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    Womens Team Sprint Disqualifications
    What is they've done wrong, exactly? I missed the GB disqualification but watched the final and don't see what the Chinese did wrong? Could somebody please explain, the commentator just confused me even more!
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    Re: Womens Team Sprint Disqualifications
    In sprint cycling, you're only allowed to overtake in a certain zone (similar to baton changing in relay races).

    The British rider overtook quite a bit before the line so their disqualification is fair enough, but the Chinese seemed to be equal when they crossed the line. Harsh decision for them if you ask me.
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    Re: Womens Team Sprint Disqualifications
    (Original post by Astronomical)
    What is they've done wrong, exactly? I missed the GB disqualification but watched the final and don't see what the Chinese did wrong? Could somebody please explain, the commentator just confused me even more!
    As far as I understand it;
    The second rider's front wheel cannot pass the back wheel of the first rider before a certain point - they crossed before that point in both cases.

    However watching some of the olympic competitions I feel like this;

    Last edited by crocker710; 02-08-2012 at 18:45.
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    Re: Womens Team Sprint Disqualifications
    (Original post by crocker710)
    As far as I understand it;
    The second rider's front wheel cannot pass the back wheel of the first rider before a certain point - they crossed before that point in both cases.

    However watching some of the olympic competitions I feel like this;

    It cannot cross their back wheel before a certain point, and it also cannot pass their front wheel at another point I think.
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    (Original post by crocker710)
    watching some of the olympic competitions I feel like this;

    Would rep but have none left
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    Re: Womens Team Sprint Disqualifications
    The thing I don't get is that the GB team were relegated before their final and so lost all hope of a medal. They didn't just get shifted one place down. China do exactly the same thing but in the final and still get silver. How does that work? Surely they should have been out of it altogether.

    ETA: They just explained it on the tv. Apparently, you go to the bottom of whatever round you're in. So the fact that China had already earnt a place in the final means that the only get relegated to the bottom of the top two.
    Last edited by coolh5000; 02-08-2012 at 18:51.
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    Re: Womens Team Sprint Disqualifications
    (Original post by coolh5000)
    The thing I don't get is that the GB team were relegated before their final and so lost all hope of a medal. They didn't just get shifted one place down. China do exactly the same thing but in the final and still get silver. How does that work? Surely they should have been out of it altogether.

    ETA: They just explained it on the tv. Apparently, you go to the bottom of whatever round you're in. So the fact that China had already earnt a place in the final means that the only get relegated to the bottom of the top two.
    because they were in the final when that happened, whatever they do they're guarenteed a silver


    either way its a complete farce, noone wants to lose or win like this
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    Would rep but have none left
    (Original post by johnharris19944)
    Rep'd you haha made me laugh !
    It's appreciated
    Last edited by crocker710; 02-08-2012 at 19:18.
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    (Original post by crocker710)
    It's appreciated anyway
    Rep'd you haha made me laugh !
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    Re: Womens Team Sprint Disqualifications
    (Original post by rcummins1)
    In sprint cycling, you're only allowed to overtake in a certain zone (similar to baton changing in relay races).

    The British rider overtook quite a bit before the line so their disqualification is fair enough, but the Chinese seemed to be equal when they crossed the line. Harsh decision for them if you ask me.

    (Original post by crocker710)
    As far as I understand it;
    The second rider's front wheel cannot pass the back wheel of the first rider before a certain point - they crossed before that point in both cases.

    However watching some of the olympic competitions I feel like this;

    Oh, ok, that makes sense I suppose. They just showed another replay of the GB disqualification on BBC1 and that seems to agree with what you are saying. Such a shame considering we could, probably would, have got another gold medal.
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    Re: Womens Team Sprint Disqualifications
    (Original post by crocker710)
    It's appreciated
    What movie is that from by the way its bugging me haha
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    What movie is that from by the way its bugging me haha
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    Re: Womens Team Sprint Disqualifications
    (Original post by coolh5000)
    The thing I don't get is that the GB team were relegated before their final and so lost all hope of a medal. They didn't just get shifted one place down. China do exactly the same thing but in the final and still get silver. How does that work? Surely they should have been out of it altogether.

