[Sheldor]

(Original post by Dux_Helvetica)
Well pardon me for exaggerating then - although I find it hard to imagine Hitler rallying the German people against the common enemy of 'black people' when their numbers and presence most definitely pale in comparison to that of Jews (nearly all Germans will have never seen a black man or woman in their lives, and certainly not in person). The Jew had always existed as a scapegoat for problems in society and was simply brought up again.

He did discriminate against black people/ was racist. Jesse Owens at the Berlin Olympic games, anyone?


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[Ray Bradbury]

What is your definition of a racist?


Simple.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL0C2...ure=relatedews

[Barden]

(Original post by im so academic)
Surprisingly more often than it should occur. Think Starkey v Penny.

What Starkey said was just plain stupid. There's no such thing as 'black' or 'white' culture. How many people in Ethiopia do you think have heard a gangsta rap record?

Starkey should know better, which is probably one of the reasons for the backlash. If it'd been some dumbass, run-of-the-mill celebrity saying those things then maybe the exact meaning of what was said would be debateable.

[Barden]

(Original post by Sheldor)
He did discriminate against black people/ was racist. Jesse Owens at the Berlin Olympic games, anyone?


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Actually, Hitler didn't show any ill-will towards Owens... Owens said that himself.

In fact, Owens alleged that FDR snubbed him... I'll google for the quote...

"Hitler didn't snub me – it was FDR who snubbed me. The president didn't even send me a telegram."


Obviously Hitler was a racist, but don't argue your case with inaccurate information...

[Snagprophet]

I define it as prejudice on the basis of physical appearance, which is designed by your genes.

I don't include culture as race. Jokes about people from specified culture is not racist, as much as everyone seems to want it to be. I also don't include nationalities.

Something I have a problem with is when people like Top Gear makes fun of Americans 'they're all so fat and stupid' and Germans 'Can't pronounce ''squirrel''' and then if someone makes fun of Chinese people for not being to pronounce Ls it's somehow unacceptable and racist and if someone makes fun of Mexicans it's not acceptable. The problem with throwing 'racist' as a description willy nilly I find it just becomes a new blanket term, going even beyond 'prejudice' and into harmless jokes. The inconsistency is the thing I have a problem with more than the general newspeak, however.

[MrJim]

ONLY WHITE PEOPLE CAN BE RACIST BECAUSE OTHERS ARE TOO WEAK TO HAVE A SYSTEM THAT FORCIBLY DISCRIMINATES AGAINST THOSE OF COLOUR

THOSE WHO RIGHTFULLY OWN THIS EARTH

NOT THE EVIL PALE SKINNED CRACKERS

UH HUH HUH HUH HUH

Never mind the actual systematic discrimination against Europeans in regard to immigration policy in Lebanon or the massive amount of "positive" discrimination put in place in South African businesses. Just keep on playing the race card and shouting about how you were beaten, 200 years ago.

[sugar-n-spice]

(Original post by badcheesecrispy)
Hitler was anti semitic, not racist, which is why blacks etc wernt sent to his chambers

Hitler was racist. Jews who had converted to Christianity or Christians will even a small amount of Jewish ancestry were killed. He was racist against black ppl as well

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhineland_Bastard

Jews were responsible for bringing Negroes into the Rhineland, with the ultimate idea of bastardizing the white race which they hate and thus lowering its cultural and political level so that the Jew might dominate.-Adolf Hitler

Intradesting to see where the beliefs of the modern neo-Nazis come from.

[prog2djent]

The one in the damn dictionary, the one people used to understand, not the populist one used now.

"I hate black people, they shouldn't be allowed in our country, we should attack them in the street" - Racist, discrimination becuase of race, I call it "pre 2000 racism"

"The amount of white vs black crime in relation to population figures is disproportionate" - An Observation, now labelled racist simply beacuse race is involved and the subject is one of negativity. I call this "modern, neo-liberal and humanitarian racism"

[sugar-n-spice]

(Original post by prog2djent)
The one in the damn dictionary, the one people used to understand, not the populist one used now.

"I hate black people, they shouldn't be allowed in our country, we should attack them in the street" - Racist, discrimination becuase of race, I call it "pre 2000 racism"

"The amount of white vs black crime in relation to population figures is disproportionate" - An Observation, now labelled racist simply beacuse race is involved and the subject is one of negativity. I call this "modern, neo-liberal and humanitarian racism"

"a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others".

This is the definition of racism? What if I were to say black skin is superior to white skin if it's sunny and bright?

[Juichiro]

(Original post by im so academic)
I Googled the definition for it and it gave me this:

"a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others".

