[I am Ace]

So I've just finished shining my shoes for work on Monday - beats staring at my facebook home page waiting to read a status about how excited people are for Jersey Shore, right?

And as I listened to a Frank Sinatra playlist on youtube and reading an article on my favourite website, about hats and why they should still be worn.

I began to miss the days of the 1950's when men wore suits, braces and fedora hats, and women sported beautiful dresses, iconic hairstyles and tempting red lipstick that even today celebrities try to emulate.

Additionally, I miss the days when men were men, the likes of Frank Sinatra, Marlon Brando and a few decades later, Clint Eastwood. The days when men wouldn't cry on a football pitch when another player clipped their ankle, spent their days working hard instead of sitting at a desk playing angry birds and when a woman asked them to fix something or mow the garden they actually done it instead of telling her, "they'll do it after the football." Furthermore, the 1950's man acted like a gentleman, treating women with respect - asking them out on dates, pulling their chair out for them and standing up when a lady arrives at the table. On the other hand women of the 50's would not be so easily impressed by Kim Kardashian and "TOWIE" but would rather leave the house and explore the world - it is after all, her oyster.

I can guarantee, gentleman/ ladies that going for a picnic in the park with that girl you met in Starbucks, or that guy who charmed you at the bar before leaving for a party, will be far more enjoyable and memorable than sitting in tweeting about how bored you are and how you wish you had money to go out. A picnic costs relatively nothing, there are also hundreds of inexpensive day-outs that you can do either solo or as group.

But back to my point, does anybody else out there wish that we could bring back some of the traits of 1950's? Obviously certain things should remain in the past such as racism, chauvinism and homophobia - all of which, unfortunately still exist. But what about bringing back the beautiful dresses, the iconic hair, the fedora hat!

Am I the only one who believes that class beats "swag" by a long shot? That Johnnie Depp should be admired far more than Justin Bieber? (who I have no problems with whatsoever)

Today we still have stylish iconic men and women who glide onto our news papers in their polished shoes or vintage dresses - George Clooney, Tom Cruise, Diane Keaton and even sometimes Zac Efron to name a few.

So is it just me or are there more people out there who wish to bring back some of the positive traits of the 1950's? Do you want to drink a classy drink whilst spinning a girl on the dance floor after chatting her up at the bar of your nearest cocktail bar. If not, perhaps I'll see you outside a sweaty dungeon of a club, vomiting your guts out because the vodka redbulls were £1 a hit. And I'll be taking a lovely young lady or man or whatever floats your boat, to a nice bar where the music is just right so we can have a conversation and be romantic without grinding each other in inexplicably sticky-floored club where everyone's doped out their minds and slobbering over some girl who just wants to dance with her girlfriends.

So my question to you, gentleman, ladies, otherwise, is that, if you could, what era would you take traits from and why? The 60's disco? 80's rock? 90's, whatever the hell that was?

Disclaimer: I'm 18, I enjoy clubs and I think they can be fun - but in a pinch. Additionally I don't believe that we should bring back every trait of the 50's such as inequality between the sexes and other unfair characteristics that we have since evolved from. I also do enjoy a lot of the things we have today such as rock music, technology and science.

[iSoftie]

Swag iz just dat 59 fifty caps and dem sick airtops/kreps.


But then again the "classy dresses" for people around my age (16) is just any item of clothing from these designers:

Jack Wills
Abercrombie & Fitch
Hollister & Co.
(The kids who wear them always have some hawt girl around their arms and are at a party with either a fag or sodapop at hand *facepalm*).

And that isn't what I regard as classy.
So I'll take nothing from our age, and I'll go with you: I love the original class down in the 50's where I can actually order some nice cognac and listen to some great & original music (maybe a cigar to top the look lol).
Really does beat wearing fresh nikies & listening to rappers talk about how much "Don P" they shove down their throats.

^ Dat 19fiddies look was the real class! Now just old men dress like that T.T

[I have a question]

TL;DR

Class > Swag

[Podcaster]

Dude it's 2012. I'm gonna live how I want. I'm not gonna wear a hat, 'vintage suits', charm girls in Starbucks and listen to Frank Sinatra just because it's 'classy'. You sound like you would make a good hipster.

