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It's decided then - Boris is to replace Cameron
Rupe and Wendy (watch out, pie throwers!) are flying over to spend time as Boris's guests of honour at the Olympics tomorrow. (Cameron's is Putin) According to the Guardian, the decision is now made - Cameron is to be replaced. Rupe has ordained it to be so. Apparently he is now interested in Britain again. All is forgiven and we can look forward to many more years of Rupe's manic control, er, thoughtful intervention in our way of life and choice of leaders.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...prime-minister
Boris is such a wonderful choice! Rarely has a man so knowledgeable, so open and honest about his policy views and so understanding of our economic issues been selected for PM. But Rupert says it will be so, so trust him, it will. -
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I don't think anyone trusts Rupert atm. I'd love Boris to be Tory leader. Will be an easy win for Labour. Boris is a nice guy, but he's not PM material in a million years.
EDIT: all the negs. I honestly can't see the public favouring a man to be the face of the UK like BoJo. For all of Ed's weaknesses, I still think he'd be seen as the serious figure when people have a good think. See his speeches and the television debate of course. BoJo would get killed on TV debates. You should come to london if you don't live here and go to one of his speeches. They're fun but not PM style. And during a debate, I seriously can't see him competing.
Tbh, he's done very little for London. Mayor is just a popularity contest, Labour wins more seats in the GLA. Popular doesn't mean good.Last edited by gonnabesomething; 03-08-2012 at 14:51. -
Re: It's decided then - Boris is to replace CameronAgreed, he doesnt have the capacity to tackle the job as PM(Original post by gonnabesomething)
I don't think anyone trusts Rupert atm. I'd love Boris to be Tory leader. Will be an easy win for Labour. Boris is a nice guy, but he's not PM material in a million years. -
Re: It's decided then - Boris is to replace Cameron(Original post by khaiser turian)
Agreed, he doesnt have the capacity to tackle the job as PM
Try and imagine we're in June 2015 and he's just been elected. Suddenly North Korea increases its Nuclear Weapon haul or threatens to lauch one at South Korea because one of their boats was sunk by a torpedo, could you imagine BoJo sat with Obama in the White House having a serious discussion... Knowing BoJo, he'd crack a joke. It's the way he is, I do love his character, but there's a time and a place. For PM, I'm sure most of Britain want a serious guy in number 10.
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Re: It's decided then - Boris is to replace CameronJust watched when Boris met Dave on 4OD apparently Boris is the big politics big dog. Dave was just some cooler dude that can play the drums.(Original post by gonnabesomething)
Try and imagine we're in June 2015 and he's just been elected. Suddenly North Korea increases its Nuclear Weapon haul or threatens to lauch one at South Korea because one of their boats was sunk by a torpedo, could you imagine BoJo sat with Obama in the White House having a serious discussion... Knowing BoJo, he'd crack a joke. It's the way he is, I do love his character, but there's a time and a place. For PM, I'm sure most of Britain want a serious guy in number 10.
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Re: It's decided then - Boris is to replace Cameronlol, that programme was awful!(Original post by internetguru)
Just watched when Boris met Dave on 4OD apparently Boris is the big politics big dog. Dave was just some cooler dude that can play the drums.
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Re: It's decided then - Boris is to replace Cameron
Yeah because he has the power to do that and it's not even like he has decided anything and Boris hasn't even decided to run. If Boris even wins, it won't be because of Murdoch. If you check out the site that represents middle England according to Guardian, Boris has had support to be PM for quite some time. Powerful and influence doesn't equal omnipotence. But, you know conspiracytards gonna conspiracytard.
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Re: It's decided then - Boris is to replace Cameron
Boris is a pretender. He works constantly on his bluff, amiable, ordinary cheerful English bloke down the pub act. The reality is very, very different. He is a serial womaniser, a self-absorbed vain egoist who thinks only he knows what to do and he is notoriously, absolutely notoriously, bad at organising, administering, governing or deciding. His staff in London have mostly left; he is incapable of sticking to decisions - he is a political will o' the wisp who slides between complete policy opposites on a whim if he detects a change in the wind.
He is very electable, because of the act he puts on, but he would be absolutely uninterested in the real business of government once elected. Therefore the real power would reside with other, unelected friends. Who better than a certain Mr Murdoch? I think that's the plan.
