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Re: Predict the winners of the 5 leagues - 2012/2013That may be your opinion but I doubt the fans of those clubs will agree with you. How is travelling up and down the country on a cold, wet Tuesday night to see your team play in the 3rd/4th/5th division not loyal?(Original post by Manchester United)
I doesn't matter what you say, it's fact that a lot less people care about those lower leagues. There's a reason why Sky don't show them unless they're at Wembley or something.
I don't think of their fans as 'loyal', it's just that the tickets are dirt cheap and they have nothing better to do/their mates want to do the same thing/good day out etc.
Perhaps a lot of the lower league players are hard working, but so are the players in the top division. I never really questioned their work ethic to be honest.
Sky isn't going to show a lower league game because most of the people who have an interest in that match will actually be at the game. You can't say the same thing for a club like Man Utd etc. They will just sit at home and not waste their hard-earned money to watch 'their' team.
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All you saying Sheffield United are going to win League 1 next season are brain dead. Don't you know all the money troubles they in at the club? They ain't able to keep their best players, they've got a manager that's a bottler, they'll be lucky to finish in play offs in my opinion.
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Re: Predict the winners of the 5 leagues - 2012/2013sheffield united would have gone up last season, if it wasent for ched the rapist being sent away. im not sure about thier summer activitys, but league 1 seems weaker this season and if sheffield united have maintained the core of thier squad and bought another striker they will win the league comfortably(Original post by JamieGriffin)
All you saying Sheffield United are going to win League 1 next season are brain dead. Don't you know all the money troubles they in at the club? They ain't able to keep their best players, they've got a manager that's a bottler, they'll be lucky to finish in play offs in my opinion.
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Exactly, but they don't have Ched and have made barely any signings this summer, they haven't been able to keep hold of their second best player, Lowton. Even if they did keep Lowton and signed another striker they would not win league 1 comfortably whatsoever, it's a tough league. They were 5 points clear and had 2 games in hand on Sheffield Wednesday with only about 10 games left to play, and then Sheffield Wednesday finished above them.(Original post by bluester)
sheffield united would have gone up last season, if it wasent for ched the rapist being sent away. im not sure about thier summer activitys, but league 1 seems weaker this season and if sheffield united have maintained the core of thier squad and bought another striker they will win the league comfortably
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Re: Predict the winners of the 5 leagues - 2012/2013it is a tough league but not as tough as last year - with charlton, sheff wed and huddersfield gone, no real quality has come in from the championship (except perhaps coventry). from league 2 swindon may mount a charge at promotion. tbh there is no stand-out candidate for promotion but sheffield united i think are most likely. in fairness same goes for L2, there is no stand out candidates to win(Original post by JamieGriffin)
Exactly, but they don't have Ched and have made barely any signings this summer, they haven't been able to keep hold of their second best player, Lowton. Even if they did keep Lowton and signed another striker they would not win league 1 comfortably whatsoever, it's a tough league. They were 5 points clear and had 2 games in hand on Sheffield Wednesday with only about 10 games left to play, and then Sheffield Wednesday finished above them.
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Re: Predict the winners of the 5 leagues - 2012/2013Rotherham and Fleetwood?(Original post by bluester)
it is a tough league but not as tough as last year - with charlton, sheff wed and huddersfield gone, no real quality has come in from the championship (except perhaps coventry). from league 2 swindon may mount a charge at promotion. tbh there is no stand-out candidate for promotion but sheffield united i think are most likely. in fairness same goes for L2, there is no stand out candidates to win -
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Re: Predict the winners of the 5 leagues - 2012/2013so how about chesterfield, southend, wycombe, bristol rovers, oxford and gillingham(Original post by Formerly Helpful_C)
Rotherham and Fleetwood?
fleetwood are a good team but when was he last time a team came out of the conference and won the league (even though many get promoted). as for rotherham they are a strong team but by no means certain of promotion -
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Re: Predict the winners of the 5 leagues - 2012/2013What about them?(Original post by bluester)
so how about chesterfield, southend, wycombe, bristol rovers, oxford and gillingham
fleetwood are a good team but when was he last time a team came out of the conference and won the league (even though many get promoted). as for rotherham they are a strong team but by no means certain of promotion
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Re: Predict the winners of the 5 leagues - 2012/2013Totally agree, it's very tight this season. Favourites could include MK Dons, Preston and even Swindon.(Original post by JamieGriffin)
All you saying Sheffield United are going to win League 1 next season are brain dead. Don't you know all the money troubles they in at the club? They ain't able to keep their best players, they've got a manager that's a bottler, they'll be lucky to finish in play offs in my opinion.
I don't think it will be Sheffield United either though.
