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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    Did you make him shout SHOW ME THE MONEY?
    Yes and I responded that it is currently in a Nigerian bank account I inherited from a long lost relative I just need a small fee to cover tax costs etc so I can wire him the money.
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    (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
    But it's not for anyone, me or otherwise to start trying to get the speaker to act what would have been in breach of the election procedure in reopening the election because there is only a single candidate. Of course, if the vote comes back for RON then that's a different matter.
    Surely MPs / posters have the right to ask the speaker to act in a certain way, and then the speaker uses their own judgement if to act or not? I don't recall anyone telling the Speaker that he must act in a certain way, or asking the speaker to act once he gave his decision on the matter.

    From an outside point as well, I find it interesting that most of the posts of the nature that I quoted are made by the TSR UKIP party. I doubt that toronto353 is using his position unfairly, but I wonder if the people posting that it is unfair would think so if the person was another person outside the party.

    (Edit: Got ahead of myself, others have made the same point but my point is really the basis of this thread. MPs can try and convince others to vote a certain way if they want, and can also make requests of the speaker (which can be turned down))
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    (Original post by rmhumphries)
    Surely MPs / posters have the right to ask the speaker to act in a certain way, and then the speaker uses their own judgement if to act or not? I don't recall anyone telling the Speaker that he must act in a certain way, or asking the speaker to act once he gave his decision on the matter.

    From an outside point as well, I find it interesting that most of the posts of the nature that I quoted are made by the TSR UKIP party. I doubt that toronto353 is using his position unfairly, but I wonder if the people posting that it is unfair would think so if the person was in another person.

    (Edit: Got ahead of myself, others have made the same point but my point is really the basis of this thread. MPs can try and convince others to vote a certain way if they want, and can also make requests of the speaker (which can be turned down))
    I think there are bigger issues to address if candidates are being eaten.
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    Members should retain and reserve the right to express their opinion on these matter - including whether a candidate should withdraw, or whether people should vote RON. I don't agree with any of this thread and I don't see any need for it to be posted. Due process was followed and the candidate was rejected for whatever reason (in this case, that it was not healthy to have a one candidate election). Thus, we have a second round. Just like if more people had voted for toronto than RON, then he would be speaker. I really don't see the issue here.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    I think there are bigger issues to address if candidates are being eaten.
    You can tell it has been a long day for me Fixed my original post.

    Although, being inside another person doesn't necessary mean they were eaten, they could just be showing love for each other!
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    (Original post by jesusandtequila)
    Members should retain and reserve the right to express their opinion on these matter - including whether a candidate should withdraw, or whether people should vote RON. I don't agree with any of this thread and I don't see any need for it to be posted. Due process was followed and the candidate was rejected for whatever reason (in this case, that it was not healthy to have a one candidate election). Thus, we have a second round. Just like if more people had voted for toronto than RON, then he would be speaker. I really don't see the issue here.
    I agree and I hope I can show you this time around that I am the right person to become Speaker.
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    (Original post by toronto353)
    I agree and I hope I can show you this time around that I am the right person to become Speaker.
    Come on toronto show some steel to the voters. Voters are stupid little animals that want to be tamed they see strength and they are drawn to it like a moth to a flame. The whole "please sir can I have some more" routine saddens me.
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    Come on toronto show some steel to the voters. Voters are stupid little animals that want to be tamed they see strength and they are drawn to it like a moth to a flame. The whole "please sir can I have some more" routine saddens me.
    That's entirely your opinion and you're welcome to it. I'm glad that I'm making you sad - it clearly show that I must be doing something right. Now run along.
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    (Original post by toronto353)
    That's entirely your opinion and you're welcome to it. I'm glad that I'm making you sad - it clearly show that I must be doing something right. Now run along.
    It makes you seem like Mitt Romney flipping and flopping to impress every potential audience. Your whole routine about regretting bills about taking away freedom of speech and all this "I hope I win you over *insert random smiley" seems so fake. I want to see the real Toronto, I want to stare into his eyes before I take away his pride and storm to victory in the election.
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    It makes you seem like Mitt Romney flipping and flopping to impress every potential audience. Your whole routine about regretting bills about taking away freedom of speech and all this "I hope I win you over *insert random smiley" seems so fake. I want to see the real Toronto, I want to stare into his eyes before I take away his pride and storm to victory in the election.
    I'm always happy to irritate you. I see that ignorance is truly bliss. You're welcome to your opinion about me being fake and I'm not going to try to change that. Now run along.
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    (Original post by toronto353)
    I'm always happy to irritate you. I see that ignorance is truly bliss. Now run along.
    I like how you lost an election against yourself. The only person in the history of elections to ever lose against himself. Run along now.
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    I like how you lost an election against yourself. The only person in the history of elections to ever lose against himself. Run along now.
    And how many elections with one person (and RON) have there been previously?
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    (Original post by rmhumphries)
    And how many elections with one person (and RON) have their been previously?
    there*.
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    there*.
    Yes, well done, you managed to find a mistake in my grammar after I have had a long day. You also didn't answer my question, maybe because you don't know, maybe because the answer will make you look silly.
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    (Original post by rmhumphries)
    Yes, well done, you managed to find a mistake in my grammar after I have had a long day. You also didn't answer my question, maybe because you don't know, maybe because the answer will make you look silly.
    Or maybe because it is irrelevant as my statement is still correct.
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    Or maybe because it is irrelevant as my statement is still correct.
    Interesting, is this the approach you are going to take if you run again, ignore all questions you are asked as long as your manifesto is correct?

    On another note, then context is still important. toronto353 may have been the only person to lose an election against RON, but then if he is only person to do so, you could say that any single person, if they had of ran against RON, would have lost. I believe that a lot of the MPs voted RON not because they didn't think toronto353 would do a bad job, but they didn't want a single-candidate winner as someone less confident might do a better job if they don't think they are running against a much more experienced and well known member.

    Maybe a more relevant question to ask is which candidates for the election have been banned recently? Wouldn't want a speaker who can't do his job for a week because he has been banned - that looks bad on the house, it would be like a real life speaker ending up in prison.
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    I hope the new election is without the bitterness and unpleasantness of the first.
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    (Original post by rmhumphries)
    You can tell it has been a long day for me Fixed my original post.

    Although, being inside another person doesn't necessary mean they were eaten, they could just be showing love for each other!
    True enough!
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    I like how you lost an election against yourself. The only person in the history of elections to ever lose against himself. Run along now.
    Delightful as ever to speak with you. I look forward to our debate.
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    (Original post by toronto353)
    Delightful as ever to speak with you. I look forward to our debate.
    But he should have said RON along now...

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