Oh and in case people think "he's one of us", just take note of the fact that a large majority of his meetings since he became Mayor have not been with ordinary people. His calendar is dominated by chats with hedge fund managers, tax lawyers, investors and bankers. He is the City Man's City Man. -
Re: It's decided then - Boris is to replace CameronIf anyone had the inside track on who would follow David Cameron as leader of the Conservative Party, it certainly wouldn't be the ****ing Guardian.(Original post by Fires)
According to the Guardian, the decision is now made - Cameron is to be replaced. -
Re: It's decided then - Boris is to replace CameronReally? Against Miliprat? Walkover for Boris.(Original post by gonnabesomething)
I'd love Boris to be Tory leader. Will be an easy win for Labour. Boris is a nice guy, but he's not PM material in a million years.
A real politician against Boris and you'd be right, but Miliband is an empty shirt. A bent paperclip has more charisma. -
Re: It's decided then - Boris is to replace Cameron(Original post by Drewski)
Really? Against Miliprat? Walkover for Boris.
A real politician against Boris and you'd be right, but Miliband is an empty shirt. A bent paperclip has more charisma.
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Re: It's decided then - Boris is to replace CameronYes, this latest move of his to support Boris will be something to do with his tax affairs, or those of News International - the Cameron govt has been a little less generous with the tax breaks than they are "supposed" to be - Boris has been making all the right noises on this subject. Rupe's policies are mainly to do with paying less taxes and installing governments that comply. His newspapers "patriotism" is often at odds - so for example, on days when the Sun is "backing Britain", NI papers in other countries will be busy slagging Britain off.(Original post by Alofleicester)
Murdoch is a slimey little **** who neither knows or cares what's good for the country, only what is good for himself.
Murdoch's own position has always been that he regards the British with disdain - he thinks the UK is a backwards country, he hates the monarchy (presumably because he would sooner have his own chap in that job) and he is fiercely anti-British in general. -
Re: It's decided then - Boris is to replace CameronHe's certainly not the most... charismatic of characters...(Original post by Drewski)
And we'd need it pointed out that Miliband was dead - there's no other way we could tell.
Really don't know who I'd vote for if it was Milly vs Boris. Milly just does nothing for me and whilst I love Boris for the comical gold he comes out with, he is still a Tory. A lovable one, but still a Tory. Still, he can't do any worse than this or the last government and this country could do with a moral boosting laugh. I think if we were in time of prosperity, Boris would be a shoe in. -
Re: It's decided then - Boris is to replace CameronGotta be honest, I do vote Tory anyway, but that's solely because I know my local MP. He lives near me, he says hello if he's walking the dogs and he helped out when a few of us from the area all had our student loans completely borked a few years ago.(Original post by mikeyd85)
He's certainly not the most... charismatic of characters...
Really don't know who I'd vote for if it was Milly vs Boris. Milly just does nothing for me and whilst I love Boris for the comical gold he comes out with, he is still a Tory. A lovable one, but still a Tory. Still, he can't do any worse than this or the last government and this country could do with a moral boosting laugh. I think if we were in time of prosperity, Boris would be a shoe in.
And without meaning to sound all preachy, I think that's the right kind of reason to vote for a local MP. -
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Re: It's decided then - Boris is to replace CameronI completely agree - people can argue that this is good for the country, but it's not why Murdoch would support it. Murdoch would be backing Cam-moron if he'd been more helpful to Murdoch re. tax breaks, the phone hacking enquiry etc.(Original post by Fires)
Yes, this latest move of his to support Boris will be something to do with his tax affairs, or those of News International - the Cameron govt has been a little less generous with the tax breaks than they are "supposed" to be - Boris has been making all the right noises on this subject. Rupe's policies are mainly to do with paying less taxes and installing governments that comply. His newspapers "patriotism" is often at odds - so for example, on days when the Sun is "backing Britain", NI papers in other countries will be busy slagging Britain off.
Murdoch's own position has always been that he regards the British with disdain - he thinks the UK is a backwards country, he hates the monarchy (presumably because he would sooner have his own chap in that job) and he is fiercely anti-British in general.
Try and imagine we're in June 2015 and he's just been elected. Suddenly North Korea increases its Nuclear Weapon haul or threatens to lauch one at South Korea because one of their boats was sunk by a torpedo, could you imagine BoJo sat with Obama in the White House having a serious discussion... Knowing BoJo, he'd crack a joke. It's the way he is, I do love his character, but there's a time and a place. For PM, I'm sure most of Britain want a serious guy in number 10.
