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  1. ByronicHero's Avatar
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    Re: Speaker Election II: Manifestos
    (Original post by Mazzini)
    Oi.



    Well then you, sir, need to get a big dictionary and read it. :holmes:
    Haha, this.

    (Original post by Birchington)
    Toronto can still count on my vote, as he has already answered all my questions in round one.
    When you send me your first PS reviews I am going to destroy them with the venom of a thousand scorpions.

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    Re: Speaker Election II: Manifestos
    Paddy can I be like your groupie or something? <3
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    Paddy can I be like your groupie or something? <3
    :sexface:
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    Re: Speaker Election II: Manifestos
    To all candidates, what do you think sets you apart from the other candidates? Compared to Nick's, how different do you imagine your Speakership style would be?
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    Re: Speaker Election II: Manifestos
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    Is that a yes?!?!
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    Re: Speaker Election II: Manifestos
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    To all candidates, what do you think sets you apart from the other candidates? Compared to Nick's, how different do you imagine your Speakership style would be?
    This was my response to a very similar question (in case you didn't read it) a few pages back:

    I have more experience than any of them and feel that ultimately Rory has too little at the moment (though I like him and see no reason why he wouldn't make a great speaker in the future), JPKC obviously isn't mounting a serious effort and pretty much endorses me anyway but you should vote for me because he is a dog and the slightest thing would distract him from his duties and I think toronto would be a decent speaker but honestly don't think he has anything to offer that I can't at least match other than an ability to understand dead languages. Honestly it depends on exactly what somebody wants from a speaker. If they want somebody who is going to be able to communicate their desires as persuasively as possible to those who have the power to make them happen then they should vote for me. If they want somebody who cares about the future of the house and who has invested a lot of time and energy into it they should vote for me. If they want somebody who understands exactly how the house works and will be able to match the quality of your delivery (I hope) then they should vote for me. If they want somebody who is phlegmatic and cold in their execution of the role then they should not vote for me. If they want somebody who considers unthinking integration for integration's sake between us and the MUN a positive thing they should not vote for me. If they want somebody who, if the house decides this integration is something it wants, will be well placed to make it happen then due to my time as DSG and my relationship with thunder_chunky they should vote for me. And so it could continue.

    I could go through each candidate's manifesto and comment on what they have said with the aim of denigrating them but I won't. People know what they want and they (at least think) they know how well each candidate will match those expectations. Many people will vote simply for who they like and that isn't a bad thing as being likable is a positive attribute, some people will vote politically which is incredibly stupid but their prerogative but most people are going to vote based on the idea of each candidate they have built up over the entirety of their time here (and possibly across the site). People who are voting know me well enough to know what they would be getting and if they decide that isn't what they want then I can respect that but people shouldn't assume that a sense of humour precludes somebody from exercising sound and effective judgment or that my political views will render me unpalatably partisan because these conclusions are nonsense.

    Is this the kind of answer you were looking for? If not I can provide a new one

    With regards to style: I liked Nick's style so I think for the most part my style would be reasonably similar. I think the tone of my updates would be slightly more familiar because that is just who I am and that I would be more visible around the house chatting in the bar etc just because I'm sad and post a lot but for the most part if it isn't broken....
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    Re: Speaker Election II: Manifestos
    (Original post by MacDaddi)
    Is that a yes?!?!
    If you are of age
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    Re: Speaker Election II: Manifestos
    Paddy has written a thousand words to sum up his candidacy, I think I'll go with a picture.

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    Paddy has written a thousand words to sum up his candidacy, I think I'll go with a picture.

    :lol:
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    Paddy for supreme overlord of the MHoC!
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    Paddy has written a thousand words to sum up his candidacy, I think I'll go with a picture.

    I wonder where I recognise that cat from... :rolleyes:
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    Bit hard for Ysolt to run when they've been perma-banned isn't it?
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    Re: Speaker Election II: Manifestos
    Firstly, good luck to all other candidates.

