[RtGOAT]

Yeah but it was GB so



And we have the nerve to lecture others on equality...

[jimcatinnes]

How could he not fall though? They can't get their feet out and the angle that the track is at, if he couldn't move the front wheel what else was going to happen?

[Anythingoo1]

Ok, so it's within the rules, fair enough, fair enough.

Let me just ask though, if a foreign country had applied this tactic, and then gone on to beat GB, would you guys say it was a legitimate tactic?

I wouldn't say it was parallel to badminton though...

[Atmos]

(Original post by Anythingoo1)
Ok, so it's within the rules, fair enough, fair enough.

Let me just ask though, if a foreign country had applied this tactic, and then gone on to beat GB, would you guys say it was a legitimate tactic?

I wouldn't say it was parallel to badminton though...

I'm saying it's legitimate because it is. It's not a 'tactic', it doesn't benefit them.

[Anythingoo1]

(Original post by Atmos)
I'm saying it's legitimate because it is. It's not a 'tactic', it doesn't benefit them.

Haha, I like how you dodged my question

[Tortious]

(Original post by Lunch_Box)
Strange how this doesn't make it into British media...

It was on Breakfast at about 7:30am this morning. I saw the interview - the guy explained that he'd fallen off due to a fault. When asked "were you trying to pull a fast one?", he said "yes, I wanted the fastest time".

The presenters pointed out that English isn't his first language, and he probably heard "fast" and therefore said "yes".

[lonelykatana]

(Original post by Anythingoo1)
Ok, so it's within the rules, fair enough, fair enough.

Let me just ask though, if a foreign country had applied this tactic, and then gone on to beat GB, would you guys say it was a legitimate tactic?

Yep, I personally would. It's something that happens in cycling pretty often, so I'd have no problem with being on the receiving end either.
If I was a rider who had a mechanical I'd probably use the same tactic, and if I was an opponent of a rider with a technical I'd be happier to restart that to beat them handicapped which to be fair is a pretty standard way of seeing things in cycling.
For example general classification riders will refuse ride in the jersey if they gained it through another rides misfortune, for example a crash!
Lance did it in the tour a few years back

[Lunch_Box]

(Original post by Tortious)
It was on Breakfast at about 7:30am this morning. I saw the interview - the guy explained that he'd fallen off due to a fault. When asked "were you trying to pull a fast one?", he said "yes, I wanted the fastest time".

The presenters pointed out that English isn't his first language, and he probably heard "fast" and therefore said "yes".

Wasn't on the front news headlines like the badminton or the cycling. I don't even think there was a BBC article on it.

[f1mad]

It's a legitimate, standard procedure.

[YMLT]

(Original post by Anythingoo1)
Ok, so it's within the rules, fair enough, fair enough.

Let me just ask though, if a foreign country had applied this tactic, and then gone on to beat GB, would you guys say it was a legitimate tactic?

I wouldn't say it was parallel to badminton though...

If another country did it, I'd accept it, because it was a perfectly legitimate course of action and is within the rules.

It's completely different to what happened in the Badminton.

[Converse Rocker]

He either got the restart or did the whole race with a mechanical fault, no doubt ruining any chance of success or even a contest. I don't think it's comparable to deliberately losing to try and get an easier draw.

[Converse Rocker]

(Original post by Anythingoo1)
Ok, so it's within the rules, fair enough, fair enough.

Let me just ask though, if a foreign country had applied this tactic, and then gone on to beat GB, would you guys say it was a legitimate tactic?

Yes, because I'd like our athletes to show we were better, rather than beating a team who had a bike crap out on them.

[Cll_ws]

I don't think it was a mistranslation as such, just a misunderstanding. He did fall off on purpose, but not in the sense that the media are making out, he fell off because he had to so that he would get the restart. He was entitled to a restart due to the mechanical error (his wheel slipping from under him when leaving the block) but if he had continued then they can only presume that he was happy to ignore the error.

I think when he says that it was planned to fall if the start was bad, he actually means that he's been taught that if there is an error then you are meant to fall to make it clear you want the restart, which is completely within the rules.

Nothing like the badminton. They went out to ruin their games. If in the cycling he hadn't of fallen, there wouldn't of even been a race because the others couldn't go on without him and he wouldn't of caught up! The gold medal would of been simply handed over, all because of a mechanical error that he couldn't of controlled. And anyway, GB gained no advantage on the other team by getting a restart.

[extom]

(Original post by Lunch_Box)
Strange how this doesn't make it into British media...

it was the most blatant bit of cheating seen at the entire games so far. It's incredible how its been swept under the carpet

[Jack93o]

nice to see that the 'olympic spirit' oath is duly used to punish foreigners and ignored for our boys



home advantage

[Adrian87]

Those who say it was cheating quite simply do not understand the dynamics of cycling, he fell off his bike due to his wheel slipping. Its quite obvious he couldnt stop it. For those that say otherwise obviously have never done track cycling. Its classed as a mechanical, the rules support what he did 100%. He just dosnt have the ability to explain what happend in a way that didnt unfairly incriminate them. Stop being cynical and jealous.
We should proud of all our gb atheletes, especially our cyclists who are in a league of their own. 1 missed place word from someone whose first language is english and you jump upon it. Just shows how little they have criticise if you jump upon something so blatanly a petty mistake.

[Historophilia]

(Original post by Squidgyness)
Yeah I know, I was just stating that those were the rules.

Just adding some details that you might not have been aware of, and for everyone else reading.

[silent ninja]

I love Samuel Jackson's tweet, everything but swear lol

"Like I said before, those BRITS are some PEDALIN', RECORD BREAKIN', MUTHACYCLINPHUCCAS!! Congrats UK!"

— Samuel L. Jackson (@SamuelLJackson) August 4, 2012

[Converse Rocker]

(Original post by extom)
it was the most blatant bit of cheating seen at the entire games so far. It's incredible how its been swept under the carpet

Pretty sure it's within the rules that you can get a restart in the case of a mechanical fault. Don't tell me you would turn up to the Olympics, find out your bike is broken, and then just think 'Ahh well, try again in another 4 years'.

I find this criticism ridiculous. I couldn't care less if another athlete did that, who wants to see a bike race where one of the teams can't even compete.

[lonelykatana]

(Original post by extom)
it was the most blatant bit of cheating seen at the entire games so far. It's incredible how its been swept under the carpet

Do you cycle? Have you ever ridden on a velodrome? Never mind riding competitively. I highly doubt it, so how about you stop pretending to be an expert for a couple of weeks every 4 years and making up rules as you go along?
That is one of the most annoying things about the olympics, suddenly everyone is an expert on sports they don't take part in, or even watch the rest of the year.

It is not cheating to fall off your bike due to a mechanical, its standard practice and happens commonly in competitive track cycling.
This is like all the people complaining about Cav not wining, asking 'why didn't he just catch the group ahead by him self'.