[whyumadtho]

(Original post by Foo.mp3)
10,000,000; this figure is a large number

How did you arrive at it?

It's a problem where the impact is that one ends up with increasingly disconnected segments of society ~ misunderstanding/mistrust/friction, and where social/economic outcomes then persist through generations as a function of that concentrating effect

It's when people attribute names to these social processes and accentuate/reify the differences and pretermit the similarities. This is why multiculturalism is seen as a novel phenomenon, despite this society being socioculturally heterogeneous since time immemorial.

Nobody feels misunderstanding/mistrust/friction about the native Britons who have different tastes in music, food, dress, etc./those who are not friends or acquaintances; this only seems to occur when non-native Britons are concerned because they are labelled as being "foreign" or "different".

Most of us don't mind diversity, it's where people concentrate, segregate, and isolate themselves/other members of their communities for whatever reason/along whatever lines that we envisage problems such as those noted above

All of these things already happen. I don't randomly speak to people on the street and I have a very limited friendship/social group (like we all do). Being proximate to somebody doesn't mean you have to speak to them; why does this expectation suddenly become so powerful when non-native Britons are concerned?

Not sure where all this friendship stuff is coming from? This isn't about being a good pal, it's about being a good citizen

Friendship group/social group—the people with whom you communicate.

We haven't finished exploring the different systems of governance out there but yes it's the 'least worst' solution currently available to us

And people value it greatly.

Social preferences are fine, until those social preferences begin to manifest as innately antisocial; at this point they become deleterious for people on both sides of these nascent divides

Everyone's innately antisocial because nobody makes an active and persistent attempt to speak to everyone they see. Everyone has a limited and specific friendship/social group that is comprised of those who are socially/psychologically similar.

[Vortexbubbles]

(Original post by NB_ide)
Hey, why don't you go and talk about this to your friend Adolf? My bus driver is an Asian man so without immigration I couldn't get to work in the morning. What then?

I have just systematically torn down your entire world view. You're welcome.

A white british born person would have his job. If anyone is racist it is you NB_ide you are racist against white people(The Majority) for speaking out against "upcoming" mass-immigration of minoritys which form "multicultrialism". Or your just a troll.

I should note that the british public never wanted multicultrialism it was forced upon it and now it's taboo for the most part to speak about it even though most economic and social issues are caused by it.

[democracyforum]

(Original post by whyumadtho)
How did you arrive at it?

It's when people attribute names to these social processes and accentuate/reify the differences and pretermit the similarities. This is why multiculturalism is seen as a novel phenomenon, despite this society being socioculturally heterogeneous since time immemorial.

Nobody feels misunderstanding/mistrust/friction about the native Britons who have different tastes in music, food, dress, etc./those who are not friends or acquaintances; this only seems to occur when non-native Britons are concerned because they are labelled as being "foreign" or "different".

All of these things already happen. I don't randomly speak to people on the street and I have a very limited friendship/social group (like we all do). Being proximate to somebody doesn't mean you have to speak to them; why does this expectation suddenly become so powerful when non-native Britons are concerned?

Friendship group/social group—the people with whom you communicate.

And people value it greatly.

Everyone's innately antisocial because nobody makes an active and persistent attempt to speak to everyone they see. Everyone has a limited and specific friendship/social group that is comprised of those who are socially/psychologically similar.

Why do you ignore the fact that ethnic based organisations exist ?

[whyumadtho]

(Original post by democracyforum)
Why do you ignore the fact that ethnic based organisations exist ?

We have already been through this. If you need to refresh your memory you should refer to the other thread.

[Formerly Helpful_C]

I'm pleased to see that some users agree with my line of thinking and have managed to expand on what I posted. Call it refreshing, but maybe there is hope yet.

[Imperial_Maniac]

(Original post by NB_ide)
Hey, why don't you go and talk about this to your friend Adolf? My bus driver is an Asian man so without immigration I couldn't get to work in the morning. What then?

I have just systematically torn down your entire world view. You're welcome.

You clearly have lost your grip on reality. Make a point that actually makes sense and maybe I'll get back to you.

[Formerly Helpful_C]

I have a "ton" of pictures already. I've counted 8 (eight) niqabs so far.

[whyumadtho]

(Original post by Formerly Helpful_C)
I have a "ton" of pictures already. I've counted 8 (eight) niqabs so far.

What's the problem?

[Formerly Helpful_C]

(Original post by whyumadtho)
What's the problem?

I promised that I would post proof of the Islamic takeover.

[confusedexcited]

(Original post by Formerly Helpful_C)
I have a "ton" of pictures already. I've counted 8 (eight) niqabs so far.

Hang on, what's the issue, muslims or brown people? Would a group of white, English muslims provoke as violent a response?

[whyumadtho]

(Original post by Formerly Helpful_C)
I promised that I would post proof of the Islamic takeover.

...Right.

I'm not even going to bother.

[A Mysterious Lord]

(Original post by confusedexcited)
Hang on, what's the issue, muslims or brown people? Would a group of white, English muslims provoke as violent a response?

I wouldn't have said either were an issue per se but there is a cultural division that the burka/niqab highlights.

As for the post about a supposed 'Islamic takeover', I'm not even going to waste my time

[confusedexcited]

(Original post by A Mysterious Lord)
I wouldn't have said either were an issue per se but there is a cultural division that the burka/niqab highlights.

As for the post about a supposed 'Islamic takeover', I'm not even going to waste my time

Eh, I think it's easy to overemphasie the cultural division signified by the niqab/burqa, it's no more signficicant than the division between tracksuit and suit wearing men.

And there quite clearly is an Islamic take over. I mean, 8 whole niqabs? Better role out the riot vans.

[democracyforum]

(Original post by confusedexcited)
Hang on, what's the issue, muslims or brown people? Would a group of white, English muslims provoke as violent a response?

Are you a believer in G-d or not ?

[confusedexcited]

(Original post by democracyforum)
Are you a believer in G-d or not ?

Do you mean God? If so, I am not.

[Formerly Helpful_C]

(Original post by whyumadtho)
...Right.

I'm not even going to bother.

Good, because you argue anything for arguments sake. Not because you actually believe in what you're saying.

[Formerly Helpful_C]

(Original post by confusedexcited)
Hang on, what's the issue, muslims or brown people? Would a group of white, English muslims provoke as violent a response?

Muslims.

[Formerly Helpful_C]

(Original post by confusedexcited)
Eh, I think it's easy to overemphasie the cultural division signified by the niqab/burqa, it's no more signficicant than the division between tracksuit and suit wearing men.

And there quite clearly is an Islamic take over. I mean, 8 whole niqabs? Better role out the riot vans.

No, 8 in a space of 30 minutes. I counted over 100 today.

How is it no more significant than the difference between a tracksuit and a suit? At least with those you can see the face. The niqab is culturally-excluding and socially divisive.

[whyumadtho]

(Original post by Formerly Helpful_C)
Good, because you argue anything for arguments sake. Not because you actually believe in what you're saying.

I believe everything I say—why wouldn't I?

[whyumadtho]

(Original post by Formerly Helpful_C)
The niqab is culturally-excluding and socially divisive.

We all have exclusive social/friendship groups that preclude the entry of people who are socially incompatible with our interests/behaviours. Every given action will alienate you from and integrate you with various other actors in society.