[Metrobeans]

M113 - Motion regarding the situation in the Syrian Arab Republic, TSR Labour

This House is deeply concerned with the continuing violence and brutal killings occurring in the Syrian Arab Republic, orchestrated by the al-Assad regime. This House strongly believes that Bashar al-Assad has lost all legitimacy to govern and calls on Bashar al-Assad to leave office with immediate effect. TSR MHoC, in the strongest terms possible, condemns the innocent killings of civilians and believes all members of the regime should be held accountable for their actions.

[internetguru]

I'm pretty sure Syria already knows we condemn the murder of unarmed civilians.

[toronto353]

I have continued to call for Assad to go in the MUN, but this motion should strengthen and confirm the resolve of this House for Assad to go. I welcome and support this motion.

[barnetlad]

Of course we should condemn brutality.

[Morgsie]

Yes strongly support this, We must exert Diplomatic pressure and appy pressure on Russia and China. Chapter 7 Sanctions must be an aim.

Military Intervention must be a last resort and requires Authorisation

[tehFrance]

I am not concerned at all, in-fact I haven't even thought about Syria... don't even see it in the news... then again I suppose business news stations aren't the place to find general news

Let's be honest though, I am rather ignorant so this isn't at all unsurprising.

[chrisawhitmore]

(Original post by tehFrance)
I am not concerned at all, in-fact I haven't even thought about Syria... don't even see it in the news... then again I suppose business news stations aren't the place to find general news

Let's be honest though, I am rather ignorant so this isn't at all unsurprising.

Summary of the news at the moment: Olympics, Olympics, Olympics and finally, something about hundreds of civillians being shelled and attacked with helicopters somewhere foreign. Comments on how this may affect the Olympics.

[eff01]

(Original post by Morgsie)
Yes strongly support this, We must exert Diplomatic pressure and appy pressure on Russia and China. Chapter 7 Sanctions must be an aim.

Military Intervention must be a last resort and requires Authorisation

Mr Speaker, I support the comments of the honourable gentlemen. Indeed military intervention should always be the last option. Increased diplomatic pressure should be placed on China and Russia, as the reality of the situation is that without the support of these two Security Council members, no serious progress can be made.

I have reiterated on many occasions, Mr Speaker, that change in Syria must come from within. No western led regime change can deliver the stability and democracy that the Syrian people demand.

[SciFiRory]

this motion is incredibly hypocritical and simplistic, I also highly doubt that Assad gives a flying **** what the government of the UK thinks about him.

[eff01]

(Original post by toronto353)
I have continued to call for Assad to go in the MUN, but this motion should strengthen and confirm the resolve of this House for Assad to go. I welcome and support this motion.

Mr Speaker, I welcome the support of the Foreign Secretary regarding this motion and acknowledge his efforts at the MUN, where the Rt Honourable Gentlemen has been involved in drafting a resolution on this situation.

Mr Speaker, I look forward to working with the Rt Hourable Gentleman in order to make sure we find a peaceful and diplomatic solution to this extremely worrying situation.

[eff01]

(Original post by SciFiRory)


this motion is incredibly hypocritical and simplistic, I also highly doubt that Assad gives a flying **** what the government of the UK thinks about him.

Mr Speaker, the lack of optimism that the honourable lady displays, worries me incredibly.

[toronto353]

(Original post by eff01)
Mr Speaker, I welcome the support of the Foreign Secretary regarding this motion and acknowledge his efforts at the MUN, where the Rt Honourable Gentlemen has been involved in drafting a resolution on this situation.

Mr Speaker, I look forward to working with the Rt Hourable Gentleman in order to make sure we find a peaceful and diplomatic solution to this extremely worrying situation.

Mr Speaker, I am willing to work with my counterpart on this issue to ensure that we have cross party support and consensus for our policy towards Syria. I thank the Honourable Gentleman for acknowledging my efforts in the MUN.

[SciFiRory]

(Original post by eff01)
Mr Speaker, the lack of optimism that the honourable lady displays, worries me incredibly.

it's called living in the real world...if you want to pretend that the Olympics will bring about gender equality and that this motion will bring peace and prosperity to Syria then by all means have fun with that, but in terms of real world relevance it's a bit like making a bill calling for Unicorns to stop being mean to Leprechauns...

[jesusandtequila]

(Original post by SciFiRory)


this motion is incredibly hypocritical and simplistic, I also highly doubt that Assad gives a flying **** what the government of the UK thinks about him.

While all true, and I agree with the above - does it merit opposing the motion? I mean, does it do any harm? If it doesn't do any good and any harm then we can vote on it purely based upon it's sentiment, which is a nice one.

[SciFiRory]

(Original post by jesusandtequila)
While all true, and I agree with the above - does it merit opposing the motion? I mean, does it do any harm? If it doesn't do any good and any harm then we can vote on it purely based upon it's sentiment, which is a nice one.

I don't see what difference it makes either way tbh, though it bothers me that this motion is incredibly hypocritical tbh.

[eff01]

(Original post by SciFiRory)
I don't see what difference it makes either way tbh, though it bothers me that this motion is incredibly hypocritical tbh.

How is it hypocritical? We are condemning the brutal killings, asking al Assad to go and be held accountable for his actions.

[Morgsie]

After Assad goes, he should be on trial in the Hague

[SciFiRory]

(Original post by eff01)
How is it hypocritical? We are condemning the brutal killings, asking al Assad to go and be held accountable for his actions.

did we also condemn killings done in Saudi Arabia? by Israel against the Palestinians? by ourselves and the USA against Iraq and Afghanistan? I am pretty sure we did not...

[eff01]

(Original post by SciFiRory)
did we also condemn killings done in Saudi Arabia? by Israel against the Palestinians? by ourselves and the USA against Iraq and Afghanistan? I am pretty sure we did not...

You misunderstand me, indeed I have opinions on those issues and you can happily debate these issues in the ask the Foreign Sec thread where I and I'm sure Toronto will debate over the issues you have highlighted. This motion is about Syria but that doesn't mean TSR Labour are ignoring the issues in Palestine, drone strikes in Pakistan, political situation in KSA/Afghanistan. I look forward to debating these issues with you.

[Rhadamanthus]

(Original post by SciFiRory)


this motion is incredibly hypocritical and simplistic, I also highly doubt that Assad gives a flying **** what the government of the UK thinks about him.

How is it hypocritical?