Just....HOW?!!
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Just....HOW?!!Ok, so I'm 21 years old and I finally reached my goal today of doing 34kg Dumbells incline Bench Press, I had my friend pass up one dumbell and I managed 9 reps...
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2 really skinny guys around 18 years old come to the gym, I see them lift 20kg Dumbells to warm up then picked up the 34's! I couldn't believe it!
PLUS, they lifted them up on their own and managed 10 reps..
My question to TSR is.. HOW? How is it possible that I, who has a good amount I muscle mass an low fat percentage (11%) just about managed 34's and these really skinny, bony guys managed it with ease?
I just dont understand how I works?
I'm interested in the science behind it too. There's gotta be a reason.
Needless to say I was very disappointed with myself, going to have to try 38's :P -
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Re: Just....HOW?!!Strength is not defined by size ( muscle mass) but is more related to the neurological adaptation which the body goes through usually in the rep range of 1-5....
Various reasons....
Depends on the individuals relative population of type II and type I fibers
---- neurological factors:
Increase in motor synchronization
Inhibition of golgi tendon organs
Increased connection between the synaptic cleft ( can't recall the exact name.. between synapse and muscle grrrr)...
Efficiency of Acetylcholinesterase
A jump of 4kg is large...Last edited by liftorrot; 02-08-2012 at 01:22. -
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Re: Just....HOW?!!neuromuscular junction?(Original post by liftorrot)
Increased connection between the synaptic cleft ( can't recall the exact name.. between synapse and muscle grrrr)...
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Re: Just....HOW?!!He hit the nail exactly on the head. To increase strength, do heavy weights that you can only handle at a lower rep range. Range between 1-5 is for increasing strength, rep ranges for 8-12-ish are generally for muscle gain.(Original post by liftorrot)
Strength is not defined by size ( muscle mass) but is more related to the neurological adaptation which the body goes through usually in the rep range of 1-5....
Various reasons....
Depends on the individuals relative population of type II and type I fibers
---- neurological factors:
Increase in motor synchronization
Inhibition of golgi tendon organs
Increased connection between the synaptic cleft ( can't recall the exact name.. between synapse and muscle grrrr)...
Efficiency of Acetylcholinesterase
A jump of 4kg is large...
This is why I always do one warm up set (15 reps), 2 muscle gaining reps (10 then 8) then one strength gaining set where I stack as much as I can on the weights for roughly 4-6 reps.
Get a lot of protein and carbs into your diet.
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Re: Just....HOW?!!If you want to beat them, stop comparing yourself to others.
Clean & jerk, Snatch, Deadlift, Back+front squat, OH pressing, Bench pressing, dips, 1-armed shoulder DB press, snatch deadlifting etc.
All of those will get you stronger if you eat and rest good. -
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Re: Just....HOW?!!Bit of a paradox there, surely?(Original post by HARRY PUTAH)
If you want to beat them, stop comparing yourself to others.
Clean & jerk, Snatch, Deadlift, Back+front squat, OH pressing, Bench pressing, dips, 1-armed shoulder DB press, snatch deadlifting etc.
All of those will get you stronger if you eat and rest good. -
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Re: Just....HOW?!!Its a saying I've seen. it basically goes like this;(Original post by sil3nt_cha0s)
Bit of a paradox there, surely?
Stop comparing yourself to them and get on with your own thing. Look back and then smile at how far you've come. -
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Re: Just....HOW?!!(Original post by Himynameskiefer)
He hit the nail exactly on the head. To increase strength, do heavy weights that you can only handle at a lower rep range. Range between 1-5 is for increasing strength, rep ranges for 8-12-ish are generally for muscle gain.(Original post by ForGreatJustice)
And remember, size does not necessarily equal strength.
The guys the OP is talking about had most likely been lifting for a while and did not know what bulking means.
Strength and size have almost everything to do with each other.
Getting stronger + cal surplus = Getting bigger. /thread -
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Re: Just....HOW?!!Wrong, strength does NOT always correlate with size(Original post by ceris)
The guys the OP is talking about had most likely been lifting for a while and did not know what bulking means.
Strength and size have almost everything to do with each other.
Getting stronger + cal surplus = Getting bigger. /thread
I have seen plenty of strong, lean guys, I have also seen plenty of guys with an absurd amount of mass but are weak as ****.
Please learn some more -
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Re: Just....HOW?!!(Original post by Ravel)
Wrong, strength does NOT always correlate with size
I have seen plenty of strong, lean guys, I have also seen plenty of guys with an absurd amount of mass but are weak as ****.
Please learn some more
Please learn some more? lol there's no need to sink to ad hominem attacks
Re-read my post, you need a cal surplus to build mass, fi you believe otherwise you are misinformed. Anecdotal evidence does not change the fact that progressive overload + cal surplus = mass gains . Yeah a lot of factors like genetics/hormones, chronic injuries, PEDs etc. have to be considered but the rule still stands.