    Here goes with all the questions asked. It's a long one, I'm sorry!

    (Original post by toronto353)
    A few questions for you.

    1) Do you feel that your lack of experience is a weakness? While you have experience in various roles and have attained many roles, you haven't actually held any of them for that long. Do you think that this holds you back?

    2) You mention links with the MUN. How would you achieve this given that the links are the responsibility of the Foreign Secretary?
    1) I don't believe so, of course, experience is a key part of the MHoC as it allows you to develop and form more ideas & opinions on different matters. I do have lots of experience in various roles, but I think I've held the roles long enough for me to settle into them and to do well in them. I don't believe it holds me back, I think being in different roles does the complete opposite.

    (Original post by barnetlad)
    I can be a lazy person at times when it comes to research and so ask each of the candidates- which posts will you relinquish if elected speaker?
    i will give up all my current roles in the MHoC. I'd still like to maintain my MUN role.

    (Original post by Jarred)
    JPKC, Paddy, Rory:
    Being the Speaker is a very important role which requires a lot of dedication - but y'all didn't take part in the first election. How can we be sure of your dedication and commitment to the role if you've only thrown your hats in now?
    Firstly, I believed that I wouldn't stand a chance amongst other candidates, but then, once the two manifestos were posted I thought that we wasn't enough competition between the candidates so I voted RON and decided to write a manifesto. There's no harm in trying! I will be very dedicated to a Speaker role. I'm constantly checking the forum when I'm at home and I would take on an administration system to make sure all bills, motions and petitions were submitted at the right time. I will be committed and will try not to take constant holiday breaks from the forum as this leaves MPs and party supporters unsure about who the Speaker is and where to submit their legislation and such like too.

    (Original post by Metrobeans)
    To all candidates:

    What improvements do you think need to be made to the HoC?

    What would you do differently?

    Why should members vote for you over the other three?
    In terms of improvements, I would see to install a chatbox within our forum with the assistance of the TSR Admins to create more of a lively feel about the house with scheduled meetings, summits and general chatter able to take place 24/7. I would also make sure that we get new members into the forum with a political interest by advertising and contacting TSR members actively taking part in other discussion forums to see if they'd like to join the MHoC. I will seek to establish further links with the MUN, holding summits on foreign matters and continuing the successful state visits from MUN reps. I will also seek to change parts of the Constitution by putting a committee together to get their ideas and let them write new bits of the Constitution with my involvement.

    In terms of doing things differently, I think I'd keep most of the things the same eg. the HoC Update PMs being in the evening, the same system of tackling the administration side of the role. I think I'd maybe intervene in discussions more than you did Nick and would intervene sooner when situations on topic threads are getting out of hand.

    Members should vote Rory instead of the other members because I can be politically neutral, will make sure things happen, will take a serious stance on serious matters and will do the opposite (taking a funny, humour like stance of things which are meant to be funny) and will dedicate myself to the life and future of the Model HoC by continuing to develop the forum and make sure things run smoothly to ensure success.

    (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
    First of all best of luck to the three of you newbies to the contest.

    Opening starter for ten. If you (as I'm sure that you all do) wish to become speaker then why did you not stand in the original election along with toronto?
    See my reply to Jarred.

    (Original post by Mazzini)
    Do you not think that you are a little new to the House to be Speaker right now? I mean, you only joined TSR in April.

    Do you think your grammar will be up to scratch? Can I police it for you?
    On point 1, I think I am relatively new, but I learn things quickly. I'm surprised how soon I've settled into life here in the House and I think debating has always been a struggle for me, but if I took up the Speaker role, I would have to remain neutral which is where I'd much rather prefer to be at.

    I think it will! You can police this post and then make a judgement for yourself! (I love Miranda by the way!) :cool:

    (Original post by JPKC)
    Can my fellow candidates give the House a taster of what a House Update would look like from them?
    I'll get back to you on that one...