    ETA: They just explained it on the tv. Apparently, you go to the bottom of whatever round you're in. So the fact that China had already earnt a place in the final means that the only get relegated to the bottom of the top two.
    I still don't get it. China were in the round of 2 (the final), fouled, so ended up second. Britain were in the round of 4 (the semi-finals), fouled, yet ended up 8th? Not that it matters in the grand scheme of things, 4th and 8th go down as the same in terms of medallists, but it'd be nice to know why they did what they did

    Edit: nvm, they went out in the round of 8, it was the BBC article saying they raced Ukraine in the semi-finals that threw me.
    Last edited by Hopple; 02-08-2012 at 23:05.
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    See that's what I'm confused about, I thought they wold have been able to go for a Bronze medal :/ I didn't watch it as I was at work, so it probably was explained why, but at current I'm still confused.
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    I personally think someone had their money on Germany. How anyone could have come to the conclusion that China broke the rules is beyond me.
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    I can't believe that Germany won without being the fastest at any stage. They got in the final by default and won by default.

    Still, as the BBC commentator said, 'rules are rules'.
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    I personally think someone had their money on Germany. How anyone could have come to the conclusion that China broke the rules is beyond me.
    China were 1/20 and Germany were 8/1. Imagine the money that people lost on China.
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    I'm glad this thread is full of people who understand what actually happened. I was reading twitter earlier and some people just amaze me. The commissaires I admit were being ridiculously harsh with China but in a way I'm glad they're being consistent, unlike at the world championships.

    I also read some absolutely disgusting tweet from a girl from Newcastle (I felt like hunting her down) saying she was "disgusted that the German flag was raised at the Olympics #dirtygermans" I could not believe my eyes when I read it.

    My main issue with the China relegation is not the decision itself, but the way in which it was handled. If there was any query at all they should have announced the result as under question and not let the Chinese or German teams go speak to the interviewers. They should never have let it get that far, especially not without informing them first.

    I have taken a disliking to one of the commissaires since the world championships. His face annoys me. :p:
    Last edited by siani-chan; 02-08-2012 at 23:27.
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    Re: Womens Team Sprint Disqualifications
    The referee made a mistake in the womens fencing semi-final too, but I don't you advertising petitions to have that overturned, either... In any case, there is no appealing process in the Olympics.
    (Original post by siani-chan)
    I'm glad this thread is full of people who understand what actually happened. I was reading twitter earlier and some people just amaze me. The commissaires I admit were being ridiculously harsh with China but in a way I'm glad they're being consistent, unlike at the world championships.

    I also read some absolutely disgusting tweet from a girl from Newcastle (I felt like hunting her down) saying she was "disgusted that the German flag was raised at the Olympics #dirtygermans" I could not believe my eyes when I read it.

    My main issue with the China relegation is not the decision itself, but the way in which it was handled. If there was any query at all they should have announced the result as under question and not let the Chinese or German teams go speak to the interviewers. They should never have let it get that far, especially not without informing them first.

    I have taken a disliking to one of the commissaires since the world championships. His face annoys me. :p:
    You'd be staggered how common that view is in the North east. Living here feels like living on another planet, and not in a good way.
    Last edited by Abiraleft; 03-08-2012 at 14:12.
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    (Original post by Astronomical)
    The referee made a mistake in the womens fencing semi-final too, but I don't you advertising petitions to have that overturned, either... In any case, there is no appealing process in the Olympics.

    You'd be staggered how common that view is in the North east. Living here feels like living on another planet, and not in a good way.
    Oh gosh. I really don't understand how some people can be so intolerant - I especially don't understand why some people are so against Germans in particular. I admit that I find many other cultures and languages fascinating so obviously I am very tolerant, but I really can't get my head around why some people aren't.
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