It seems to me that the word "racist" is just given to anybody who criticises:

*Another country's government
*Another country's culture
*Any individual(s) who happen to be of a different race
*Non-EU immigration
*Members of a religion which will go nameless
*Crime when caused by a certain race which will go nameless
*Honour killings etc. caused by a certain race which will go nameless

For all of the above, anyone that criticises those things are not racist.

I stick with the Google definition of what a racist is, but now it seems people just call anyone a racist that talks of anything that is politically incorrect. Even when it has nothing to do with race.

Your opinions?

Since when Google became an authority in the English language? Now not only Google controls our email flow, our web searches, etc. Now it also controls the language we speak?

[MrFlash1994]

(Original post by im so academic)
I Googled the definition for it and it gave me this:

"a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others".

It seems to me that the word "racist" is just given to anybody who criticises:

*Another country's government
*Another country's culture
*Any individual(s) who happen to be of a different race
*Non-EU immigration
*Members of a religion which will go nameless
*Crime when caused by a certain race which will go nameless
*Honour killings etc. caused by a certain race which will go nameless

For all of the above, anyone that criticises those things are not racist.

I stick with the Google definition of what a racist is, but now it seems people just call anyone a racist that talks of anything that is politically incorrect. Even when it has nothing to do with race.

Your opinions?

First of all you're wrong, as usual.

To me, a racist is someone who:

Discriminates against someone because of their race.
Someone who believes they are superior because of their race.
Someone who thinks other races are inferior.

And these basic definitions can come across in a variety of ways, so based on your previous threads I've come to the conclusion that you see the Chinese as inferior people, (at least to yourself and Americans). So I don't think its too farfetched to call you a racist. And I don't believe the majority of racists are ignorant or stupid. There have been some incredibly intelligent racists in the past, Woodrow Wilson for example.

[TurboCretin]

'Racist' has become a tool for putting down people who are otherwise prejudiced. That's misuse of language, and should be discouraged. Unfortunately it has correspondingly been used to criticise people with legitimate opposition to things like immigration. That's abuse of language, and should be abhorred.

Somehow it has also gathered so much stigma that being pelted with it will seemingly leave a stain no matter how hard you scrub.

[umarrehman187]

my defination of racist?


a white person

[TurboCretin]

My own definition, or description, would be "a person who holds a bias against one or more groups of people on the basis of their race". I don't think prejudice is the right word, actually, because it means that anyone who is biased against a particular race on the basis of personal experience wouldn't be a racist. I think that generalising characteristics of individuals to their entire race is still racism, irrespective of whether or not it's based on experience. Of course, he may still be prejudiced against individuals belonging to that race, in fact, he would be by definition.

My own idea of racism is a lot more negative than the dictionary's, in that I think of it as bias against certain races, rather than necessarily the attitude that one race is supreme.

[G56]

(Original post by badcheesecrispy)
Hitler was anti semitic, not racist, which is why blacks etc wernt sent to his chambers

[Kittiara]

I agree with the definition, and some of the other posters on this thread. If someone thinks they are superior because of their race, and that people from other races are inferior, and they discriminate against others because of this, then they are racist. However, I would personally include negative perceptions of people from a different race, when they lead to discrimination.

For example, if you are an employer and you hire person A instead of person B because person A is more suitable, that's fine and logical. If you hire person A instead of person B, even if their qualifications and suitability for the job are equal, because your first impression of person B is that you aren't going to get along on a personal level, then that's questionable, but probably natural, as it is helpful when there is a good relationship between employer and employee. If you hire person A instead of person B, even if their qualifications and suitability for the job are equal, because person B is from a different race and you have certain ideas about person B's race that aren't very favourable, then that's racist.

It is racist because person B is defined as belonging to a group of "others", a group that (in the racist's mind) has traits and characteristics that are not desirable. Person B should be judged as an individual, with individual traits and characteristics, but isn't.

In such a situation, the employer may not believe his or her race is superior, but because of the beliefs held about person B's race, he or she does feel that someone from a different race than person B's is preferable.

[cl_steele]

well according to the local pikey every one who looks at him is racist, 'iz it coz im blak bruv'
The term has been so diluted lately... i mean the Nazis were racist, that Greek athlete who posted a tweet ... toilette humour and grossly innapropriate sure but to brand her a racist is a bit extreme...

[badcheesecrispy]

(Original post by umarrehman187)
my defination of racist?


a white person

cant you see that that in itself is racist? Or are you too mentally deficient?

you dont honestly believe that every white on the planet is racist do you? And that no other colour of person can be racist?

[badumdumtscht]

ISA you used to be fun but now you're a flop.

[Flyingaround]

(Original post by im so academic)
What if he just thought certain things about other races but you wouldn't know otherwise?

If you had views that a different race did something different, that's not racist...it's when you start to hate another race, or try to make them feel bad...that's when it's racist.