What is China ACTUALLY like - is it really dangerous/evil?

ok so I'm sure most people have heard the "if chinese athletes don't win they are slaughtered/sent to labour camps/beaten up/exiled/hated by the nation" etc. there are so many people saying this. then also about how evil the government is and that they aren't free and they are really opressive and kill and torture their citizens.

i know there is censorship in China and the government is quite controlling, but to what degree? how much of this anti-chinese government feeling has been stirred up as propaganda by press/USA/other governments?

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Reply 1

ThatPerson

I'm not sure about being sent to labour camps; that more like North Korea. In the World Cup 2010, after their 7-0 defeat apparently their team coach was sent to do forced labour.

Reply 2

Lunch_Box

Western media is so misleading.

Reply 3

acedlol

http://www.youtube.com/user/serpentza

An ex-pat explaining all aspects of China from medicine, to privacy etc. Really good interesting long pleasant videos :3

Censorship one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgDBZtgh4qY&feature=plcp

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Reply 4

taeyang

the people there LOVE iphones

Reply 5

drummer

Original post by Bellissima

They say it because they win many events so there is woeful excuse and ignorance that they go through these training regimes. truth is they are scouted as young talent from boarding schools etc and their parents agree to being letting them train in music/sports whatever it is. They undergo extreme training which I repeat not "abuse' and there is plenty of time for socialising with their friends and family. With two cousins that excel at basketball and teach sports at China's few Universities in Guangdong so they know how the sporting system works.

As for politics and government we have a TSR user native from China that explains the second bit in bold very well. I'll try and find that thread for you.

Found it, three quarters of the way down:

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2071882&page=11&highlight=USA%21&page=11

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Not sure if serious.

Original post by spacepirate-James

i'm so sorry for asking a question about something i don't really know about in order to help me know a bit more about it, how stupid of me!

Reply 8

Bellissima

Original post by drummer

thank you

Reply 9

Casshern1456

Why don't you go to China and look for yourself

Reply 10

whyumadtho

Original post by taeyang

the people there LOVE iphones

The overwhelming majority of international Chinese students at my university have iPhones—it's really strange. :erm:

Reply 11

Bellissima

Original post by Casshern1456

Why don't you go to China and look for yourself

one day, when i have the money and time.

Reply 12

drummer

You see Bellissima has a great attitude towards things she likes to learn better. This beats ignorance by far and it's ****ing refreshing to see...

Reply 13

The Marshall

Original post by whyumadtho

The overwhelming majority of international Chinese students at my university have iPhones—it's really strange. :erm:

But not all Chinese students can have that, can they? How come you're generalizing it now? :mad:

Reply 14

whyumadtho

Original post by The Marshall

But not all Chinese students can have that, can they? How come you're generalizing it now? :mad:

"The overwhelming majority of international Chinese students at my university" ≠ "all Chinese students"

Learn to read properly. :h:

Edit: I'm not going to respond to your reply to this because it is wildly off-topic and you clearly have an abysmal grasp of the English language.

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Reply 15

The Marshall

Original post by whyumadtho

"The overwhelming majority of international Chinese students at my university" ≠ "all Chinese students"

Learn to read properly. :h:

No, but you can certainly say that not all Indians strive for education, can't you? :angry:

No, you can certainly say that all Indians ''work for a pittance'' can't you? You can say racist comments like this but you can't critisise the Chinese can you? So how can you claim that all your Chinese students have iphones? You're generalizing it through and through you utter fool.

Reply 16

The Marshall

Original post by whyumadtho

"The overwhelming majority of international Chinese students at my university" ≠ "all Chinese students"

Learn to read properly. :h:

Edit: I'm not going to respond to your reply to this because it is wildly off-topic and you clearly have an abysmal grasp of the English language.

Who cares? Having to learn English is quite enough. But then again, you can't even respond can you? You're weak and you know it. Coward, you wouldn't be able to answer anything I say.

Reply 17

AWittierName

Original post by The Marshall

No, but you can certainly say that not all Indians strive for education, can't you? :angry:

Original post by The Marshall

Who cares? Having to learn English is quite enough. But then again, you can't even respond can you? You're weak and you know it. Coward, you wouldn't be able to answer anything I say.

Let it go dude stop posting. You lost the argument.

Reply 18

Mcnubn

Its not an evil sports regime -.- but gold medals are highly valued whereas others are mostly ignored by the media in Beijing. Theres a video going around with one of the chinese weightliftes in an emotional wreck after winning silver, simply because that gold medal would not only mean big success for himself and those around him, but also opens the door to sponsorship deals and advertising.

and about the iphone thing, most chinese students that are studying in the UK will come from fairly well off families (not saying rich, but those with quite a bit of disposable income compared to most) so an iphone is a small drop in the ocean really, since the tuition fee in UK (+as well as living costs) is about 5x that of China. Also if the UK university isn't a particularly good one then its possible the students came through one of the many partnership courses here, which involve the students paying a much higher fee than normal so that they can go to a better university (with 1 year in UK), which is quite popular when the parents have the cash and the kid didn't go very well in the gaokao

Reply 19

Carter78

Original post by whyumadtho

"The overwhelming majority of international Chinese students at my university" ≠ "all Chinese students"

Learn to read properly. :h:

Edit: I'm not going to respond to your reply to this because it is wildly off-topic and you clearly have an abysmal grasp of the English language.

Don't worry about this guy, he just got another thread closed down because of his inarticulate and "wild" posts: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2069221&page=9 (see last post)

To the topic of whether China is dangerous/evil:

I can't see why we don't take a similar action against China that the Western world (eventually) took against the Apartheid regime in South Africa. We should boycott all sporting events in China for instance. I found it laughable that the F1 Teams considered boycotting the Grand Prix in Bahrain but were not moved to take any similar action for the Chinese Grand Prix considering China's long history of human rights abuses against the Tibetans and ordinary Chinese citizens.

Some say sport and politics shouldn't mix, but then someone should've told the Chinese back in 2008 during the Beijing Olympics! :rolleyes:

If the Chinese want to use Sport as a platform to showcase their greatness, then the West should equally be allowed to use Sport as a platform to shine a light on the abhorrent practices of the Chinese government.