Aeronautical Engineering - Glasgow
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Original post by ThisIsTheLife
I think you'll get an offer easily, possibly even unconditional.
Aeronautical Engineering is quite under-subscribed, which is why they've relaxed the entry requirements a LOT in recent years (it was much tougher when I applied, and they even required higher English at least C level). Although it's kind of backfired because the course isn't any easier and they're letting less capable people in. So there's a lot of people in first year, then not so many after that.
Anyway, I don't think you'll have any trouble, and you'll probably get at least a conditional.
You can't study other subjects along side these degree programmes. It's not like the science faculty where you choose several subjects freely from an extensive list and then specialise in later years. The engineering degree programmes are very much prescribed - your whole timetable is decided for you and you don't get to make ANY subject choices until 4th year - and even then you only get to choose 10/20 credits out of 120, with the other 100 being prescribed.
There's still quite a lot of chemistry in some engineering disciplines. Obviously chemical engineering, but also mechanical engineering (the materials science side of things), civil engineering, etc. Not so much in Aerospace Engineering though.
Aeronautical Engineering is quite under-subscribed, which is why they've relaxed the entry requirements a LOT in recent years (it was much tougher when I applied, and they even required higher English at least C level). Although it's kind of backfired because the course isn't any easier and they're letting less capable people in. So there's a lot of people in first year, then not so many after that.
Anyway, I don't think you'll have any trouble, and you'll probably get at least a conditional.
You can't study other subjects along side these degree programmes. It's not like the science faculty where you choose several subjects freely from an extensive list and then specialise in later years. The engineering degree programmes are very much prescribed - your whole timetable is decided for you and you don't get to make ANY subject choices until 4th year - and even then you only get to choose 10/20 credits out of 120, with the other 100 being prescribed.
There's still quite a lot of chemistry in some engineering disciplines. Obviously chemical engineering, but also mechanical engineering (the materials science side of things), civil engineering, etc. Not so much in Aerospace Engineering though.
Also, quick question, what's it like studying at the uni? for the course? is it at all like school? i'm really excited for it! just only more gruelling year of school left :P
Original post by Blue7195
Also, quick question, what's it like studying at the uni? for the course? is it at all like school? i'm really excited for it! just only more gruelling year of school left :P
It's nothing like school.
For a start there's no obligation to be there - you aren't disciplined for poor attendance, as it's performance that the uni is interested in. So you just need to pass the exams and the assignments and show aptitude.
Also the lecturers don't care about whether or not you're listening in the lectures. They walk in the room, they say their piece, and they leave. Whatever you're doing while they're doing that, they don't really care as long as they're not being interrupted. Most lecturers are actually full time researchers, and lecturing is more of an additional chore than anything else. So if you're not interested, they're quite happy to leave and go back to their office to get a bit of work done.
University is about being almost completely autonomous. You are studying when you want, HOW you want, with whom you want and where you want. There's no obligations on you whatsoever. No rules.
You're no longer TAUGHT, but lectured. In other words, there's no onus on the lecturer to make sure you're taking in their course and understanding it. All they have to do is deliver it and the rest is your responsibility.
Also, as far as I remember, there was never a bar on a school campus.
Original post by ThisIsTheLife
It's nothing like school.
For a start there's no obligation to be there - you aren't disciplined for poor attendance, as it's performance that the uni is interested in. So you just need to pass the exams and the assignments and show aptitude.
Also the lecturers don't care about whether or not you're listening in the lectures. They walk in the room, they say their piece, and they leave. Whatever you're doing while they're doing that, they don't really care as long as they're not being interrupted. Most lecturers are actually full time researchers, and lecturing is more of an additional chore than anything else. So if you're not interested, they're quite happy to leave and go back to their office to get a bit of work done.
University is about being almost completely autonomous. You are studying when you want, HOW you want, with whom you want and where you want. There's no obligations on you whatsoever. No rules.
You're no longer TAUGHT, but lectured. In other words, there's no onus on the lecturer to make sure you're taking in their course and understanding it. All they have to do is deliver it and the rest is your responsibility.