Rotherham and Fleetwood are the favourites, but I've gone for Rotherham.(Original post by bluester)
so how about chesterfield, southend, wycombe, bristol rovers, oxford and gillingham
fleetwood are a good team but when was he last time a team came out of the conference and won the league (even though many get promoted). as for rotherham they are a strong team but by no means certain of promotion
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They just lost to Burton Albion, with a full strength squad out, if they cant win that, they ain't gonna win league.(Original post by bluester)
it is a tough league but not as tough as last year - with charlton, sheff wed and huddersfield gone, no real quality has come in from the championship (except perhaps coventry). from league 2 swindon may mount a charge at promotion. tbh there is no stand-out candidate for promotion but sheffield united i think are most likely. in fairness same goes for L2, there is no stand out candidates to win
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Someone who talks a bit of sense(Original post by Beatlemania)
Totally agree, it's very tight this season. Favourites could include MK Dons, Preston and even Swindon.
I don't think it will be Sheffield United either though.
Rotherham and Fleetwood are the favourites, but I've gone for Rotherham.
Don't doubt Fleetwood though, they have loads of money to back them as well.
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Re: Predict the winners of the 5 leagues - 2012/2013Having watched the Community Shield today on tv, I'm not convinced by Chelsea. I personally don't think they are strong enough to challenge. Ok, Manchester City are on the of the best attacking teams in Europe, but they totally controlled the game for the first 30 minutes and should have scored at least one goal.
Ivanovic is still a natural centre back, I will always think this. Other than young Sam Hutchinson, Chelsea have no back up for right back. I'm still not convinced by Luiz either. Ok, they've signed three attacking-minded players, but does that make up for the loss of Kalou and in particular Drogba? I doubt it. -
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Re: Predict the winners of the 5 leagues - 2012/2013After watching the Community Shield today, I have to agree they didn't exactly look brilliant. But had Ivanovic not been sent off they would've proved a much more solid defensive unit and certainly wouldn't have conceded 3 goals.(Original post by Beatlemania)
Having watched the Community Shield today on tv, I'm not convinced by Chelsea. I personally don't think they are strong enough to challenge. Ok, Manchester City are on the of the best attacking teams in Europe, but they totally controlled the game for the first 30 minutes and should have scored at least one goal.
Ivanovic is still a natural centre back, I will always think this. Other than young Sam Hutchinson, Chelsea have no back up for right back. I'm still not convinced by Luiz either. Ok, they've signed three attacking-minded players, but does that make up for the loss of Kalou and in particular Drogba? I doubt it. -
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Re: Predict the winners of the 5 leagues - 2012/2013Having watched the Community Shield last season, I wasn't convinced by City. They went 2-0 up completely against the run of play against United and couldn't even hold out for a draw, with 11 men on the pitch.(Original post by Beatlemania)
Having watched the Community Shield today on tv, I'm not convinced by Chelsea. I personally don't think they are strong enough to challenge. Ok, Manchester City are on the of the best attacking teams in Europe, but they totally controlled the game for the first 30 minutes and should have scored at least one goal.
Ivanovic is still a natural centre back, I will always think this. Other than young Sam Hutchinson, Chelsea have no back up for right back. I'm still not convinced by Luiz either. Ok, they've signed three attacking-minded players, but does that make up for the loss of Kalou and in particular Drogba? I doubt it.
I don't get where you're saying they should've scored one goal in the first 30 minutes- what good chances did they create? As far as I'm aware we had the best chance of the game up til that point, which was the first goal. We started getting back into the game the last 15 minutes and looked threatening. Then Ivanovic got sent off and we had it all to do. It's gonna be difficult to judge a performance when the team is playing with only 10 men. I'm not going to say we deserved to win, but that sending off effectively killed the game for us, even if we were a goal up.
If you want to pick holes at teams, we can do this. We aren't as good as City, but take Kompany out, and their defence looks really vulnerable- case in point vs Tottenham at home, with Savic responsible for both of Tottenham's goals.
I'm not convinced we will win the league either, but that's mainly because our new players need time to get into our system of playing. Judging how a team will do in the season based on one game is very ill-informed. You might as well say Brighton will beat Man City as they had a better result than them in a pre-season friendly against Chelsea -
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Re: Predict the winners of the 5 leagues - 2012/2013I wish it was that easy but the last 2 times United have won the league, they didn't have a great start and many people were predicting Chelsea would almost run away with it (2008-09 and 2010-11) and on both occasions United won the league quite comfortably in the end.(Original post by Beatlemania)
Of course I'm not judging them for the rest of the season. It's in the first few games you can tell.
The league isn't won or decided in the first few weeks but in the last few weeks. Obviously, getting good results throughout the season would help, but the title is won at the end of the season
