[Observatory]

Because in some countries a lot of people hate Jews, and most/all of those countries have a say in the IOC. In fact one of them has a government that includes many of the same people organised the massacre.

[Hopple]

(Original post by UniOfLife)
It wasn't reported (and it would have been) so I'm pretty sure no one did. And I'm equally sure the IOC would have gone mental had anyone tried.

I think the situation is that the IOC can refuse to officially endorse stuff, and are under political pressure to do so, but they can't stop the host city from doing what it wants. Whether they would have stopped the Isreali team from wearing black armbands I guess we won't know for sure, though we can assume they'd try and press them not to behind the scenes - I think it unlikely that the IOC throw Israel out though, but it would have to be the whole team else the IOC could pick on individual athletes.

[UniOfLife]

(Original post by Hopple)
I think the situation is that the IOC can refuse to officially endorse stuff, and are under political pressure to do so, but they can't stop the host city from doing what it wants. Whether they would have stopped the Isreali team from wearing black armbands I guess we won't know for sure, though we can assume they'd try and press them not to behind the scenes - I think it unlikely that the IOC throw Israel out though, but it would have to be the whole team else the IOC could pick on individual athletes.

Yeah, though they'd probably make a giant fuss about how Israel was "politicising" the Olympics to save face and placate certain countries for whom the murder of Israeli athletes isn't a deplorable act.

[Iamgoingmad]

Maybe its because the IOC understand that how can Israel be hypocritical in remembering people who got killed in Munich by Palestinians
when Israel kill many Palestinians everyday

[Spaz Man]

Becuase then you would have to pay tributes to many other bigger atrocities that have also happened.

[Iamgoingmad]

no one deserves to die, but I doubt it has anything with the fact some countries hate jews
after all the holocaust has so much coverage and theres like a new movie every year about it
no one complains or stops it
all death is sad
on Nov 11 at 11am we have a min silence for all unnatural death in the world caused by war


before anyone calls me anti-semite, my gf is jewish

[Banburyhammer]

(Original post by Rhadamanthus)
Yes, but it was not an attack on the Olympics. If Paris had been awarded it we still would have been bombed the next day. Perhaps recognising the uniqueness of the two attacks, a joint memorial service would have been in order.

To me the argument that the murder occured at the Olympics is irrelevant - infact if anything its suggests that an attack on olympians is worse tha an attack on mere sportspeople, or the wider public. Thats not what the Olympics stand for.

The opening ceremony is there for the host nation to present itself to the world, and for me, terrible as the Munich attack was, the IOC could not force the organising commitee to insert a period of rememberence, as the IOC has nothing to do with the ceremony.

Besides, if the murder of Israeli atheles by terrorists is worth of remberence 40 years hence, then the attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team in Pakistan, and the Togo football team in Angola is even more worthy of remeberence. All involved sportspersons. In all people were murdered. But Munich was 40 years ago. The last 2 occured after the Beijing Olympics.

And the fact that the Israeli atheletes were killed during an Olympics, should not give that primacy over the other two. To me there is no problem - I dont remember any reference to 7/7 during the ceremony anyway.

[UniOfLife]

(Original post by Banburyhammer)
To me the argument that the murder occured at the Olympics is irrelevant - infact if anything its suggests that an attack on olympians is worse tha an attack on mere sportspeople, or the wider public. Thats not what the Olympics stand for.

The opening ceremony is there for the host nation to present itself to the world, and for me, terrible as the Munich attack was, the IOC could not force the organising commitee to insert a period of rememberence, as the IOC has nothing to do with the ceremony.

Besides, if the murder of Israeli atheles by terrorists is worth of remberence 40 years hence, then the attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team in Pakistan, and the Togo football team in Angola is even more worthy of remeberence. All involved sportspersons. In all people were murdered. But Munich was 40 years ago. The last 2 occured after the Beijing Olympics.

And the fact that the Israeli atheletes were killed during an Olympics, should not give that primacy over the other two. To me there is no problem - I dont remember any reference to 7/7 during the ceremony anyway.

The complaints are not that the IOC failed to force a tribute at the opening ceremony but that they actively blocked any attempt to have one.

