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    Friends and Drugs
    Hi, thanks for looking at my problem. Recently a friend of mine has become much more involved with my group of friends. Soon it's his birthday which im not attending appart from being out the country i have other issues with this guy.

    The other day this guy was talking about having a "smoke" before going out. I asked my friend about this i was a little confused (cause he was involving the rest of the guys.) Turns out this guy has a stash of weed and is letting all my friends try it. This group is not normaly like this, we generaly have a booze up every month but never touched drugs. I feel like this guy has not only betrayed my trust but is betraying my friends too.

    Bottom line i kind know what to do, im gonna distance myself from that guy but im worried if one of the others becomes addicted. One other new girl in the group has a drug using family as well as her. When i talked to them about this they made me feel like i was making a deal of nothing. She said it was all good and nothing to worrie about. I realy worrie about the others, they have been my friends for just under a decade now. I worrrie for them. Ive seen what it has done to other friends. I don't want to be appart of anything to do with this but i don't want my friends to do this either, im generaly liberal and would say live and let live but ive seen what this bs has done to others.

    I supose what im asking is, Am i making a big deal out of nothing? Do i have a right to be worried? If the others get addicted should i help them or leave them?
  2. thetopnotch's Avatar
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    Re: Friends and Drugs
    Your friends could be experimenting and if so it doesn't mean that they will get addicted. If this is something that they all want to do then it's their choice. If they do get addicted it's up to you whether or not you help someone who wants to be helped.
  3. :)ella's Avatar
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    Weed isn't very addictive, and they may just want to try it. If you want to distance yourself from it then that's fine and your friends should respect you for it. It's highly unlikely that your friends will all become potheads and be smoking every weekend so don't worry too much about that unless it happens.
  4. hothedgehog's Avatar
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    Re: Friends and Drugs
    1) It's worry not worrie.
    2) Weed isn't addictive. There are lots of people who've smoked it once or twice and that's enough for them so your friends aren't going to get addicted.
    3) You might not be comfortable with it but your friends can do whatever they want. If they're going to smoke weed then let them but there's no obligation for you to do so.
    4) Chances are, this new friend is going to do something stupid which the rest of your group will dislike or he'll just start to fall away for another group of friends. It's really hard to get in with such a long standing group of friends.
  5. Sternumator's Avatar
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    Re: Friends and Drugs
    This isn't something to lose friends over. It is up to them if they do it and there is no reason why you need to distance yourself from them if they choose to, except when they are actually smoking it. I have never smoked it and I have friends who smoke it nearly everyday. In my experiance peer pressure is a myth that the drugs education people made up, nobody is going to force you to smoke it, you may get offered it but you can always say no.

    You don't need to worry about your friends, weed is not very harmful and is not addictive. What do you mean by 'ive seen what this bs has done to others'? You should research drugs a bit because it would be helpful to know more about them if they are around you.
  6. A Cat's Avatar
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    Re: Friends and Drugs
    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Hi, thanks for looking at my problem. Recently a friend of mine has become much more involved with my group of friends. Soon it's his birthday which im not attending appart from being out the country i have other issues with this guy.

    The other day this guy was talking about having a "smoke" before going out. I asked my friend about this i was a little confused (cause he was involving the rest of the guys.) Turns out this guy has a stash of weed and is letting all my friends try it. This group is not normaly like this, we generaly have a booze up every month but never touched drugs. I feel like this guy has not only betrayed my trust but is betraying my friends too.

    Bottom line i kind know what to do, im gonna distance myself from that guy but im worried if one of the others becomes addicted. One other new girl in the group has a drug using family as well as her. When i talked to them about this they made me feel like i was making a deal of nothing. She said it was all good and nothing to worrie about. I realy worrie about the others, they have been my friends for just under a decade now. I worrrie for them. Ive seen what it has done to other friends. I don't want to be appart of anything to do with this but i don't want my friends to do this either, im generaly liberal and would say live and let live but ive seen what this bs has done to others.

    I supose what im asking is, Am i making a big deal out of nothing? Do i have a right to be worried? If the others get addicted should i help them or leave them?
    Really, the problem here is that you (not only you) have been brainwashed about the reality of drugs. Alcohol is a drug, a poison really, a man-made drug which distorts your perception of reality considerably. Cannabis is also a drug. However, it's origins are the same as human's origins, from the evolutionary platform. Cannabis also distorts one's perception of reality, through altering the mind. It doesn't put you too far from reality, as in you won't start tripping balls. Instead you will feel somewhat at ease, at peace, but there are side effects like *slight* paranoia - i.e. thinking that the light in the distance is the cops and they're coming to GET you!

    I think you are making a big deal from, not nothing, just something not worth crying about. At the end of your day your friends have their own lives and wants and feelings, and they may feel that they want cannabis as it would be beneficial to their lives. The addiction aspect of cannabis is quite low-level, as long as one isn't in a pattern of smoking all day every day then cannabis can be enjoyed as it should. The more you smoke, in frequency and in quantity, the more you change the construct of your brain to accomodate cannabis, making yourself dependent on cannabis to function (be warned this is really heavy smoking, joint in the morning, one every 2 hours after that, avoid it completely).

