd be far away! Surely there must be something that can be done to prevent such a seemingly easy way to steal these cars? If there's not I fear i'd be constantly worried. I only have on street parking, I can see it from my window but that's hardly rock solid security.

If you're that worried you could have a tracker fitted. It won't stop the car being stolen (but then any car can be stolen by a determined enough thief - the most complicated immobiliser in the world won't stop a truck with a HIAB, for example) but you should get it back and it'll probably knock a bit off your insurance too.

[clad in armour]

(Original post by A.sniper)
Remember the rear legroom is atrocious in bmw 1 series. I suggest a focus st or audi s3 as suitable alternatives?

da*** did I just read,

he said a 1M with an emphasis on the M.... with 2k on the clock not a civic type r

[FXX]

Cracking car. I think there's only one major thing you need to be careful of, and it applies to all new BMWs: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...21571&d=0&nmt=

[Herr]

(Original post by leemkule)
Thanks for the heads up, I have quite a good relationship with my BMW dealer so I think if the worst were to happen with regards to the fuel pump they'd do it under warranty. I'm glad you mentioned it and I'll read more into the matter. I'm still very worried about this security issue, I've yet to find a real solution to the problem. I'll definitely extend the warranty when the time comes if I do go ahead and buy it.

Out of interest, why wouldn't you recommend the RS3?

Well if you have good relationship with your BMW dealer, get them to give a once-over look into that 1M.... most of them would do it for FOC for their regular clients and if the car in question is one that they regularly maintain then they could probably tell you if it has or had any issues.

As for the RS3, it is one of those cars that are good everyday cars you can live with that goes really fast but that's about it. When compared against the 1M it is no where near as fun to drive plus it does feel heavy and on most powerful cars, you can see the fuel level going down when you floor it, on the RS3, not just do you see your fuel level going down, as you get on you can start feeling your brakes and tyres going as well...... that car did love rubbers even more than a Subaru Imprezza WRX STi and strangely for an Audi it's tolerance for tyre wear was extremely poor, once the tyres start going you do feel the handling change.

End of the day, unless you live in a country like Switzerland or Norway or an area with lots of mountains with plenty of heavy snowfall and ice, the 1M is a better car to buy as an everyday usable fun car.

[1992LP]

(Original post by FXX)
Cracking car. I think there's only one major thing you need to be careful of, and it applies to all new BMWs: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...21571&d=0&nmt=

Are you a member of PH?

[FXX]

(Original post by 1992LP)
Are you a member of PH?

I am I'm mostly a lurker though...

[1992LP]

(Original post by leemkule)
Renting a garage wouldn't be an option, all the houses round here are old victorian houses converted into flat and only very few have garages which I would imagine would be occupied. To store it in a garage it'd be too impractical as it'd be far away! Surely there must be something that can be done to prevent such a seemingly easy way to steal these cars? If there's not I fear i'd be constantly worried. I only have on street parking, I can see it from my window but that's hardly rock solid security.

Any particular reason why you wouldn't take the porsche?

It's a pain isn't it, with the whole indecisiveness, you start off at a price and you just keep adding more and before you know it you're thousands and thousands over what you originally intended to spend. It's madness! I wonder how long it would be wise to keep a 1M coupe regarding resale value. I tend to get attached to my cars so keep them for years!

I agree with your comments on the focus ST and s3 mentioned by the previous poster, I don't really like any audis anymore apart from the R8 and the focus...well my mum drives a focus. Admittedly not the ST, but still. Regarding rear leg room I'm not bothered. I rarely need to take more than one passenger, I wouldn't mind if a car was two seats!

I can't say I know any way to protect the cars besides leaving it in a garage, if you have a quick flick through that thread on PH you may find something. I haven't read it all.

Nothing wrong with the Porsche at all, I just really like M cars, and I think they represent excellent value for money all things considered

Oh I know, I intended to buy something sensible and cheap to last me through university, and ended up with a BMW 328i! I did justify it to myself, just

The 1M will always sell well as they are in great demand and they are in limited supply, so I wouldn't worry too much about residual values. Obviously you won't get your entire sum of money back after 3 or 4 years, but compared to other things out there you will do very well.

Sounds like the 1M is ideal for you, I say go for it! Not everyone gets the opportunity to even drive one of these beasts

[1992LP]

(Original post by FXX)
I am I'm mostly a lurker though...

Interesting, I am a fairly regular poster over there

[FXX]

(Original post by 1992LP)
Interesting, I am a fairly regular poster over there

I would probably post more if I could afford some of the flash cars everyone seems to have there

[1992LP]

(Original post by FXX)
I would probably post more if I could afford some of the flash cars everyone seems to have there

Plenty of folk on there like me who have modest cars! It is a great forum

What do you drive?