    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Question to all aside from Toronto, given that you could not be bothered to submit Manifesto's last time and preceded to RON just because IG got banned and tehFrance quit, why should any of us vote for you.
    See reply to Jarred (who made the exact same point as you!)

    (Original post by lambert1)
    I have a good question how long do you dedicate to MHoC each day?
    If I'm not that busy and at home for the day, probably about 2 - 3 hours in total on and off throughout the day.

    If I'm studying, I'll log on in the evening for about an hour - an hour and a half. I'll dedicate more of my time to the forum if I'm elected Speaker to make sure everything is running smoothly.

    (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
    To all candidates.

    If you believed that you could justify it. Would you act consciously outside of the MHoC Constitution?
    No - I will stick the constitution and will make the relevant changes with a Committee if I deem changes need to be made once I'm elected.

    (Original post by TheCrackInTime)
    To all candidates, what do you think sets you apart from the other candidates? Compared to Nick's, how different do you imagine your Speakership style would be?
    For first part, see my reply to Nick.

    Second part, I think my speaker style would be pretty similar, I would say enough to justify arguments, I wouldn't ramble. I will continue to use good grammar, spelling and punctuation to make things an 'easy read'.

    I will attempt to police discussions that are getting out of hand and will make sure everyone in the House feels included and is respected for who they are. Discrimination is an absolute no no.

    (Original post by Morgsie)
    QFA
    Do I get your vote?
    Last edited by RoryS; 10-08-2012 at 12:47.
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    (Original post by RoryS)
    Firstly, good luck to all other candidates.

    Here goes with all the questions asked. It's a long one, I'm sorry!



    1) I don't believe so, of course, experience is a key part of the MHoC as it allows you to develop and form more ideas & opinions on different matters. I do have lots of experience in various roles, but I think I've held the roles long enough for me to settle into them and to do well in them. I don't believe it holds me back, I think being in different roles does the complete opposite.



    I will give up my leadership role in Labour but will still take an active part in their sub-forum by giving advice and opinions. I will probably remind SSoS for Transport. I will maintain my role in the MUN also.



    Firstly, I believed that I wouldn't stand a chance amongst other candidates, but then, once the two manifestos were posted I thought that we wasn't enough competition between the candidates so I voted RON and decided to write a manifesto. There's no harm in trying! I will be very dedicated to a Speaker role. I'm constantly checking the forum when I'm at home and I would take on an administration system to make sure all bills, motions and petitions were submitted at the right time. I will be committed and will try not to take constant holiday breaks from the forum as this leaves MPs and party supporters unsure about who the Speaker is and where to submit their legislation and such like too.



    In terms of improvements, I would see to install a chatbox within our forum with the assistance of the TSR Admins to create more of a lively feel about the house with scheduled meetings, summits and general chatter able to take place 24/7. I would also make sure that we get new members into the forum with a political interest by advertising and contacting TSR members actively taking part in other discussion forums to see if they'd like to join the MHoC. I will seek to establish further links with the MUN, holding summits on foreign matters and continuing the successful state visits from MUN reps. I will also seek to change parts of the Constitution by putting a committee together to get their ideas and let them write new bits of the Constitution with my involvement.

    In terms of doing things differently, I think I'd keep most of the things the same eg. the HoC Update PMs being in the evening, the same system of tackling the administration side of the role. I think I'd maybe intervene in discussions more than you did Nick and would intervene sooner when situations on topic threads are getting out of hand.

    Members should vote Rory instead of the other members because I can be politically neutral, will make sure things happen, will take a serious stance on serious matters and will do the opposite (taking a funny, humour like stance of things which are meant to be funny) and will dedicate myself to the life and future of the Model HoC by continuing to develop the forum and make sure things run smoothly to ensure success.



    See my reply to Jarred.



    On point 1, I think I am relatively new, but I learn things quickly. I'm surprised how soon I've settled into life here in the House and I think debating has always been a struggle for me, but if I took up the Speaker role, I would have to remain neutral which is where I'd much rather prefer to be at.

