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“Chinese Child Abuse” have you ever thought the reason behind it?Well, many of you are now saying 'how great GB has achieved compared to its population', thats indeed, but have you ever thought of another aspect, that how much China has achieved when you noticed that it is still such a POOR nation? Chinese GDP per capital is near the figure of india, far less than UK,.Having formed the statistics, lets find the reasons behind it.
There is certainly mass amout of money invested in sports, but the rich side is the government, many athletes are from poor family and rural areas, you know why? the families in cities have good education oppturnities, nomally they dont want to take the risk of giving up their adadamic to become an athelte(except an athletic family). but the people in the country want to change their status, they want to go to the cities, and if their kids been chosen, it means they have chance to entre big cities. The kids, on the other hand, are therefore under great pressure, they have family to feed in the future, so they work more hard then their few metropolitan counterparts, you may criticize for the 'Child Abuse', but what will you think when you know they won't be able to fed themselves if they don't 'being abused' or 'abuse themselves'?
Lets turn to another aspect, you know china dont even win a medal untill 1984? this means china is a fast growing country, but there is problems, as the wealth goes up, people's education and thoughts didn't catch up, many people still have no idea about what the hell is 'human rights', so the parent dont ever think their children are 'abused'! they know only hard-working and earning money is good. that's sad, but its whos fault?
Having formed these reasons, we can find why Chinese athletes are crying for a sliver, in the money term we all know whats the difference between a gold and a sliver, and Chinese people love "faces", which means reputaion, thats a bad part.
So you know the difference between them? unlike westerners take olympics more as a hobby, some Chinese take it as the only way to make a living. So cant we just change an angle, seeing them as 'not-very-qualified people managed to success through hard-working' rather than some kinda abuse! no matter what, don't you think a person with relatively bad condition succeeded need to be respected?
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Re: “Chinese Child Abuse” have you ever thought the reason behind it?logical post
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Re: “Chinese Child Abuse” have you ever thought the reason behind it?i cant really understand what you're saying, but nonetheless under no circumstances is child abuse ok. theres more to life than winning an olympics gold medal. enjoying your childhood is more important.
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Re: “Chinese Child Abuse” have you ever thought the reason behind it?According to the media and people who have no connections in China and such it's abuse because they want to have a reason to blame China for Gold.(Original post by Go.Infi)
Well, many of you are now saying 'how great GB has achieved compared to its population', thats indeed, but have you ever thought of another aspect, that how much China has achieved when you noticed that it is still such a POOR nation? Chinese GDP per capital is near the figure of india, far less than UK,.Having formed the statistics, lets find the reasons behind it.
There is certainly mass amout of money invested in sports, but the rich side is the government, many athletes are from poor family and rural areas, you know why? the families in cities have good education oppturnities, nomally they dont want to take the risk of giving up their adadamic to become an athelte(except an athletic family). but the people in the country want to change their status, they want to go to the cities, and if their kids been chosen, it means they have chance to entre big cities. The kids, on the other hand, are therefore under great pressure, they have family to feed in the future, so they work more hard then their few metropolitan counterparts, you may criticize for the 'Child Abuse', but what will you think when you know they won't be able to fed themselves if they don't 'being abused' or 'abuse themselves'?
Lets turn to another aspect, you know china dont even win a medal untill 1984? this means china is a fast growing country, but there is problems, as the wealth goes up, people's education and thoughts didn't catch up, many people still have no idea about what the hell is 'human rights', so the parent dont ever think their children are 'abused'! they know only hard-working and earning money is good. that's sad, but its whos fault?
Having formed these reasons, we can find why Chinese athletes are crying for a sliver, in the money term we all know whats the difference between a gold and a sliver, and Chinese people love "faces", which means reputaion, thats a bad part.
So you know the difference between them? unlike westerners take olympics more as a hobby, some Chinese take it as the only way to make a living. So cant we just change an angle, seeing them as 'not-very-qualified people managed to success through hard-working' rather than some kinda abuse! no matter what, don't you think a person with relatively bad condition succeeded need to be respected?
