[Laurenx123x]

Other than the biological differences, it seems as though men do suffer due to the false stereotype by some women that all men are the same. Women don't really get stereotyped as being all the same as such.

[miser]

Do men have it easy?

[RtGOAT]

No. Women have it easy, all they need to do is find a man and they're set for life.

Men actually have to work for a living.

[Dinnes]

(Original post by Laurenx123x)
Other than the biological differences, it seems as though men do suffer due to the false stereotype by some women that all men are the same. Women don't really get stereotyped as being all the same as such.

I'd probably agree that there is a growing degree of stereotyping men as well. But yeah, biologically we definitely get it easy

[chickenonsteroids]

Biologically, yes. Socially, no.

To say that men 'have it easy' and reduce it to a point where they're almost coasting through life is stupid.

why is the childbirth argument always used? Do women have go through labour every single day? Or maybe once in their whole life time? Maybe it's just me, but I find it quite silly to hear people say 'well we have to give birth!' blah blah blah when they forget the physical work a lot of men do. Or does that not count?

Anyway, I find arguments like these futile. They put men and women in competition when they don't need to be. Neither have it 'more difficult' than the other.

[lukas1051]

Biologically, I suppose, but as far as sexism is concerned I think it it a huge problem for men. A woman can take half a man's possessions simply by marrying and then divorcing him, I think that's a massive problem. If two underage people sleep together, the male can be charged with rape whereas the female won't, that, and a lot of the legal issues surrounding rape, are hugely problematic for men compared to women. I don't think we do have it easy nowadays.

[Hype en Ecosse]

(Original post by dragon500uk)
Also - I think we women actually have it easy, arent those random erections at innapropriate times a bit of a pain?

The worst is getting them when you're wearing jeans. It keeps trying to pull itself up, but the jeans stop it, and it ****ing hurts/is uncomfortable. Even worse is when you're around other people in a fashion that you can't stick your hand down your trousers to move it into a comfortable position.

[Dobrzynski]

A fair point OP and you have explained, argued and responded to feedback in a sterling and wise way.

[James A]

(Original post by JollyGreenAtheist)
Try wearing jeans with a hard on. Cry me a bloody river, ladies.

[NYU2012]

(Original post by chickenonsteroids)
Anyway, I find arguments like these futile. They put men and women in competition when they don't need to be. Neither have it 'more difficult' than the other.

Reproductive rights:
Do men have to worry about access to birth control? No.
Do they have to worry about pregnancy? No.
Do they have to worry about access to abortions? No.

Economics/employment:
Do women make as much money as men? No.
Do women hold as high positions as men, on average? No.
Do men have to worry about employment rights/employment termination during pregnancy? No.
Are single fathers coerced into prostitution are often as are single mothers? No.

Social factors:
Are men as sexualized as women? No.
Are men blamed for rape (victim blaming)? No.


Need I keep going?

While I do think that man and woman should not be considered binary oppositions and that such absolute categorical and opposing classifications are, quite frankly, dumb; the fact of the matter is that in current westernized society, gender predominantly is viewed in a binary opposition

To those of you who keep quoting me attempting to refute my points or get me to respond: Before you quote me or attempt to refute me, pick up some books on feminist literature, start with maybe "Women's Right's in the USA". Until you've actually educated yourself on the feminist literature available, I have no interest in attempting to engage you, as it's a complete waste of my time.

[Annoying-Mouse]

(Original post by lukas1051)
Biologically, I suppose, but as far as sexism is concerned I think it it a huge problem for men. A woman can take half a man's possessions simply by marrying and then divorcing him, I think that's a massive problem. If two underage people sleep together, the male can be charged with rape whereas the female won't, that, and a lot of the legal issues surrounding rape, are hugely problematic for men compared to women. I don't think we do have it easy nowadays.

Where's your evidence that the courts are sexist towards men? Little anecdotal examples show nothing. I agree with you on the rape thing though.

[philistine]

Being male is easy. Being a man is hard.

Since you even proposed this question, you're obviously not a man.

[Dinnes]

(Original post by NYU2012)
Reproductive rights:
Do men have to worry about access to birth control? No.
Do they have to worry about pregnancy? No.
Do they have to worry about access to abortions? No.