    I think it will! You can police this post and then make a judgement for yourself! (I love Miranda by the way!) :cool:



    I'll get back to you on that one...



    See reply to Jarred (who made the exact same point as you!)



    If I'm not that busy and at home for the day, probably about 2 - 3 hours in total on and off throughout the day.

    If I'm studying, I'll log on in the evening for about an hour - an hour and a half. I'll dedicate more of my time to the forum if I'm elected Speaker to make sure everything is running smoothly.



    No - I will stick the constitution and will make the relevant changes with a Committee if I deem changes need to be made once I'm elected.



    For first part, see my reply to Nick.

    Second part, I think my speaker style would be pretty similar, I would say enough to justify arguments, I wouldn't ramble. I will continue to use good grammar, spelling and punctuation to make things an 'easy read'.

    I will attempt to police discussions that are getting out of hand and will make sure everyone in the House feels included and is respected for who they are. Discrimination is an absolute no no.



    Do I get your vote?
    The role of Speaker requires complete impartiality. You would have to leave the TSR Labour Party. Ignoring the fact that you couldn't hold a shadow position, or an MP position or a party position, why do you think it could be appropriate to hold a shadow government position whilst being Speaker?


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    (Original post by RoryS)
    Firstly, I believed that I wouldn't stand a chance amongst other candidates, but then, once the two manifestos were posted I thought that we wasn't enough competition between the candidates so I voted RON and decided to write a manifesto. There's no harm in trying! I will be very dedicated to a Speaker role. I'm constantly checking the forum when I'm at home and I would take on an administration system to make sure all bills, motions and petitions were submitted at the right time. I will be committed and will try not to take constant holiday breaks from the forum as this leaves MPs and party supporters unsure about who the Speaker is and where to submit their legislation and such like too.
    Thanks for your replies

    Would you accept the suggestion that people may hold that it is a little disrespectful to the other candidates in that you now stand because you think you have a chance of emerging victorious.




    For all candidates:

    Do you personally think the Constitution or Guidance Documents could be improved. Irrespective of you not having the power to alter when in office.
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    (Original post by Metrobeans)
    The role of Speaker requires complete impartiality. You would have to leave the TSR Labour Party. Ignoring the fact that you couldn't hold a shadow position, or an MP position or a party position, why do you think it could be appropriate to hold a shadow government position whilst being Speaker?


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    Oh woops! I didn't realise that. Posted will be edited according soon.

    I'd be very happy to leave the TSR Labour Party and to give up all MHoC positions. I don't think it would be appropriate for me to keep going, realising this.

    Sorry.
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    (Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
    Thanks for your replies

    Would you accept the suggestion that people may hold that it is a little disrespectful to the other candidates in that you now stand because you think you have a chance of emerging victorious.




    For all candidates:

    Do you personally think the Constitution or Guidance Documents could be improved. Irrespective of you not having the power to alter when in office.
    Point one - I understand this point of view, but I think if the option to vote RON is there then people should try to understand that people can vote for whatever option they want and should accept the fact that people can vote RON and will, most probably, see new candidates emerge outside of the spotlight first time round.

    Point two - I think the Constitution and/or Guidance Document could be improved in areas. I'd seek to step up a committee to aim to change the constitution and/or guidance document for the future taking on their ideas and overseeing the new content.
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    (Original post by Metrobeans)
    The role of Speaker requires complete impartiality. You would have to leave the TSR Labour Party.
    No he doesn't. The speaker automatically becomes a member of all parties! You know that...
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    (Original post by RoryS)
    Oh woops! I didn't realise that. Posted will be edited according soon.

    I'd be very happy to leave the TSR Labour Party and to give up all MHoC positions. I don't think it would be appropriate for me to keep going, realising this.

    Sorry.
    You don't have to apologise! :p:

    I don't get a vote and I'm not backing or opposing anyone either! Just want to ensure that candidates are questioned.


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    No he doesn't. The speaker automatically becomes a member of all parties! You know that...
    I'm confused! :rolleyes:
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