[Rennit]

(Original post by I am Ace)

Disclaimer: I'm 18, I enjoy clubs and I think they can be fun - but in a pinch. Additionally I don't believe that we should bring back every trait of the 50's such as inequality between the sexes and other unfair characteristics that we have since evolved from. I also do enjoy a lot of the things we have today such as rock music, technology and science.

Ok. You're 18, so why act like you were in the 50s and experienced it all!?

Pulling chairs out for ladies, being a gentlemen, opening doors and wearing fine suits, not planning to go out vomiting and grinding, these are all general morals, not something specifically to do with the 50s. Alot of the people I know including myself have these morals, the simple problem is there are no social places anymore for people like us. I must admit however, that I still do go on picnics with my girlfriend.

Swag is something that will pass, class isn't. "Swag" is, in a simple word and form something that I will not utter, but it begins with a Y and ends with an OLO. It is a supressant of a social counterattack by the unintelligent designed to quell the rise of intelligence being cool and something that should be strived for amongst the young. Only time will tell who will win the war between the Swags and the Classes.

[Iron Lady]

[419]

(Original post by I have a question)
TL;DR

Class > Swag

thanks

[eterna]

Swag is for chavs
Class is something us teens would probably fail at.

#allaboutthetruthLAD

[sugar-n-spice]

The problem is that the line is blurred because loads of hipsters and people who want to be like footballers or rappers (who wear suits) try the class thing.

[I am Ace]

(Original post by Rennit)
Ok. You're 18, so why act like you were in the 50s and experienced it all!?

Pulling chairs out for ladies, being a gentlemen, opening doors and wearing fine suits, not planning to go out vomiting and grinding, these are all general morals, not something specifically to do with the 50s. Alot of the people I know including myself have these morals, the simple problem is there are no social places anymore for people like us. I must admit however, that I still do go on picnics with my girlfriend.

Swag is something that will pass, class isn't. "Swag" is, in a simple word and form something that I will not utter, but it begins with a Y and ends with an OLO. It is a supressant of a social counterattack by the unintelligent designed to quell the rise of intelligence being cool and something that should be strived for amongst the young. Only time will tell who will win the war between the Swags and the Classes.

Perhaps you live in a different world than I, because I live in one where men take women on a romantic meal down the pub for their anniversary and instead of kissing them when they get home they tell her to "make bacon."

I don't know what it was like first hand, but we all have sources do we not, sir? Our fathers, grandparents and reliable internet/ book sources. Besides, a man can dream, can he not, my friend?
There is no "war" as the swags are too unintelligent to even realise that they are not the aristocracy of life, and the classes are too busy enjoying life to care. Yet, some of them, myself included, wish that others would make the transition. But it's a free world, we're just showing you more of it, why not see it in all its glory?

[sugar-n-spice]

(Original post by I am Ace)
Perhaps you live in a different world than I, because I live in one where men take women on a romantic meal down the pub for their anniversary and instead of kissing them when they get home they tell her to "make bacon."

I don't know what it was like first hand, but we all have sources do we not, sir? Our fathers, grandparents and reliable internet/ book sources. Besides, a man can dream, can he not, my friend?
There is no "war" as the swags are too unintelligent to even realise that they are not the aristocracy of life, and the classes are too busy enjoying life to care. Yet, some of them, myself included, wish that others would make the transition. But it's a free world, we're just showing you more of it, why not see it in all its glory?

Was it a rustic country pub and did you eat in a quiet back-room?

[Dobrzynski]

You have quite a romantic and naive outlook of this period. I do agree that there should be less of the techno apathy and more honest love, cheaply and simply. It will never happen though. Regarding this "swag", as Rennit said, it is just a new phase and will pass eventually, replaced by another phase. Just accept the future as it comes and don't live sixty years ago, if you don't like those clothes, don't buy them. If you want to have a fancy dinner with a girl and pull a chair out for her, do it then - it still happens you know, just not in the local dance club.