    Don't worry about it, they can still be your friends if they smoke cannabis you know. Also can I ask you what the comment, "I've seen what this bs does to others" is about?
  7. Cressida's Avatar
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    (Original post by Samrout)
    Really, the problem here is that you (not only you) have been brainwashed about the reality of drugs. Alcohol is a drug, a poison really, a man-made drug which distorts your perception of reality considerably. Cannabis is also a drug. However, it's origins are the same as human's origins, from the evolutionary platform. Cannabis also distorts one's perception of reality, through altering the mind. It doesn't put you too far from reality, as in you won't start tripping balls. Instead you will feel somewhat at ease, at peace, but there are side effects like *slight* paranoia - i.e. thinking that the light in the distance is the cops and they're coming to GET you!

    I think you are making a big deal from, not nothing, just something not worth crying about. At the end of your day your friends have their own lives and wants and feelings, and they may feel that they want cannabis as it would be beneficial to their lives. The addiction aspect of cannabis is quite low-level, as long as one isn't in a pattern of smoking all day every day then cannabis can be enjoyed as it should. The more you smoke, in frequency and in quantity, the more you change the construct of your brain to accomodate cannabis, making yourself dependent on cannabis to function (be warned this is really heavy smoking, joint in the morning, one every 2 hours after that, avoid it completely).

    Don't worry about it, they can still be your friends if they smoke cannabis you know. Also can I ask you what the comment, "I've seen what this bs does to others" is about?
    Well said, of course there is à slight chance of things ballsing up but ils thé same with anything. It seems, more than anything that you are close and care for your friends however don't like change and worry about the effect weed-guy has on your friend. People experiment with drugs, they have done and always will. You worrying or opinions won't change their attitude. You shouldn't let their decision to try drugs be the be all and end all of your relation to them. Now if you have a genuine issue with weed guy or conflict with his personality then feel free to distance yourself, however please don't forge your social life around avoiding people who.want to try drugs.

    I have a Korean friend who consistently performs in the top 10% as well as being fast tracked to 2nd year on entry to uni and he has had a weed habit since 13. Although media and culture seem to write off all drug users as failures and addicts, it is wrong to paint all with the same brush. My friend might be one in a thousand smokers but he is proof that an outlier exists.

    Let your friends do what they want, you're not having drugs thrown down your throat so there is no reason to cut them out.
  8. EonBlueApocalypse's Avatar
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    Re: Friends and Drugs
    (Original post by Samrout)
    Really, the problem here is that you (not only you) have been brainwashed about the reality of drugs. Alcohol is a drug, a poison really, a man-made drug which distorts your perception of reality considerably. Cannabis is also a drug. However, it's origins are the same as human's origins, from the evolutionary platform. Cannabis also distorts one's perception of reality, through altering the mind. It doesn't put you too far from reality, as in you won't start tripping balls. Instead you will feel somewhat at ease, at peace, but there are side effects like *slight* paranoia - i.e. thinking that the light in the distance is the cops and they're coming to GET you!

    I think you are making a big deal from, not nothing, just something not worth crying about. At the end of your day your friends have their own lives and wants and feelings, and they may feel that they want cannabis as it would be beneficial to their lives. The addiction aspect of cannabis is quite low-level, as long as one isn't in a pattern of smoking all day every day then cannabis can be enjoyed as it should. The more you smoke, in frequency and in quantity, the more you change the construct of your brain to accomodate cannabis, making yourself dependent on cannabis to function (be warned this is really heavy smoking, joint in the morning, one every 2 hours after that, avoid it completely).

    Don't worry about it, they can still be your friends if they smoke cannabis you know. Also can I ask you what the comment, "I've seen what this bs does to others" is about?
    What this guy said.
  9. ESPORTIVA's Avatar
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Hi, thanks for looking at my problem. Recently a friend of mine has become much more involved with my group of friends. Soon it's his birthday which im not attending appart from being out the country i have other issues with this guy.

    The other day this guy was talking about having a "smoke" before going out. I asked my friend about this i was a little confused (cause he was involving the rest of the guys.) Turns out this guy has a stash of weed and is letting all my friends try it. This group is not normaly like this, we generaly have a booze up every month but never touched drugs. I feel like this guy has not only betrayed my trust but is betraying my friends too.

    Bottom line i kind know what to do, im gonna distance myself from that guy but im worried if one of the others becomes addicted. One other new girl in the group has a drug using family as well as her. When i talked to them about this they made me feel like i was making a deal of nothing. She said it was all good and nothing to worrie about. I realy worrie about the others, they have been my friends for just under a decade now. I worrrie for them. Ive seen what it has done to other friends. I don't want to be appart of anything to do with this but i don't want my friends to do this either, im generaly liberal and would say live and let live but ive seen what this bs has done to others.