[FXX]

(Original post by 1992LP)
Plenty of folk on there like me who have modest cars! It is a great forum

What do you drive?

I'm sure there are, but it seems like everyone there drives an Aston Martin or a BMW M-car of some description

I drive a Mk4 Golf GTI, but it's the 2.0l 8v one so not really a hot car What about you? Have you ever been to the Sunday Services? Hopefully I'll have an R32 next year so I might turn up to some then...

It's a great forum, but it's one of those places where the interesting threads get pretty big pretty quickly, so chances are your post just gets glossed over anyway. There are some great reads, though.

[1992LP]

(Original post by FXX)
I'm sure there are, but it seems like everyone there drives an Aston Martin or a BMW M-car of some description

I drive a Mk4 Golf GTI, but it's the 2.0l 8v one so not really a hot car What about you? Have you ever been to the Sunday Services? Hopefully I'll have an R32 next year so I might turn up to some then...

It's a great forum, but it's one of those places where the interesting threads get pretty big pretty quickly, so chances are your post just gets glossed over anyway. There are some great reads, though.

There are a lot of nice motors on there, that is for sure! Nothing wrong with that, and an R32 would be fantastic - one of them overtook me recently and it sounded incredible

I drive a 1998 E46 328i, hardly anything spectacular

I am from the Scottish Highlands so no Sunday Services up here, although there is a thread about trying to get one up my way. I went on a run recently with the Aberdeen lot and it was a really good day, lots of stunning cars but it really didn't matter what you turned up in. It is a fantastic community and I would really recommend it

Here is the thread for the run I went on, lots of nice photos from this page onwards and a video in there too

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...een&mid=242559

[leemkule]

(Original post by 1992LP)
I can't say I know any way to protect the cars besides leaving it in a garage, if you have a quick flick through that thread on PH you may find something. I haven't read it all.

Nothing wrong with the Porsche at all, I just really like M cars, and I think they represent excellent value for money all things considered

Oh I know, I intended to buy something sensible and cheap to last me through university, and ended up with a BMW 328i! I did justify it to myself, just

The 1M will always sell well as they are in great demand and they are in limited supply, so I wouldn't worry too much about residual values. Obviously you won't get your entire sum of money back after 3 or 4 years, but compared to other things out there you will do very well.

Sounds like the 1M is ideal for you, I say go for it! Not everyone gets the opportunity to even drive one of these beasts

Yeah cheers for the link I read a lot of that thread, seems that people are either relocating the ODB socket or deactivating it and fitting a tracker. Apparently BMW aren't accepting responsibility and the dealers aren't helping at all. One claims that a firmware update solved it but others seem dubious how legitimate that is.

I know what you mean regarding M cars, I've always quite fancied owning one. Since the 1M had a limited run I should imagine the demand will remain steady! It does sound like a great car, now I just need to drive it. Apart from a few test drives and a brief stint in a few friends cars I've never owned anything as powerful so I'll have to check out if I can handle it. :P

[A.sniper]

(Original post by clad in armour)
da*** did I just read,

he said a 1M with an emphasis on the M.... with 2k on the clock not a civic type r

oops! Yeh the M version is cool. All BMW M's are cool....really wish they would make a M7 though.

[leemkule]

(Original post by 1992LP)
..

Getting my car MOT'd today and randomly there's a 1M sitting here! It's a customer car though so I can't get inside it but it actually looks so much better in person, the pictures don't do it justice imo, this one is in white with the standard 1M alloys!

[1992LP]

(Original post by leemkule)
Getting my car MOT'd today and randomly there's a 1M sitting here! It's a customer car though so I can't get inside it but it actually looks so much better in person, the pictures don't do it justice imo, this one is in white with the standard 1M alloys!

Small world eh? They do look great in person, the big arches and quad exhausts really set it apart from the normal 1 series. I like the white ones, just not a fan of black alloys

Sounds like you need to go and have a go in one! They have a lot of power, but the beauty of the M cars is when you drive them normally (well, the E92 M3 I drove) they feel like any other car so having all that power under your right foot isn't really a problem.

What car do you drive at the moment?

[Nice.Guy]

(Original post by A.sniper)
oops! Yeh the M version is cool. All BMW M's are cool....really wish they would make a M7 though.

the 760Li is close enough - V12 engine, acceleration of 4.6 seconds or something ridiculous, even got the trademark 4 exhausts - all of which is M series standard tbh...

[NOBODY MOVE!]

(Original post by FXX)
:O

(Original post by 1992LP)
:O

more pistonheads members :O

......

[kratos90]

Maybe you should put the 40 grand towards a house with a garage?