Does your fruit intake HAVE to be from solid fruit?
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Does your fruit intake HAVE to be from solid fruit?Right so I probably don't get my 5 a day, but I'm trying to work on that to see if a better diet gives me more energy.
Problem is I'm dyspraxic and although others with the diagnosis may jump in now and say they eat all fruit with no issues, personally I find my oral toleration to overly textured food is an issue when it comes to fruit. I love the flavour of fruit, but find basically all fruits I've tried quite unpleasant to eat, many make me gag, it's hard to describe as those who like the fruits I don't often don't even agree their texture is as I describe them. Only apple, grapes and banana are okay and even then I'm not keen.
So to combat the lack of fruit I eat (as I find vegetables fine) I drink not from concentrate fruit juices which I enjoy greatly and I'm now beginning to drink smoothies as well.
I was just wondering if getting the nutrition from fruit in the form of juice and smoothies is okay? Logically a smoothie is just blended fruit, so the vitamins and minerals in the fruit should still be fine. The roughage may be lessened as so I suppose, especially with juice, the fibre is lacking. However I don't think I lack fibre in my diet, it's more the vitamins and minerals.
Also as a side-note, is the idea of the 5 a day rule that all 5 portions are totally different fruits/veg, or would say 2 apples, 2 portion of peas, 1 portion of carrots, be acceptable?
Clearly I know the 5 a day thing is quite arbitrary.Last edited by joey11223; 03-08-2012 at 00:08. -
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Re: Does your fruit intake HAVE to be from solid fruit?I think they can count, but only for one of your five...
Ok, juice can be a max of 1, smoothies a max of 2
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/5ADAY/Pages/Whatcounts.aspx
Lots of info there on what counts, and also full lists so you can try and find something which you can have
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EDIT: I thought I'd add, it's probably still better than nothing to have smoothies!Last edited by kpwxx; 03-08-2012 at 00:09. -
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Re: Does your fruit intake HAVE to be from solid fruit?Oh thanks for that, hmm it states juice is only one because of there not being fibre, but then says a potato can't be classed as 1 of your 5 a day because it's starchy, despite being a good source of fibre! haha(Original post by kpwxx)
I think they can count, but only for one of your five...
Ok, juice can be a max of 1, smoothies a max of 2
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/5ADAY/Pages/Whatcounts.aspx
Lots of info there on what counts, and also full lists so you can try and find something which you can have
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EDIT: I thought I'd add, it's probably still better than nothing to have smoothies! -
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Re: Does your fruit intake HAVE to be from solid fruit?I know, it's odd!(Original post by joey11223)
Oh thanks for that, hmm it states juice is only one because of there not being fibre, but then says a potato can't be classed as 1 of your 5 a day because it's starchy, despite being a good source of fibre! haha
I guess it's because the five a day thing is meant to be a combination of fibre, vitamins etc. rather than just one sided. Plus I imagine it wouldn't be good for you to just eat tonnes of potatoes!
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Re: Does your fruit intake HAVE to be from solid fruit?I've always wondered... Is drinking a 100% pure fruit smoothie (such as innocent) the same as just eating the fruit contained in smoothie separately? It would obviously make sense as you haven't actually lost anything in the blending process, but it just seems as though the fruit by itself would provide more fibre/nutrients...
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Re: Does your fruit intake HAVE to be from solid fruit?Surely if the exact same fruit is blended into a smoothie it won't lose any nutrients?(Original post by brunettej)
Its better if you eat solid fruit- way more nutrients -
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Re: Does your fruit intake HAVE to be from solid fruit?Thats true, I didn't think of a smoothie(Original post by UKiwi)
Surely if the exact same fruit is blended into a smoothie it won't lose any nutrients?
I was thinking of fruit juices that are not fresh/don't have fibreLast edited by brunettej; 03-08-2012 at 00:24. -
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(Original post by UKiwi)
Surely if the exact same fruit is blended into a smoothie it won't lose any nutrients?I think the way the fruit is mushed/ cut up has an effect... Releases stuff in a certain way, causes a reaction or something. I know this sounds odd because ask the stuff should still be there. But I'm sure I remember something about that being why smoothies are different.(Original post by brunettej)
Thats true, I didn't think of a smoothie
I was thinking of fruit juices that are not fresh/don't have fibre
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Re: Does your fruit intake HAVE to be from solid fruit?I can never understand people who like vegetables and not fruit. Fruit is clearly sweeter and juicier. It's like those people who like running and not cycling. Running is clearly tougher, more painful and slower.