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Re: “Chinese Child Abuse” have you ever thought the reason behind it?Pretty much this...(Original post by drummer)
According to the media and people who have no connections in China and such it's abuse because they want to have a reason to blame China for Gold. -
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Re: “Chinese Child Abuse” have you ever thought the reason behind it?There was at least one case where a Chinese athlete was not told her grandparent had died or that one of her parents had cancer because it could impact her performance. She was kept in a training camp with minimal contact with the outside world and what she received was censored to remove anything that could impact her performance. Even when training for gold, you cannot take away someone's life like that.(Original post by drummer)
According to the media and people who have no connections in China and such it's abuse because they want to have a reason to blame China for Gold. -
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Re: “Chinese Child Abuse” have you ever thought the reason behind it?You have trouble understanding then...(Original post by uwotm8?)
i cant really understand what you're saying, but nonetheless under no circumstances is child abuse ok. theres more to life than winning an olympics gold medal. enjoying your childhood is more important. -
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Re: “Chinese Child Abuse” have you ever thought the reason behind it?Her parents chose not to tell her, instead of government policy.(Original post by Nugget McChicken)
There was at least one case where a Chinese athlete was not told her grandparent had died or that one of her parents had cancer because it could impact her performance. She was kept in a training camp with minimal contact with the outside world and what she received was censored to remove anything that could impact her performance. Even when training for gold, you cannot take away someone's life like that. -
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Re: “Chinese Child Abuse” have you ever thought the reason behind it?Very good points in my opinion. Seriously though, who wouldn't struggle to get out of poverty? And I saw in a BBC documentary that in China, even when you have good qualifications, you end up working in factories that pay so little.(Original post by Go.Infi)
Well, many of you are now saying 'how great GB has achieved compared to its population', thats indeed, but have you ever thought of another aspect, that how much China has achieved when you noticed that it is still such a POOR nation? Chinese GDP per capital is near the figure of india, far less than UK,.Having formed the statistics, lets find the reasons behind it.
There is certainly mass amout of money invested in sports, but the rich side is the government, many athletes are from poor family and rural areas, you know why? the families in cities have good education oppturnities, nomally they dont want to take the risk of giving up their adadamic to become an athelte(except an athletic family). but the people in the country want to change their status, they want to go to the cities, and if their kids been chosen, it means they have chance to entre big cities. The kids, on the other hand, are therefore under great pressure, they have family to feed in the future, so they work more hard then their few metropolitan counterparts, you may criticize for the 'Child Abuse', but what will you think when you know they won't be able to fed themselves if they don't 'being abused' or 'abuse themselves'?
Lets turn to another aspect, you know china dont even win a medal untill 1984? this means china is a fast growing country, but there is problems, as the wealth goes up, people's education and thoughts didn't catch up, many people still have no idea about what the hell is 'human rights', so the parent dont ever think their children are 'abused'! they know only hard-working and earning money is good. that's sad, but its whos fault?
Having formed these reasons, we can find why Chinese athletes are crying for a sliver, in the money term we all know whats the difference between a gold and a sliver, and Chinese people love "faces", which means reputaion, thats a bad part.
So you know the difference between them? unlike westerners take olympics more as a hobby, some Chinese take it as the only way to make a living. So cant we just change an angle, seeing them as 'not-very-qualified people managed to success through hard-working' rather than some kinda abuse! no matter what, don't you think a person with relatively bad condition succeeded need to be respected?
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An I think what has been said below is true. Western media will always try to find something in order to make another country who is doing good look bad. For example, this week a French tabloid said that the wheels that Britain's cyclist use are unfair (obviously there jealous) and this was front page (I think it's their version of Daily Mail). -
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Re: “Chinese Child Abuse” have you ever thought the reason behind it?Good point OP, I think most people here don't understand what their attitude to the olympics is like, and the people who are shocked and disheartened by their superiority in the games try reassure themselves that it is due to unfair, abusive behaviour by the government - which is true, but this isn't the whole picture of what's going on in china.