Also, as far as I remember, there was never a bar on a school campus.
For a start there's no obligation to be there - you aren't disciplined for poor attendance, as it's performance that the uni is interested in. So you just need to pass the exams and the assignments and show aptitude.
Also the lecturers don't care about whether or not you're listening in the lectures. They walk in the room, they say their piece, and they leave. Whatever you're doing while they're doing that, they don't really care as long as they're not being interrupted. Most lecturers are actually full time researchers, and lecturing is more of an additional chore than anything else. So if you're not interested, they're quite happy to leave and go back to their office to get a bit of work done.
University is about being almost completely autonomous. You are studying when you want, HOW you want, with whom you want and where you want. There's no obligations on you whatsoever. No rules.
You're no longer TAUGHT, but lectured. In other words, there's no onus on the lecturer to make sure you're taking in their course and understanding it. All they have to do is deliver it and the rest is your responsibility.
Also, as far as I remember, there was never a bar on a school campus.
ah thanks that's really helpful!
Hey guys. Really need some help here. I really want to study Aeronautical at Glasgow or Aero-Mechanical at strathclyde. I came a little short in my highers this year and worried in case I don't get a conditional. I love maths and physics and I'm not going to let myself down again in adv highers.
So I got:
Maths -A
Physics - B
Chemistry -B
Economics - B
English- B
This year I'm sitting:
Adv Maths
Adv Physics
Higher Graphic Comm.
Do you think I have a chance at getting a place in the Meng?
So I got:
Maths -A
Physics - B
Chemistry -B
Economics - B
English- B
This year I'm sitting:
Adv Maths
Adv Physics
Higher Graphic Comm.
Do you think I have a chance at getting a place in the Meng?
Original post by Aadil249
Hey guys. Really need some help here. I really want to study Aeronautical at Glasgow or Aero-Mechanical at strathclyde. I came a little short in my highers this year and worried in case I don't get a conditional. I love maths and physics and I'm not going to let myself down again in adv highers.
So I got:
Maths -A
Physics - B
Chemistry -B
Economics - B
English- B
This year I'm sitting:
Adv Maths
Adv Physics
Higher Graphic Comm.
Do you think I have a chance at getting a place in the Meng?
So I got:
Maths -A
Physics - B
Chemistry -B
Economics - B
English- B
This year I'm sitting:
Adv Maths
Adv Physics
Higher Graphic Comm.
Do you think I have a chance at getting a place in the Meng?
Don't worry about the difference between MEng/BEng. It really doesn't matter which of these you START on, as things can change down the line.
For the first 3 years, the degree is exactly the same for BEng and MEng students. It's only once you get to 4th year that things are different.
So, imagine how absurd it would be if you started off on the BEng curriculum and finished top of the class for the first 3 years, beating all of the people in the MEng curriculum, yet they were allowed to do MEng and you were stopped from doing MEng because you never started on that curriculum!
When you get to the end of 3rd year, the department looks at your grades over the first three years, and whether or not you can do MEng or have to stick with BEng is decided based on your average GPA at that point.
So I would advise you to apply for BEng degree because (for some reason) it has lower entry requirements. Then just keep your head down for the first three years and you can progress to the MEng curriculum if your performance in those years is sufficient.
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In any case, the entry requirements for MEng says:
"Applicants who achieved between BBB and AABBB/AAAB at their first sitting may receive a conditional or unconditional offer once all applications have been reviewed in March".
You are between that range, and the course is generally very under-subscribed, so I'd imagine you'd get a conditional offer.
"Applicants who achieved between BBB and AABBB/AAAB at their first sitting may receive a conditional or unconditional offer once all applications have been reviewed in March".
You are between that range, and the course is generally very under-subscribed, so I'd imagine you'd get a conditional offer.
Original post by ThisIsTheLife
In any case, the entry requirements for MEng says:
"Applicants who achieved between BBB and AABBB/AAAB at their first sitting may receive a conditional or unconditional offer once all applications have been reviewed in March".
