Completing the square for x3

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  1. Kj91's Avatar
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    Completing the square for x3
    I am not quite sure how to do this.How do you express x^3 + 6x^2 + 10x + 4 in the form of (x+a)^3 + bx + c. I thought taking out the x would work to make it a square but it leaves me trying to square root a negative number. How do you start this question? Thanks.
  2. TenOfThem's Avatar
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    Re: Completing the square for x3
    What about expanding the RHS and the equating coefficients
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    Re: Completing the square for x3
    Set 'x^3 + 6x^2 + 10x + 4 = (x+a)^3 + bx + c' and expand out the right hand side. Then you can equate coefficients, so all the x^2 terms should sum to 6 etc. Can you take it from there?
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    Re: Completing the square for x3
    (Original post by TenOfThem)
    What about expanding the RHS and the equating coefficients
    (Original post by tory88)
    Set 'x^3 + 6x^2 + 10x + 4 = (x+a)^3 + bx + c' and expand out the right hand side. Then you can equate coefficients, so all the x^2 terms should sum to 6 etc. Can you take it from there?
    Thanks for your replies. Sorry for the late reply.I expanded it to ax^3 + 2a^2 x + a^3 x. I need to ask how to equate the coefficients? How do you equate the a^3 x Thanks[/QUOTE]
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    Re: Completing the square for x3
    (Original post by Kj91)
    Thanks for your replies. Sorry for the late reply.I expanded it to ax^3 + 2a^2 x + a^3 x. I need to ask how to equate the coefficients? How do you equate the a^3 x Thanks
    Your expansion is incorrect
  6. Kj91's Avatar
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    Re: Completing the square for x3
    (Original post by TenOfThem)
    Your expansion is incorrect
    Thanks.So is it x^3 + 2a^2 x^2 + a^3 x. I need help as to what to do after equating them.
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    Re: Completing the square for x3
    (Original post by Kj91)
    Thanks.So is it x^3 + 2a^2 x^2 + a^3 x. I need help as to what to do after equating them.
    Still not correct
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    Re: Completing the square for x3
    Perhaps expand (x+a)^3 and find the equivalent coefficients compared to the full one to see if there is a sort of pattern?

    I haven tried this, I may try this later
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    Re: Completing the square for x3
    (Original post by Kj91)
    Thanks.So is it x^3 + 2a^2 x^2 + a^3 x. I need help as to what to do after equating them.
    Expand (x+a)^2, then multiply the whole thing by (x+a). What do you get?
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    Re: Completing the square for x3
    (Original post by tory88)
    Expand (x+a)^2, then multiply the whole thing by (x+a). What do you get?
    And then do not forget to add on your bx+c
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    Re: Completing the square for x3
    (Original post by tory88)
    Expand (x+a)^2, then multiply the whole thing by (x+a). What do you get?
    This is what I get.

    (x+a)(x+a)

    x^2 + 2ax + a^2

    x(x^2 + 2ax + a^2) = x^3 + 2a x^2 + a^2 x)

    a(x^3 + 2a x^2 + a^2 x) = ax^3 + 2a^2 x^2 + a^3 x + bx + c

    Once I equal this to this to x^3 + 6x^2 + 10x + 4. I am unsure how to equate.
    Last edited by Kj91; 01-08-2012 at 17:15.
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    Re: Completing the square for x3
    (Original post by Kj91)
    This is what I get.

    x(x^2 + 2ax + a^2) = x^3 + 2a x^2 + a^2 x)

    a(x^3 + 2a x^2 + a^2 x) = ax^3 + 2a^2 x^2 + a^3 x + bx + c
    This is wrong

    when you times by (x+a) you do not times by x and then times by a

    I do not normally do full solutions but hold on and I will show you this
  13. TenOfThem's Avatar
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    Re: Completing the square for x3
    here is the bracket cubed

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    then do not forget to add the bx + c

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    then equate coefficients

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    Last edited by TenOfThem; 01-08-2012 at 17:25.
  14. Kj91's Avatar
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    Re: Completing the square for x3
    (Original post by TenOfThem)
    here is the bracket cubed

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    then do not forget to add the bx + c

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    then equate coefficients

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    Thanks very much for taking the time to post a solution to this question. I get it now. I'll need to go over some more questions like this.
  15. TenOfThem's Avatar
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    Re: Completing the square for x3
    (Original post by Kj91)
    Thanks very much for taking the time to post a solution to this question. I get it now. I'll need to go over some more questions like this.
    No problem

    You need to practice some of your basic algebra and feel totally secure

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