Economics/employment:
Do women make as much money as men? No.
Do women hold as high positions as men, on average? No.
Do men have to worry about employment rights/employment termination during pregnancy? No.
Are single fathers coerced into prostitution are often as are single mothers? No.

Social factors:
Are men as sexualized as women? No.
Are men blamed for rape (victim blaming)? No.


Need I keep going?

While I do think that man and woman should not be considered binary oppositions and that such absolute categorical and opposing classifications are, quite frankly, dumb; the fact of the matter is that in current westernized society, gender predominantly is viewed in a binary opposition

^ Agree. Still, things are a lot better than they were I guess

[Dinnes]

(Original post by philistine)
Being male is easy. Being a man is hard.

Since you even proposed this question, you're obviously not a man.

I am a man :P Sorry if that burst your bubble.

[PurpleEyes]

Ahem.

In my opinion, I wouldn't say that men 'have it easy' but women do have to face a lot of problems that men never encounter. All the biological ones (menstruation, menopause, labour etc.) are obvious, but there's a level of pressure placed upon women that men don't feel to the same extent: the pressure to have it all. However, this isn't the fault of the 'patriarchy' or men - they obviously have some influence over the way society expects women to behave because they are part of society, but in my experience, women unfairly pressurise each other. This makes me sad. For example, who do we really wear make-up for? Most guys don't like loads of make-up or don't even notice anyway. Who do we follow celebrity fashion to impress when the majority of men couldn't care less? It's to impress other women - we pit ourselves against one another in some horrible competition to be the best-looking but to look 'effortless'; to have the best sex life, but to not be a 'slut'. The media doesn't help. I think that recently, men are increasingly being subject to this sort of thing (hipster fashion, women leering over the guy on the Hollister bags etc.) but really, for me this is one of the most difficult things about being a woman.

[lukas1051]

(Original post by Annoying-Mouse)
Where's your evidence that the courts are sexist towards men? Little anecdotal examples show nothing. I agree with you on the rape thing though.

I don't have any, but I do certainly know of anecdotes where it has happened. I realise that proves nothing, but I think most people would agree with me, and unless you can prove otherwise I don't think my view will change.

[NYU2012]

(Original post by Dinnes)
^ Agree. Still, things are a lot better than they were I guess

Yes, extensive progress has been made since the late 19th century concerning gender divides; however, there is still a lot left to be done.

Prime examples can be made as to how truly ingrained the gender divide is by reading literature on intersex individuals.

[chickenonsteroids]

(Original post by NYU2012)
Reproductive rights:
Do men have to worry about access to birth control? No.
Do they have to worry about pregnancy? No.
Do they have to worry about access to abortions? No.

Economics/employment:
Do women make as much money as men? No.
Do women hold as high positions as men, on average? No.
Do men have to worry about employment rights/employment termination during pregnancy? No.
Are single fathers coerced into prostitution are often as are single mothers? No.

Social factors:
Are men as sexualized as women? No.
Are men blamed for rape (victim blaming)? No.


Need I keep going?

I realise all those points, but that wasn't really the point of my post. I don't think there's a point in reducing a man's life to simply coasting through life.

But your point about rape isn't really useful. Men have as many problems when it comes to rape as women do. Men are blamed for rape when the opposite may have happened and nothing is done about it. They're also more raped than women if you include what happens in jail. And the simple accusation of rape from a woman to a man can ruin his life in the eyes of the public.

[Jono404]

(Original post by NYU2012)

Are men as sexualized as women? No.

Tell me you're taking the ****ing piss, please. If anything it's become acceptable for women to fawn over topless pics of men and unacceptable for men to do the same, just look at the whole 50 shades of grey thing and all the girls getting wet over that new Channing Tatum film. As for your economic reasons, women don't earn as much as men because despite what feminazis have tried a fair amount of women are still quite happy to attach themselves to a man, have children and leave the workplace.

[NYU2012]

(Original post by lukas1051)
and unless you can prove otherwise I don't think my view will change.

That's called an argument from the negative and is fallacious.

You cannot argue from the negative and have a valid argument.