You are between that range, and the course is generally very under-subscribed, so I'd imagine you'd get a conditional offer.
"Applicants who achieved between BBB and AABBB/AAAB at their first sitting may receive a conditional or unconditional offer once all applications have been reviewed in March".
You are between that range, and the course is generally very under-subscribed, so I'd imagine you'd get a conditional offer.
That's the entry requirements? No wonder there are so many drop outs. Going into 4th year BEng as wanting to Phd. Could you give me any information on how the process works? Does the university give a list of possible research topics available within the department? I'm interested in mainly fluids and turbo machinery.
Original post by Keese
That's the entry requirements? No wonder there are so many drop outs.
Well, yup, that's how it works. They've been making the entry requirements easier and easier year on year in order to increase subscription to the course from applicants. But the side effect is that the vast majority of students aren't cut out to actually get a degree... but the department/uni don't care, as long as they're filling first year seats and taking in hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of fees.
That's the way I see it, at least.
Going into 4th year BEng as wanting to Phd. Could you give me any information on how the process works? Does the university give a list of possible research topics available within the department? I'm interested in mainly fluids and turbo machinery.
I did this. I was on the MEng curriculum, but got a PhD position in 4th year and so left with BEng instead and went straight to PhD.
First things first - it IS quite rare to do this without an MEng or a postgrad Masters degree first. You have to be good or have a rapport with your potential supervisor.
Glasgow uni advertises some here: http://www.gla.ac.uk/schools/engineering/phdopportunities/
But you can talk to the academics who do research in the fields you're interested in and they might have positions they haven't advertised yet, or they might be willing to put in a funding application especially for you and a PhD topic of your choice if you express an interest to them. The university also offers some scholarship prizes for PhD funding if you can put together a decent proposal and get the support of a supervisor in the field - particularly this: http://www.gla.ac.uk/scholarships/homeandeuscholarships/postgraduateresearch/#d.en.186520 or this: http://www.gla.ac.uk/scholarships/homeandeuscholarships/postgraduateresearch/#d.en.103499. There's also this: http://www.gla.ac.uk/scholarships/homeandeuscholarships/postgraduateresearch/#d.en.18694 but this is mainly geared towards cross-faculty/interdisciplinary research projects.
It will help if you do your choose an academic whose research you're interested in to work under for your BEng project. That way they can see that you're interested and capable of doing quality research and you can express an interest in a PhD to them. I'd imagine you'd be looking to work under Gillies/Green/Vezza/Campobasso if it's fluids/turbomachinery you are interests in.
Of course there's no harm in looking at PhD opportunities elsewhere too. Come to the Dark Side (Strathy).
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I see, Thanks for that! Feel less stressed out now lol.
But like you said If i have a good chance of getting a conditional for the MEng i still should apply for the BEng to get lower requirements. But then what if i get like AB in Maths and Physics Adv highers which i couldve then gotten into MEng. Not too sure what to do because ill be applying to Strathclyde for Aer-Mechanical also. Would it look bad if i applied for MEng and BEng for both Uni's or just apply for the BEng for both Universities and work my socks off! lol??????????
But like you said If i have a good chance of getting a conditional for the MEng i still should apply for the BEng to get lower requirements. But then what if i get like AB in Maths and Physics Adv highers which i couldve then gotten into MEng. Not too sure what to do because ill be applying to Strathclyde for Aer-Mechanical also. Would it look bad if i applied for MEng and BEng for both Uni's or just apply for the BEng for both Universities and work my socks off! lol??????????
Original post by Aadil249
I see, Thanks for that! Feel less stressed out now lol.
But like you said If i have a good chance of getting a conditional for the MEng i still should apply for the BEng to get lower requirements. But then what if i get like AB in Maths and Physics Adv highers which i couldve then gotten into MEng. Not too sure what to do because ill be applying to Strathclyde for Aer-Mechanical also. Would it look bad if i applied for MEng and BEng for both Uni's or just apply for the BEng for both Universities and work my socks off! lol??????????
