[2ndClass]

(Original post by Rat_Bag)
To add my first response to you post, what you wrote just proves to anybody that you cannot accept facts when they are placed in front of you. You have a totally biased mind which is in a deep deep state of denial

I disagree with 99.9% of everything perseverance says, but he does have a point.

If they're guilty, then good.

Anyway, why is this such "monumental" news? People have been killed for far more trivial reasons, or is it because they're Asians aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand Muslims?

[Rat_Bag]

(Original post by Maryam A)
2. The disgusting actions of these parents are not based on Islamic teachings because Islam does not order parents to murder their own children in 'fear of bringing shame to the family', or for dressing 'in a Western manner' or for refusing an arranged marriage for that matter.

This is total naivety. Islam nurtures a climate and community mindset where notions of honour (particularly of women), chastity, and disdain and revulsion for those that do not conform, that is is hardly surprising that this sort of thing happens within Islamic households. This sort of naivety that you display is just like those EDL supporters who claim that the EDL does not preach hate of people of specific communities, it just preaches the importance of a national culture and criticism of malign foreign cultures. Fact is, it isn't what the EDL instructs people to do, but the climate it nurtures, where real hate of Muslims is often the outcome.

[LiLix]

(Original post by Azaro)
what a lovely culture / religion islam is

..... And the funny thing is, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with Islam! Get it right please...

[AlmostChicGeek]

This is unbelievably shocking, I hope they rot in jail. It is all the worse that it happened in front of the other children and that stopped them from informing anyone else sooner.

[Iqbal007]

(Original post by Denacio)
Well they were islamic which means they have to abide by certain rules. Still, nothing she done could have been bad enough to have warranted death :/

Under Islam, their action is punished by the death penalty.
Nor are they allowed to force their children into marriage.

[Perseveranze]

(Original post by Dee Leigh)
But they chose to impose their barbaric ways, which is a bit hypocritical.

I know, but I'm just letting you know, that not everyone migrates to the west because they want to.

[hughcapet]

(Original post by Azaro)
what a lovely culture / religion islam is

To be fair, 'family honour' culture seems to have taken a hold in Asian families of all religions, whether they're Muslim, Hindu or Christian. Not that Muslims are known for their love and tolerance of Western culture.

[getfunky!]

Justice or close to it, it is a despicable act to commit especially on their own child

[Rat_Bag]

(Original post by 2ndClass)
I disagree with 99.9% of everything perseverance says, but he does have a point.

What is his point that you agree with?

(Original post by 2ndClass)
Anyway, why is this such "monumental" news? People have been killed for far more trivial reasons, or is it because they're Asians aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand Muslims?

Murders within families always attract a lot of media attention, particularly when it takes the narrative like a detective novel or crime series. What started out as a disappearance, became a suicide, and finally a murder. And there were layers and layers of drip drip revelations. Unfortunately, the public are titillated by forensics, and this had more quirks than usual

[Rat_Bag]

(Original post by LiLix)
..... And the funny thing is, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with Islam! Get it right please...

I doubt that without Islam, with all its moralising of sexuality (particularly women's sexuality), notions of purity, and revulsion of non-conformity, that this family would have been driven to do what they did.

[Azaro]

(Original post by LiLix)
..... And the funny thing is, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with Islam! Get it right please...

the fact that her oarents were islamic has absolutely NOTHING to do with the honour killings? just like the outer 93 % of all honour killings done worldwide done by muslims ?

[NuckingFut]

(Original post by Azaro)
the fact that her oarents were islamic has absolutely NOTHING to do with the honour killings? just like the outer 93 % of all honour killings done worldwide done by muslims ?

Seriously? Just leave.

[g_star_raw_1989]

Good to hear they were found guilty but shocking that they still showed no remorse or repentance.

[tammie123]

(Original post by g_star_raw_1989)
Good to hear they were found guilty but shocking that they still showed no remorse or repentance.

Apparently the mother was crying and wiping her eyes with a tissue. But the father showed absolutely no emotion. But then again the mother may have just been crying due to the fact that she was going to jail.

[Dee Leigh]

(Original post by tammie123)
Apparently the mother was crying and wiping her eyes with a tissue. But the father showed absolutely no emotion. But then again the mother may have just been crying due to the fact that she was going to jail.

Yes. And she also be upset that her 'plan' to point the blame did not work...and that she and her husband have not managed to get away with her murder this time.

This was posted from The Student Room's Android App on my GT-S5830

[Shushdotcom]

(Original post by Perseveranze)
Sounds like the mother squealed to try and save herself. As the girls testimony (the same testimony which came out after she tried to rob her parents, tie her parents and terrorize her parents) was seemingly going to be enough for conviction.

I guess, we'll never know what truly happened.



Some people didn't choose. For example, some people only went to a western country to escape persecution from the tyrants in their own country. I mean, it's not exactly too long ago, when people would escape the persecution in the west, by migrating to the east, it happens.

I think even if they fled from persecution, why raise their children under that same oppression, surrounded by a western culture?

[g_star_raw_1989]

(Original post by tammie123)
Apparently the mother was crying and wiping her eyes with a tissue. But the father showed absolutely no emotion. But then again the mother may have just been crying due to the fact that she was going to jail.

Yeah, I get the impression that they were just crocodile tears which makes it even more tragic.

[Perseveranze]

(Original post by Shushdotcom)
I think even if they fled from persecution, why raise their children under that same oppression, surrounded by a western culture?

If you actually read up on people like Gaddafi, Ben Ali, Mubarrak etc. You'd realise these tyrants wouldn't even let people exercise some of the basic aspects of their faith. If someone "prayed to much" he'd get persecuted, same for a person who "grew a beard, as that's being too religious". Of course, religion wasn't the only basis for persecution, there were many other reasons as well, to do with power and greed.

If you look at China today, they won't even let Muslims fast this ramadan (fasting is obligatory in Islam) and constantly have them under close watch.

By migrating to other countries, you're choosing the lesser of the two evils. I mean, at least you would be allowed to practice your faith - which is better than not being allowed practice it.

[kaboon-supreme]

(Original post by Indo-Chinese Food)
? Muslim community?

he means asians like you. pakistanis,indians and sikhs. basicly people from the sub-continent

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...boyfriend.html

[kaboon-supreme]

(Original post by Azaro)
the fact that her oarents were islamic has absolutely NOTHING to do with the honour killings? just like the outer 93 % of all honour killings done worldwide done by muslims ?

were did your christian ass get that statics from, do you have any prove or are you like the other 98% of christians who make up stitistics