As for the rest, surely you're not serious that an attack on the Togo football team is more relevant to the Olympics than an attack on Olympic athletes during the Olympics? That's plain bizarre...

[Iamgoingmad]

Munich "massacre" memorial should not be apart of the olympics

[Banburyhammer]

(Original post by UniOfLife)
The complaints are not that the IOC failed to force a tribute at the opening ceremony but that they actively blocked any attempt to have one.

As for the rest, surely you're not serious that an attack on the Togo football team is more relevant to the Olympics than an attack on Olympic athletes during the Olympics? That's plain bizarre...

Why not? The Olympics is a celebration of all sport, and the sporting endeavour to go faster, higher and stronger. Its not simply a self-congatulary celebrabration of the Olympics alone. Sure, they wernt Olympians, but they were still sportspeople, taking part in a sporting event.

Thats to suggest that if the Israeli athletes were murdered during their national trials, or before the games were officially opened, their deaths would have been a lesser atrocity in the eyes of the IOC? Because they wouldnt have technically been Olympians in that case.

Of course not, because that would be both absurd and elitist to suggest the murder of an Olympian during a games is worse than that of a 'lesser sportsperson' during a 'lesser sporting event'.

[y gorau]

The IOC don't believe Politics and Sport mix. They don't have a great history of doing the right thing, eg Berlin 1936

[Iamgoingmad]

sports and politic dont mix

[UniOfLife]

(Original post by Iamgoingmad)
sports and politic dont mix

1) They do.

2) It oughtn't to be controversial to remember the kidnapping and murder of innocent athletes.

[Iamgoingmad]

(Original post by UniOfLife)
1) They do.

2) It oughtn't to be controversial to remember the kidnapping and murder of innocent athletes.

They dont mix not now not ever
you dont see kids playing football and talking about wether they think david cameron is a prick or if Nick clegg has good policies


its sad they died
Im glad the IOC didnt do a memorial, Israel is always looking for a sob story so the international community looks away and feels sorry for them while they slaughter Palestinians on their own homeland

[UniOfLife]

(Original post by Iamgoingmad)
They dont mix not now not ever
you dont see kids playing football and talking about wether they think david cameron is a prick or if Nick clegg has good policies

its sad they died
Im glad the IOC didnt do a memorial, Israel is always looking for a sob story so the international community looks away and feels sorry for them while they slaughter Palestinians on their own homeland

Sport and politics don't mix huh? That would explain why Apartheid South Africa was banned from the Olympics between 1964 and 1992. Oh wait...you're wrong.

I think you're last bit is a sorry indictment of many so-called pro-Palestinians. They cannot be pro-Palestinian without simultaneously being against Israel in its entirety.

Remember Israeli athletes murdered by Palestinian terrorists? No way. That might imply that both peoples have suffered because of the on-going Arab-Israeli conflict. Unacceptable!

[Iamgoingmad]

yes now we could use the olympics to stop the modern day zionist nazi israelis from their apartheid

theres a difference between using something to gain a cause rather than mixing them
for example hollywood creates countless holocuast movies every year so people feel sorry for this dying israeli cause this is an example of using something to gain a cause
but if you mixxed the sad genocide (all murder is bad) with what modern day jewish state is up to then your whole cause falls apart
we cant have a olympic memorial everytime a israeli sportsmen has a peanut allergy reaction
and the whole palestinians terrorists thing, I dont really care, they're people are being opressed, same way the nazis did to yous, so you has resistance movements
so therefore no I believe the munch massacre should have not had a memorial during the olympics

[Iamgoingmad]

(Original post by UniOfLife)
Sport and politics don't mix huh? That would explain why Apartheid South Africa was banned from the Olympics between 1964 and 1992. Oh wait...you're wrong.

I think you're last bit is a sorry indictment of many so-called pro-Palestinians. They cannot be pro-Palestinian without simultaneously being against Israel in its entirety.

Remember Israeli athletes murdered by Palestinian terrorists? No way. That might imply that both peoples have suffered because of the on-going Arab-Israeli conflict. Unacceptable!

Yes also South Afrrica is ramping up against Israel....shame
nope munich memorial is a no