But like you said If i have a good chance of getting a conditional for the MEng i still should apply for the BEng to get lower requirements. But then what if i get like AB in Maths and Physics Adv highers which i couldve then gotten into MEng. Not too sure what to do because ill be applying to Strathclyde for Aer-Mechanical also. Would it look bad if i applied for MEng and BEng for both Uni's or just apply for the BEng for both Universities and work my socks off! lol??????????
You might as well apply to BEng as the requirements are lower.
Even if you get AB in maths and could have gotten on to MEng, it won't make one bit of difference. Even if you got onto the MEng curriculum that doesn't mean you'll be allowed to get an MEng - you still need to meet the GPA requirements from 1st-3rd year to get into the MEng curriculum. So what degree you'll eventually get really has nothing whatsoever to do with which one you apply to. Starting on BEng officially doesn't disadvantage you and starting on MEng officially doesn't advantage you. All students are in the same pool 1st-3rd year regardless.
So having to work your socks off is a requirement either way!
Original post by Aadil249
Its crazy at how much sense this makes! LOL
I have been stressing out for no reason what so ever then. That is pretty crazy that everything is the same yet requirements are different. Anyways, I will apply to both for BEng then
Thanks for explaining
I have been stressing out for no reason what so ever then. That is pretty crazy that everything is the same yet requirements are different. Anyways, I will apply to both for BEng then
Thanks for explaining
Quick disclaimer: it's been a year since a graduated and 6 years since I applied and things might well have changed since then. Before you apply it might be wise to e-mail the degree programme co-ordinators for confirmation of what I've said.
Additionally I did Aeronautical at Glasgow and know very little about how the undergraduate aero-mechanical degree runs at Strathclyde.
I see. I am going to the open days next week and if I can't speak to anyone there I'll email them.
I emailed strathclyde already. Dr Galloway said if I were to made an offer it would be AAA at ah! I was like you can't be serious. But I'm sure it won't we that competitive that they won't consider me. Since this conversation I am going with the BEng route - don't want to Hurt my chances of getting too high requirements.
I did however attend the Scottish space academy that strathclyde select pupils to attend so that will hopefully help in my application. I love the course at Glasgow but to me I think Aero-Mechanical is a better option.
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I emailed strathclyde already. Dr Galloway said if I were to made an offer it would be AAA at ah! I was like you can't be serious. But I'm sure it won't we that competitive that they won't consider me. Since this conversation I am going with the BEng route - don't want to Hurt my chances of getting too high requirements.
I did however attend the Scottish space academy that strathclyde select pupils to attend so that will hopefully help in my application. I love the course at Glasgow but to me I think Aero-Mechanical is a better option.
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Original post by Aadil249
Can i ask - did you have suitable grades for the MEng route? Or did you follow the route I may be taking.
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I had AAAAB highers from 5th year and went straight to Aero from there. I was "officially" on the MEng curriculum but decided to leave with the BEng to pursue a PhD (at Strathclyde).
Original post by Aadil249
I see. I am going to the open days next week and if I can't speak to anyone there I'll email them.
I emailed strathclyde already. Dr Galloway said if I were to made an offer it would be AAA at ah! I was like you can't be serious. But I'm sure it won't we that competitive that they won't consider me. Since this conversation I am going with the BEng route - don't want to Hurt my chances of getting too high requirements.
I did however attend the Scottish space academy that strathclyde select pupils to attend so that will hopefully help in my application. I love the course at Glasgow but to me I think Aero-Mechanical is a better option.
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I emailed strathclyde already. Dr Galloway said if I were to made an offer it would be AAA at ah! I was like you can't be serious. But I'm sure it won't we that competitive that they won't consider me. Since this conversation I am going with the BEng route - don't want to Hurt my chances of getting too high requirements.
I did however attend the Scottish space academy that strathclyde select pupils to attend so that will hopefully help in my application. I love the course at Glasgow but to me I think Aero-Mechanical is a better option.
