[amoo_h]

Hi,

I want to do a foundation degree in editing followed by an hons in filmmaking, the way I understand it, is that since the foundation degree isnt a full degree, I will get funding for another degree if I choose to do so. then when I complete my hons degree, I can pay for the final top-up year for the editing course myself at later time if i wish, that way I get funding for 2 degrees minus one final year, the reason I wish to do two is mainly because its easier to get onto the foundation degree, it offers one year work placement, and then I will easily be able to go onto a full degree(the one I really want).

or is that not how it works

thanks for your help

[SJD1988]

A foundation degree will be treated the same way as if you did a normal BA/Bsc etc degree. As in that it takes from your funding except afterwards you will be able to progress to final year of a Bsc/BA. So no you wont be able to do two degree's.
I will be studying for a foundation degree come this september and will be receiving full funding grant bursary, tuition etc.

From what I have been told by CAB and SFE is that if you got funding for the 2 years of a Foundation and paid for the top up yourself you would not get funding whatsoever for a 2nd degree but could get the funding for the top up.

Sorry, hope this helps.

[amoo_h]

But after completing my foundation degree will I not be able to go on and do a Full degree? will they not issue a loan for the second one?

[bestofyou]

(Original post by amoo_h)
Hi,

I want to do a foundation degree in editing followed by an hons in filmmaking, the way I understand it, is that since the foundation degree isnt a full degree, I will get funding for another degree if I choose to do so. then when I complete my hons degree, I can pay for the final top-up year for the editing course myself at later time if i wish, that way I get funding for 2 degrees minus one final year, the reason I wish to do two is mainly because its easier to get onto the foundation degree, it offers one year work placement, and then I will easily be able to go onto a full degree(the one I really want).

or is that not how it works

thanks for your help

not exactly sure just what in the hell you are talking about...but:

if the F.degree is 2years and you get entry onto 2nd year of a 3year hons then you'll get funding for both degrees. However if it only gets you onto the first year of the 3year hons then you'll have to pay for the first year yourself.

[SJD1988]

(Original post by amoo_h)
But after completing my foundation degree will I not be able to go on and do a Full degree? will they not issue a loan for the second one?

If you were to restart and do a 2nd full time degree you would have to pay for the first year yourself possibly the 2nd, but why not just do the foundation degree and top it up at least this way you would get full funding, unless you have several thousand quid lying about.

[amoo_h]

haha sorry

what i meant was i was told by a teacher that if you get funding for anything less than an BA hons degree. you will be able to reapply and get funding again, so my idea was to finish a two year foundation and then start a three year BA.

but i guess thats not how it works.

[amoo_h]

and i dont want to top it up because what I really want to specialize in is the production side of film making, but thought it is a good idea to have a good grasp of editing as well. and it will be much easier for me to get onto a foundation course initially.

[SJD1988]

(Original post by amoo_h)
haha sorry

what i meant was i was told by a teacher that if you get funding for anything less than an BA hons degree. you will be able to reapply and get funding again, so my idea was to finish a two year foundation and then start a three year BA.

but i guess thats not how it works.

No it don't work like that, I know from experience, I dropped out of University after one year and going back this september to do another subject, (I also had to argue and fight to even get my first year funded.) as such I have lost a years funding. if you did a foundation degree you would lose 2 years funding.

Sorry Im sure it's not what you wanted to hear.

normally they work it out years studied plus one minus previous years studied.

so if you do a foundation degree and then went onto a three year degree

3+1-2=2 years funded potentially (the university would charge you for the first year at the very least), but whether the equal qualification clause ( as in a foundation degree is equivilant to the first two years of a full degree) would affect that is another matter.

[amoo_h]

ok so another idea, the first year of the foundation degree can be completed by itself and you get a certificate. if after that one year i change to a full degree(they will be more likely to accept me right?) I will get funded for all three years?

please let it be so

3+1-1=3, right?

[SJD1988]

Yes that would be correct, essentially what I have done one year of previous study going back now to study I will only get three years funding so if I fail a year, not resits for me ( just more incentive to not fail).

Have you spoke to the uni about the respective course you want to study and see if they might accept the foundation degree and allow entry onto the 2nd or third year of your degree, just seems like alot of money would go to waste and time.

[RachelSophia]

It sounds like you're confused between a degree and diploma

I'm doing a foundation DEGREE this september, you get exactly the same funding as you would if you were to do any other degree... By that i mean you get tuition loan, maintenance loan and/or maintenance grant.
Foundation degrees are always 2 years, i think, at the end of year 2 you can get a top up year or 2 (course dependant) on a similar degree course... You enter this course in year 2 or 3 (again course dependant). **For example my foundation is 2 years, after that i have 2 years top-up... 4 years at university**
EDIT: Also it's worth noting that you will only get loans for every year IF you start your main degree from year 2 onwards... they consider the 2nd year of your foundation to be the 1st of your degree

However with a foundation DIPLOMA you do not get funding from student finance. The course itself is free if you're 18 before the 1st/2nd September. If you're older then it is around £2K and you can find a student load from a bank. As for living costs you can apply for some sort of career loan from the bank. Diplomas are also only 1 year long full time and you can start a degree course after that from year 1 where you will be entitled to loans from student finance

Hope that helps

[shanghaichica]

I don't know a lot about foundation degrees but have the funding rules changed??? Because I had 4 funded years. In 2002 I started a law degree and completed the first year which was funded. Then 2003-2006 I completed the full three years of a Molecular Biology degree which was funded. Just before I changed courses I contacted my LEA to see if I would be able to change course and still be funded for the full three years and I was told that I would. Obviously I did my degree 6 years ago so things might have changed but I got 4 years funded.

[SJD1988]

If you did only one year you would be funded for a further 3/4 but I think the OP was wanting to complete a foundation then do a full degree, then after this pay for a top up on the foundation.

The problem the OP has the foundation is 2 years so cuts that much into his funding, as such would either need to start from year 2 onwards or pay for the first year in his new degree.

I done the same as you in that I studied one year and now going back to university to do a different course.

[shanghaichica]

(Original post by SJD1988)
If you did only one year you would be funded for a further 3/4 but I think the OP was wanting to complete a foundation then do a full degree, then after this pay for a top up on the foundation.

The problem the OP has the foundation is 2 years so cuts that much into his funding, as such would either need to start from year 2 onwards or pay for the first year in his new degree.

I done the same as you in that I studied one year and now going back to university to do a different course.

Oh I see so it would be like doing 5 years in total. Good luck with your course

Edit just seen your earlier post. I always had that in the back of my mind that I couldn't afford to repeat a year/ do any resits because I wouldn't get fudning. Luckily I passed every year.

[SJD1988]

(Original post by shanghaichica)
Oh I see so it would be like doing 5 years in total. Good luck with your course

Aye, yeh student finance gets stupid about it, When I left my last University they took the second year of funding incorrectly as such intially I wouldnt get funded for my second course, it was a nightmare for the uni to admit fault and get student finance to recall the money to release the funding for my new course. Right up to a couple weeks ago didnt think I was going to be able to go .


But thank you very much, looking forward to it