Feminism cannot succeed
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Feminism cannot succeedToo much of society is affected by gender it isn't like race or religion. In sports women and men are separated. In prison men and women and separated. In toilets and changing rooms men and women are separated. As long as these segregationist barriers exist men and women will never be equal and ultimately feminism will fail.
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Re: Feminism cannot succeedAs long as segregation exists men and women are not equal.(Original post by democracyforum)
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Re: Feminism cannot succeeddittto...that would just benefit the men(Original post by ShrinkyDink)
I'm definitely an enforcer of women's rights; but I sure as hell don't see how me getting changed in the men's room is going to effect equality, lol.
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Re: Feminism cannot succeedIt is simple replace the word women with black and men for white and see how politically incorrect the statement is. Black people in the US had to go through segregation and they did not like it. Women have gotten so used to it that they don't even realise they are being repressed.(Original post by ShrinkyDink)
I'm definitely an enforcer of women's rights; but I sure as hell don't see how me getting changed in the men's room is going to effect equality, lol.
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Re: Feminism cannot succeedIs this a very lame attempt to ridicule feminism or what?(Original post by lambert1)
It is simple replace the word women with black and men for white and see how politically incorrect the statement is. Black people in the US had to go through segregation and they did not like it. Women have gotten so used to it that they don't even realise they are being repressed. -
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Technically that idea could be reversed. You could even say that men are being segregated from us...(Original post by lambert1)
It is simple replace the word women with black and men for white and see how politically incorrect the statement is. Black people in the US had to go through segregation and they did not like it. Women have gotten so used to it that they don't even realise they are being repressed.
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Re: Feminism cannot succeedUh no. The point of segregation towards black people was the conditions were not equal and black people were demeaned.(Original post by lambert1)
It is simple replace the word women with black and men for white and see how politically incorrect the statement is. Black people in the US had to go through segregation and they did not like it. Women have gotten so used to it that they don't even realise they are being repressed.
The point with men and women changing in separate changing rooms is not to demean women. Women don't change in sewers while men change in palaces. Changing rooms or toilets aren't meant to display male superiority, so I don't see your point.Last edited by Xotol; 10-08-2012 at 01:17. -
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Re: Feminism cannot succeedYou could do but I see this separation as entirely unnecessary these aren't the modest Christian value days of old this is the 21st century.(Original post by ShrinkyDink)
Technically that idea could be reversed. You could even say that men are being segregated from us...
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Amen to that!(Original post by Xotol)
Uh no. The point of segregation towards black people was the conditions were not equal and black people were demeaned.
The point with men and women changing in separate changing rooms is not to demean women. Women don't change in sewers while men change in palaces. Either way, changing rooms aren't to display male superiority, so I don't see your point.
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Re: Feminism cannot succeedIs the back of the bus worst than the front? No. It isn't about better and worst it is about the freedom to sit where you want. It is about the freedom to change in the changing room you want. Where does a transgender person change? Your bigoted views are certainly very offensive.(Original post by Xotol)
Uh no. The point of segregation towards black people was the conditions were not equal and black people were demeaned.
The point with men and women changing in separate changing rooms is not to demean women. Women don't change in sewers while men change in palaces. Either way, changing rooms aren't to display male superiority, so I don't see your point. -
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Re: Feminism cannot succeedOkay, I want to change in a female changing room but I'm not allowed. Oh, the segregation against males! Masculism cannot succeed.(Original post by lambert1)
Is the back of the bus worst than the front? No. It isn't about better and worst it is about the freedom to sit where you want. It is about the freedom to change in the changing room you want. Where does a transgender person change? Your bigoted views are certainly very offensive.
The point of changing rooms is to respect privacy for both males and females, not to demean women. Your point is ridiculous. -
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Re: Feminism cannot succeedI'm a woman and I'm glad I don't have to generally share public bathrooms with men. I have enough with sharing a bathroom at home with 2 men already, thanks.(Original post by lambert1)
You could do but I see this separation as entirely unnecessary these aren't the modest Christian value days of old this is the 21st century. -
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Re: Feminism cannot succeedThey are separated in sports (except equestrian
) because men have physical advantage over woman in most sports (I think the difference between males 100m and females 100m was just over 1 second, which means the woman would never win), and woman have advantages over men in other sports (high jump, gymnastics etc)
Men and woman are segregated in prison to stop the woman from being raped.
Unisex toilets exist. But just think about it. Why would a woman want to go into a mens toilets? They all smell like piss because of our peeing splashing off the urinals.
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Re: Feminism cannot succeedIt sends a very strong message that "we men are stronger than you women now go to your pathetic separate prisons and compete in your joke sports" it is totally unfair and insists that men are superior.(Original post by Xotol)
Okay, I want to change in a female changing room but I'm not allowed. Oh, the segregation against males! Masculism cannot succeed.
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Re: Feminism cannot succeedI think you'll find that the aim of a lot of modern feminists is gaining equality in terms of choice. As in, a woman should have the choice to wear what she wants, the choice to have a career or to be a stay-at-home mum, the choice to have an abortion or to keep her baby - all without being unfairly judged. Men face few of the same barriers as women do in this respect. In my opinion, this is an achievable end. And I don't think many feminists want prisons to be mixed sex.(Original post by lambert1)
Too much of society is affected by gender it isn't like race or religion. In sports women and men are separated. In prison men and women and separated. In toilets and changing rooms men and women are separated. As long as these segregationist barriers exist men and women will never be equal and ultimately feminism will fail. -
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Re: Feminism cannot succeedIn the US more men are raped than women.(Original post by zaliack)
They are separated in sports (except equestrian) because men have physical advantage over woman in most sports (I think the difference between males 100m and females 100m was just over 1 second, which means the woman would never win), and woman have advantages over men in other sports (high jump, gymnastics etc)
Men and woman are segregated in prison to stop the woman from being raped.
Unisex toilets exist. But just think about it. Why would a woman want to go into a mens toilets? They all smell like piss because of our peeing splashing off the urinals.
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Re: Feminism cannot succeedIn terms of equal legal right's it is possible for feminism to succeed (Liberal Feminism); in fact you could argue that it already has or that it has swung the pendulum too far the other way. But in terms of equal outcomes (which is what socialist and radical feminists tend to want) then feminism can never succeed; this is because economic and political power is always distributed unevenly in society. It's either men are more powerful or women are more powerful, there can never be a balanced equilibrium.
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) because men have physical advantage over woman in most sports (I think the difference between males 100m and females 100m was just over 1 second, which means the woman would never win), and woman have advantages over men in other sports (high jump, gymnastics etc)