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Does seem a tad excessive, but I see that the aero-mechanical entry requirements for MEng are a AAAAAB from 2 sittings.
So if we imagine that a 2.5 Bs is worth one A (for talking sake!), then you currently only have the equivalent of AAB, meaning you have another AAA to get at higher level. I would except that to come down a bit for AH level, but I suppose that's their discretion.
Would definitely go for the BEng curriculum for aero-mechanical then.
But like I said, it's very unlikely that the university will stop you from doing MEng if your performance in the early years of your degree is of a level which indicates that you're capable of the MEng.
Original post by cal234ey
Hey guys,
Just to let you know I am just about to start my 3rd year of Aeronautical Engineering at Glasgow. Any questions or general wonderings you may have you are welcome to post here or PM me I'll do my best to answer them.
Just to let you know I am just about to start my 3rd year of Aeronautical Engineering at Glasgow. Any questions or general wonderings you may have you are welcome to post here or PM me I'll do my best to answer them.
Third year... that's where the boys are sorted from the men.
Original post by Aadil249
I see. I am going to the open days next week and if I can't speak to anyone there I'll email them.
I emailed strathclyde already. Dr Galloway said if I were to made an offer it would be AAA at ah! I was like you can't be serious. But I'm sure it won't we that competitive that they won't consider me. Since this conversation I am going with the BEng route - don't want to Hurt my chances of getting too high requirements.
I did however attend the Scottish space academy that strathclyde select pupils to attend so that will hopefully help in my application. I love the course at Glasgow but to me I think Aero-Mechanical is a better option.
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I emailed strathclyde already. Dr Galloway said if I were to made an offer it would be AAA at ah! I was like you can't be serious. But I'm sure it won't we that competitive that they won't consider me. Since this conversation I am going with the BEng route - don't want to Hurt my chances of getting too high requirements.
I did however attend the Scottish space academy that strathclyde select pupils to attend so that will hopefully help in my application. I love the course at Glasgow but to me I think Aero-Mechanical is a better option.
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Actually, just found a brochure for Aero-mechanical and it would appear that if you are coming from 6th year instead of 5th year, and didn't meet the original requirements for one sitting, then they generally increase the requirement by one higher A.
And it says that Advanced Higher B equals Higher at A and Advanced higher C equals Higher at B.
You have ABBBB from higher at the moment. Let's imagine that 3 of your Bs are equivalent to 1 A (seems reasonable). Then you have AAB and need AAAAAB for the MEng, so you still need AAA... which should translate as BBB at advanced higher.
So seems strange that Dr. Galloway would have told you that you'd need AAA at Advanced Higher...
Original post by ThisIsTheLife
First things first - it IS quite rare to do this without an MEng or a postgrad Masters degree first. You have to be good or have a rapport with your potential supervisor.
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First things first - it IS quite rare to do this without an MEng or a postgrad Masters degree first. You have to be good or have a rapport with your potential supervisor.
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Many thanks for the links.
I took this decision on advice from Dr Green saying specifically don't bother with the MEng if you plan on going into research. Though Dr Green has been a total ******* this year, so he probably just wants shot of us quicker. I've looked at a couple of other unis and only 1 or 2 have said MEng or MSci 2:1 so hopefully I should be alright.
Definitely agree with you about the entries. Too many student lack the basics in my honest opinion, and they get quickly found out. Be that the maths, the physics, or just not being an idiot.
Original post by cal234ey
Hey guys,
Just to let you know I am just about to start my 3rd year of Aeronautical Engineering at Glasgow. Any questions or general wonderings you may have you are welcome to post here or PM me I'll do my best to answer them.
Just to let you know I am just about to start my 3rd year of Aeronautical Engineering at Glasgow. Any questions or general wonderings you may have you are welcome to post here or PM me I'll do my best to answer them.
Just finished 3rd year. My advice, work hard. Massive step up from 2nd year. In fact, ridiculous step up. They could make 2nd year harder to lessen the jump.
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