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Re: “Chinese Child Abuse” have you ever thought the reason behind it?BLAH blah blah OP, we have the greatest medals to population ratio therefore that means we're no.1 in the world, thats the most scientific way to measure olympic success and everybody knows it. China with their 2 billion people count should be ranked far lower.
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Re: “Chinese Child Abuse” have you ever thought the reason behind it?But Great Britain are 3rd though(Original post by Jack93o)
BLAH blah blah OP, we have the greatest medals to population ratio therefore that means we're no.1 in the world, thats the most scientific way to measure olympic success and everybody knows it. China with their 2 billion people count should be ranked far lower. -
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Re: “Chinese Child Abuse” have you ever thought the reason behind it?(Original post by Nugget McChicken)
There was at least one case where a Chinese athlete was not told her grandparent had died or that one of her parents had cancer because it could impact her performance. She was kept in a training camp with minimal contact with the outside world and what she received was censored to remove anything that could impact her performance. Even when training for gold, you cannot take away someone's life like that.
But that's not rare in China! Do you know the Chinese college entrance examination? It is one of the most cruel exam in the world(because a large population competing for limited colleges) Months ago it is reported that a student was not told that her mother was dead because it could influent her exam performance, and in another case, a mother was sending her daugther to the exam(on foot),then a car accident happened, the mother protected the daughter, but she was seriouly injuried. The daugther, however, was encouraged to go to the exam leaving her mother alone!
The fact is that most chinese are living hard, with huge competitions and social pressure,they have no time and money and energy to deal with ‘abuse' problems.
Sometimes it is very lucky living in a western developed country, living as a Chinses in no fun,dispite the glory. -
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Re: “Chinese Child Abuse” have you ever thought the reason behind it?Everyone knows that china are no.1 by default of their huge populaton count and investment in sport, and the U.S are no.2 from vulturing their medals off swimming as well as insane investment in sport. They're effectively cheating, no other country can ever dream of having such advantageous resources.(Original post by drummer)
But Great Britain are 3rd though
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Re: “Chinese Child Abuse” have you ever thought the reason behind it?(Original post by Jack93o)
BLAH blah blah OP, we have the greatest medals to population ratio therefore that means we're no.1 in the world, thats the most scientific way to measure olympic success and everybody knows it. China with their 2 billion people count should be ranked far lower.
I think when measuring the medals to population ratio, Australia will be a very strong sporting nation, and many people admit it. New zealand, I dont know how they perform in the past, but it seems Australia is more famous in this term.
But GB is great, either,really.
(I wonder why your team is called GB instead of UK,can anyone tell me?
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Re: “Chinese Child Abuse” have you ever thought the reason behind it?Cheating...(Original post by Jack93o)
Everyone knows that china are no.1 by default of their huge populaton count and investment in sport, and the U.S are no.2 from vulturing their medals off swimming as well as insane investment in sport. They're effectively cheating, no other country can ever dream of having such advantageous resources.
The real no.1 is team GB because we have a far smaller population count.
don't know about that one. But in the official London 2012 tables GB are 3rd though.
Oh by the way with the population count, you still only have a selected group of athletes competing in the Olympics. This year GB have the most number of athletes then USA then China. If you're talking medal to population ratio then surely GB have the edge :s otherwise more events would be needed in the course of over a month for USA and China to have the same result. Lol, works both ways -
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Re: “Chinese Child Abuse” have you ever thought the reason behind it?It came from the fact that UK is officially designated as Great Britain in the IOC (and that comes from the National Olympic Committee of the UK calling themselves the NOC of GB). Team UK is not totally inclusive either as it excludes the Crown Dependecies (e.g. the channel islands) which also send athletes to compete under Team GB.Last edited by ukdragon37; 07-08-2012 at 14:06.
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don't know about that one. But in the official London 2012 tables GB are 3rd though.