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Re: Does your fruit intake HAVE to be from solid fruit?yes, but, juices don't stack. IE although one glass of a smoothie might be 2 of your five a day, another glass of the SAME smoothie wouldn't then = 4 of your five a day.
You could blend them yourself to make sure you're getting it fresh?
Aim for different colours, cucumber tastes great in a smoothie! -
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Re: Does your fruit intake HAVE to be from solid fruit?Surely that happens in your stomach/mouth anyway? So if you create a smoothie and drink it there and then, it really should have similar nutrients?(Original post by kpwxx)
I think the way the fruit is mushed/ cut up has an effect... Releases stuff in a certain way, causes a reaction or something. I know this sounds odd because ask the stuff should still be there. But I'm sure I remember something about that being why smoothies are different.
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Though the "rules" are rubbish anyway! Five is a random number plucked from the air (largely because the government don't believe they can convince people to eat more than that so have basically given up) and the restriction on fruit juices, I believe, is largely because of the high sugar content and not a lack of nutrients persae (though I really don't know much about how well the nutrients survive the process - if it's pasteurised/concentrated I'd wager not very well, if it's fresh I'd wager reasonably).
I personally wouldn't get too obsessed by the numbers (and if you like vegetables but don't like fruit - there is absolutely no reason to force yourself to eat fruit as well, just increase the variety of vegetables you eat!) - just try and eat as much of a variety of fruit and veg as you can, as regularly as you can. Especially as "5 a day" shouldn't really be a target, it should be a minimum. Certainly don't micro-manage it and worry whether you can have 2 apples or you should only have one and have a pear instead against your will! That will do virtually no good at all! -
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Re: Does your fruit intake HAVE to be from solid fruit?Strictly according to the rules, you could mix the juices of 15 fruits together and it would only count as one. The rules aren't overly logical when you micro-manage your diet based on them, they are just there as guidelines to try and increase the variety and quantity of fruit/veg you eat.(Original post by Samus2)
yes, but, juices don't stack. IE although one glass of a smoothie might be 2 of your five a day, another glass of the SAME smoothie wouldn't then = 4 of your five a day.
You could blend them yourself to make sure you're getting it fresh?
Aim for different colours, cucumber tastes great in a smoothie!
It's completely illogical, for example, that the fresh juice of a pineapple, banana, grapes, carrot and tomato mixed together has the same nutritional qualities as a glass of from-concentrate orange juice! They are rough guidelines, not rules! -
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Re: Does your fruit intake HAVE to be from solid fruit?I am in that camp. I would say that running is slower but definitely not more painful or harder; it is a different type of exercise and stresses you in a different way but if your fitness was already up from cycling - you would adapt to it pretty quickly.(Original post by Podcaster)
It's like those people who like running and not cycling. Running is clearly tougher, more painful and slower.
Running is just more relaxing and comfortable to me and hill runs are definitely easier than cycling uphill! -
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Re: Does your fruit intake HAVE to be from solid fruit?In Australia they apparently recommend a minimum of 5 veg and a maximum of 2 fruit a day...so if you like veg you could do that. Fruit juice/smoothies do count but you lose a lot of the fibre that you'd have gained from eating the actual fruit itself, due to the blending/juicing process. Have you tried something like pomegranate seeds?
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Re: Does your fruit intake HAVE to be from solid fruit?it's not the taste of the fruit, I do like that it's sweet, it's just a lot of fruit seems more textured, maybe partially because you cook vegetables more often then fruit, which softens them.(Original post by Podcaster)
I can never understand people who like vegetables and not fruit. Fruit is clearly sweeter and juicier. It's like those people who like running and not cycling. Running is clearly tougher, more painful and slower.
I mean peppers are treated as vegetables, don't know if in fact a bell pepper is a fruit? Either way, I'd rather eat a red or yellow bell pepper raw, just as you'd eat an apple, then have say a mango, orange etc. In fairness red peppers are nutritionally superior to oranges, including vit C content.