[PurpleEyes]

(Original post by I am Ace)
So is it just me or are there more people out there who wish to bring back some of the positive traits of the 1950's? Do you want to drink a classy drink whilst spinning a girl on the dance floor after chatting her up at the bar of your nearest cocktail bar. If not, perhaps I'll see you outside a sweaty dungeon of a club, vomiting your guts out because the vodka redbulls were £1 a hit. And I'll be taking a lovely young lady or man or whatever floats your boat, to a nice bar where the music is just right so we can have a conversation and be romantic without grinding each other in inexplicably sticky-floored club where everyone's doped out their minds and slobbering over some girl who just wants to dance with her girlfriends.

I love you.

50's America = where I should be living right now. I would also like a splash of the roaring 20s

[I am Ace]

For all the guys and girls who think you're too young or your boyfriend is too young to act gentlemanly and improve his style, I shall refer you to:
a) Antonio Centeno the humble man who got my into the swing of things with his free website and you tube videos, no scams, just sharing his knowledge. http://www.youtube.com/user/realmenr...e=results_main He does offer products, but everything else is totally free.
b)http://artofmanliness.com/
I have many more suggestions if anyone is interested

[Rennit]

(Original post by I am Ace)
Perhaps you live in a different world than I, because I live in one where men take women on a romantic meal down the pub for their anniversary and instead of kissing them when they get home they tell her to "make bacon."

I know there are people that do this, and I must say, I have seen a great correlation between Morals and Intelligence. Maybe this should explain it?

There are many fashions and music genres throughout the ages, so why not pick the best of each and mix them? Not just go with one genre for all time ?

Haha, I think there seriously is. Youth culture is very bizarre at the moment, and intelligence is playing a major part of it.

My only advise is to meet more people?

[FelineCostumier]

There are people out there who embrace many of the more positive time of the 50s, myself being one of them.

I'm sort of rockabilly, which takes its fashions from 50s to early 60s, I buy and wear vintage and vintage reproduction. I also dip into the 40s. I have a large circle of friends and acquaintances who are also into it, there's a whole scene most people don't even know about.

When I go out I go to clubs where they play old school rock 'n roll and rockabilly, I jive with men who know how to lead and who dress impeccably. I go to weekenders where everyone is into it and that's full time, it's amazing being amongst hundreds of people who know how to "set" their hair, wear red lipstick and use Brylcream!

Occasionally I'll go to a 40s night where everyone swing dances (I've not learned yet) and again, everyone is dressed beautifully.

I love it, getting involved is the best decision I ever made. I have friends who have reproduction clothing companies, vintage traders, vintage hair and make-up artists, boudoir photographers, burlesque artists, pin-up models............

I'm even going on a first date with someone where we shall go to a fabulous tea shop, drink Assam from a pot and eat scones.

I also have friends who aren't into it so I don't have to isolate myself to be involved and enjoy it. I do occasionally go to regular bars and clubs but it's never quite the same.

So it's out there, you just have to know where to look

[Straight up G]

(Original post by PurpleEyes)
I love you.

50's America = where I should be living right now. I would also like a splash of the roaring 20s

Great, watch the world come back from ****ing itself up in the 50s, and watch it **** itself up again in the 20s.

OP is doing his best Captain Obvious rendition, anyone with half a brain agrees with some of his points and anyone with a full brain can tell he's just a wannabe hipster who's ranting at nothing in particular/

[Formerly Helpful_C]

I don't see why you would want to be the same as everyone else. As it is, you wear those clothes and enjoy those activities purely because you do, not because it's the norm. Would you rather be a 1-of-a-kind or 10-a-penny?

To mention Starbucks is quite laughable, though, when you consider the demographic - white, middle-class, pretentious and pseudo-liberal. These people don't have the morals you seek. They may replicate them, but they don't possess them.

Plus, who wants to go backwards? The whole point is that we, as a species, move forward. Yes, trends come and go. That's life.