    I supose what im asking is, Am i making a big deal out of nothing? Do i have a right to be worried? If the others get addicted should i help them or leave them?


    You are very silly:

    "we generaly have a booze up every month but never touched drugs"

    Alcohol is one of the most dangerous drugs on the planet

    If anything is gonna mess up you or your friends life its the alcohol and the booze ups.
  10. member592149's Avatar
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    Re: Friends and Drugs
    Weed is fine. Relax.
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    Re: Friends and Drugs
    (Original post by Samrout)
    Really, the problem here is that you (not only you) have been brainwashed about the reality of drugs. Alcohol is a drug, a poison really, a man-made drug which distorts your perception of reality considerably. Cannabis is also a drug. However, it's origins are the same as human's origins, from the evolutionary platform. Cannabis also distorts one's perception of reality, through altering the mind. It doesn't put you too far from reality, as in you won't start tripping balls. Instead you will feel somewhat at ease, at peace, but there are side effects like *slight* paranoia - i.e. thinking that the light in the distance is the cops and they're coming to GET you!

    I think you are making a big deal from, not nothing, just something not worth crying about. At the end of your day your friends have their own lives and wants and feelings, and they may feel that they want cannabis as it would be beneficial to their lives. The addiction aspect of cannabis is quite low-level, as long as one isn't in a pattern of smoking all day every day then cannabis can be enjoyed as it should. The more you smoke, in frequency and in quantity, the more you change the construct of your brain to accomodate cannabis, making yourself dependent on cannabis to function (be warned this is really heavy smoking, joint in the morning, one every 2 hours after that, avoid it completely).

    Don't worry about it, they can still be your friends if they smoke cannabis you know. Also can I ask you what the comment, "I've seen what this bs does to others" is about?
    While I'm for drug legislation the idea that a synthetic drug is bad and a natural one is good is pretty stupid, cyanide occurs naturally and I definitely don't plan on doing that any time soon. Plus LSD and MDMA are considered safer than cannabis and they are synthetic.

    As for OP your mates can do whatever they want, chances are for most of them it will stay as just an odd spliff with a few of them going on to do it regularly if they really like it, weed isn't really seen as a big deal these days.
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    Re: Friends and Drugs
    (Original post by Jono404)
    While I'm for drug legislation the idea that a synthetic drug is bad and a natural one is good is pretty stupid, cyanide occurs naturally and I definitely don't plan on doing that any time soon. Plus LSD and MDMA are considered safer than cannabis and they are synthetic.

    As for OP your mates can do whatever they want, chances are for most of them it will stay as just an odd spliff with a few of them going on to do it regularly if they really like it, weed isn't really seen as a big deal these days.
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    Re: Friends and Drugs
    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Hi, thanks for looking at my problem. Recently a friend of mine has become much more involved with my group of friends. Soon it's his birthday which im not attending appart from being out the country i have other issues with this guy.

    The other day this guy was talking about having a "smoke" before going out. I asked my friend about this i was a little confused (cause he was involving the rest of the guys.) Turns out this guy has a stash of weed and is letting all my friends try it. This group is not normaly like this, we generaly have a booze up every month but never touched drugs. I feel like this guy has not only betrayed my trust but is betraying my friends too.

    Bottom line i kind know what to do, im gonna distance myself from that guy but im worried if one of the others becomes addicted. One other new girl in the group has a drug using family as well as her. When i talked to them about this they made me feel like i was making a deal of nothing. She said it was all good and nothing to worrie about. I realy worrie about the others, they have been my friends for just under a decade now. I worrrie for them. Ive seen what it has done to other friends. I don't want to be appart of anything to do with this but i don't want my friends to do this either, im generaly liberal and would say live and let live but ive seen what this bs has done to others.

    I supose what im asking is, Am i making a big deal out of nothing? Do i have a right to be worried? If the others get addicted should i help them or leave them?
    You sound like you've had a sheltered upbringing. Cannabis is literally the safest drug in existence, much safer than alcohol, tobacco, or caffeine.

    I'm not speaking as a pothead or an up-himself neckbeard who doesn't like drinking or cigarettes - I love alcohol. Cannabis is really a safe drug: the only way to overdose on it is by smoking 200 or so joints a day (even then you'd only die from the carbon monoxide poisoning), it has causes zero (0) deaths as a direct result of taking the drug, and it isn't addictive or harmful to the body.

    Before you dispute me on this, look it up for yourself.

    If your main problem with it is that it's illegal then I can't change what you think about it. It's a class C drug and punishments for possessing small amounts of it aren't really serious if that means anything. But just because it's illegal it doesn't make it a harmful substance, and just because something's legal it doesn't make it safe.

    Or maybe you just don't like your friends trying something new or them getting along with this other person you clearly don't like that much.
    Last edited by Dippy Dip; 09-08-2012 at 17:53.
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