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  1. GodAtum's Avatar
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    Team GB rubbish at team sports?
    Is it me or are team GB rubbish at team sports (football, hockey etc). They seem to be winning more medals in individual sports?
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    Equestrian Team Dressage - Gold
    Equestrian Men's Team Showjumping - Gold
    Cycling Women's Team Pursuit - Gold
    Rowing Women's Lightweight Double Sculls - Gold
    Rowing Men's Coxless Four - Gold
    Cycling Men's Team Pursuit Sprint - Gold
    Rowing Women's Double Sculls - Gold
    Cycling Men's Team Sprint - Gold
    Canoe Slalom Men's C2 - Gold
    Rowing Women's Pair - Gold


    And those are just the Gold medals.

    So yeah, it's just you.
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    Re: Team GB rubbish at team sports?
    I wouldnt count those such as team dressage as a pure team sport like football.
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    Re: Team GB rubbish at team sports?
    (Original post by GodAtum)
    I wouldnt count those such as team dressage as a pure team sport like football.
    Only because your knowledge of the sport - and many others - is pathetically lacking.
    Last edited by Drewski; 09-08-2012 at 20:51.
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    Only because your knowledge of the sport - and maky others - is pathetically lacking.
    Oooh...burn.
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    Only because your knowledge of the sport - and maky others - is pathetically lacking.
    Equestrian isn't really a sport, it's an event. Hence why it's called "The Olympic Games" and not "The Olympic Sports"
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    (Original post by GodAtum)
    I wouldnt count those such as team dressage as a pure team sport like football.
    Cycling and rowing are two of our best sports and are both (largely) team sports.
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    Equestrian isn't really a sport, it's an event. Hence why it's called "The Olympic Games" and not "The Olympic Sports"
    The event in which we won gold in is a Team version. You individually can only succeed if the other members of your team also succeed. If you're so blind as to believe a team sport is only such if you pass a ball between you and your mates then I feel sorry for you.
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    Re: Team GB rubbish at team sports?
    (Original post by Drewski)
    Only because your knowledge of the sport - and maky others - is pathetically lacking.
    Harsh, and silly comment.

    Dressage and some of those others are obviously distinct from football etc. because the team doesn't actually work together - winning is more a matter of combining individuals' performances mathematically.
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    Harsh, and silly comment.

    Dressage and some of those others are obviously distinct from football etc. because the team doesn't actually work together - winning is more a matter of combining individuals' performances mathematically.
    So they're less of a team because of the way it's scored? I don't believe that. It's a team event, they will only win if everyone performs well and the team helps with that.
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    Re: Team GB rubbish at team sports?
    (Original post by OBAG09L)
    Harsh, and silly comment.

    Dressage and some of those others are obviously distinct from football etc. because the team doesn't actually work together - winning is more a matter of combining individuals' performances mathematically.
    That's exactly what I was thinking. Working together in a group game. Only team rowing is more like football as they have to work together.
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    Re: Team GB rubbish at team sports?
    (Original post by Drewski)
    The event in which we won gold in is a Team version. You individually can only succeed if the other members of your team also succeed. If you're so blind as to believe a team sport is only such if you pass a ball between you and your mates then I feel sorry for you.
    It seems OP is referring exclusively to sports, Equestrian isn't a sport. Look up numerous pages about it and you'll find none of them will say it's a sport.
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    Re: Team GB rubbish at team sports?
    (Original post by Drewski)
    So they're less of a team because of the way it's scored? I don't believe that. It's a team event, they will only win if everyone performs well and the team helps with that.
    He's getting at that it does not rely on the interplay and cooperation of team members, simply on team members performing. It is a valid distinction.

    If a cyclist is weak on the team pursuit, for example, another cyclist may find themself having to do a longer turn at the front. As you can see, the performance of each member of the team affects the other members. There is an interplay of relative strengths. The performance of the team members on the equestrian front however, is entirely individual, even if it is scored as a group.
    Last edited by RyanT; 09-08-2012 at 21:00.
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    He's getting at that it does not rely on the interplay and cooperation of team members, simply on team members performing. It is a valid distinction.
    I think team persuit cycling does
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    (Original post by Miracle Day)
    It seems OP is referring exclusively to sports, Equestrian isn't a sport. Look up numerous pages about it and you'll find none of them will say it's a sport.
    http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=spo...ient=firefox-a
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    (Original post by GodAtum)
    That's exactly what I was thinking. Working together in a group game. Only team rowing is more like football as they have to work together.
    And cycling, probably the sport we dominate most.
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    Re: Team GB rubbish at team sports?
    Ahh I don't know, by definition sports have to involve physical exertion and I don't think Equestrian does.. except for perhaps the horse
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    Ahh I don't know, by definition sports have to involve physical exertion and I don't think Equestrian does.. except for perhaps the horse
    It requires large core and leg strength, you don't just sit on the horse and let it make its own way round.
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    Re: Team GB rubbish at team sports?
    (Original post by Drewski)
    So they're less of a team because of the way it's scored? I don't believe that. It's a team event, they will only win if everyone performs well and the team helps with that.
    No one's saying they're less of a team. Although it is essential all team members pull their weight in the dressage, the dependability of thorough teamwork is not as essential as it is in football.

    You can get a good individual score in the dressage without the support of your team; however, in football you're not going to score if your team aren't behind you and physically helping you in the sport.

    I think the OP is referring to sports that involve direct physical interaction - e.g. passing a ball to another team member.
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    Re: Team GB rubbish at team sports?
    (Original post by Converse Rocker)
    It requires large core and leg strength, you don't just sit on the horse and let it make its own way round.
    Lol>.>

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