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25 yrs old, starting from the bottom with a long way to go, help please

Hi Everyone

Ive been deciding whether or not higher education was something for me for about a year now, after countless hours of figuring things out and trying to see where my life is heading I've finally decided its best i go back to education to try and improve my future, my end goal is to become a Teacher and travel the world in the process.

I travelled and lived in Asia for 2.5 years (ive been home for 1 year now) and I'm set on living out there for a large amount, if not the rest of my life.

Ive been thinking of ways to sustain myself, coming up with all sorts of ideas, investment strategies but really it always boils down to the same thing, sustainability and visa trouble. I need to work in Asia in order to stay there indefinitely. So in order to live there teaching seems like the best option....

Problem is I have nothing, no degree, no qualifications and no experience.

Now unlike some who just jump the gun and go out there and hope to get something I want to do it properly with the goal of progressing as a teacher into a well paid position. I actually want this to be my career not just a way of covering my costs while i travel around for a few years.

I know that this requires me to have a degree and a teacher certificate (which i believe is roughly 3-4 years for a degree and 1 year to become a qualified teacher (QTS) here in UK).

The only thing that has been holding me back has been the thought of studying something i have no interest in, as i know i won't stick to it (i thought to be a teacher i needed to have a degree in the subject i taught, teaching English in Asia led me to believe i would therefore need an English degree). Turns out you can have a degree in any subject, they just want to to be qualified in your country and obviously have experience. This was such a relief to find this as it made my dream now a reality. I was forced to study subjects i didn't want to study whilst at college when i was 16 and wasted 2 years and came out with an E grade A Level in Geology, the rest of the subject i failed.

QUESTION - When it comes to applying to Uni's after i complete the Access to HE course would you suggest including this on my UCAS for the measly amount of points it will provide?

I don't want to make this same mistake and would like to study something i have a passion in.

I know my passions in life - Music (not producing, just listening), blogging, Photography, Films, documenting life (through video and photography)

I also have an absolute passion for improving my health through nutrition and exercise, but honestly i can see myself doing this at Uni due to the complexity of these subjects.

Really i just need to find something that i am interested in and that is relatively easy, i just need a degree, doesn't matter what subject. I guess i am sort of lucky as i do not need a specific degree in order to progress my career, simply having any degree will put me on the right track to where i want to be.

Feel free to suggest some subjects i could research further to see if they would suit me

I need to figure out what subject I want to study, I guess this means talking to people who have done courses containing my interests (hopefully this forum will have a few people)

Once i know i can then choose a similar course in the Access to HE category to aid my application into University. Now ive missed the boat this year which isn't too much of a problem because it gives me another year of working to save money to cover some costs whilst i study for the next 4-5 years.

I thought about doing the Access to HE part time but thought it would just be better to do it full time and complete it in 1 year. What are your thoughts on this,

1) is it a large workload
2) can you just study one subject whilst on the Access to HE course.

QUESTION - Seeing as i have another year to wait to start the Access to HE course is there anything I can be doing this year to help myself to make sure i pass the course (apart from saving money)
(edited 11 years ago)
Hey! Well I'm going to do access to he in September. It's honestly the only way I could work out how to get into uni. I think that once I've finished the course I'm still gonna need a ton of other things. But ho hum. It apparently looks "really good" if you do it - we'll that's according to the college I'm doing it at. But there gonna say that aren't they!!



Good luck!


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Reply 2
Original post by Peco
Hi Everyone

Ive been deciding whether or not higher education was something for me for about a year now, after countless hours of figuring things out and trying to see where my life is heading I've finally decided its best i go back to education to try and improve my future, my end goal is to become a Teacher and travel the world in the process.

I travelled and lived in Asia for 2.5 years (ive been home for 1 year now) and I'm set on living out there for a large amount, if not the rest of my life.

Ive been thinking of ways to sustain myself, coming up with all sorts of ideas, investment strategies but really it always boils down to the same thing, sustainability and visa trouble. I need to work in Asia in order to stay there indefinitely. So in order to live there teaching seems like the best option....

Problem is I have nothing, no degree, no qualifications and no experience.

Now unlike some who just jump the gun and go out there and hope to get something I want to do it properly with the goal of progressing as a teacher into a well paid position. I actually want this to be my career not just a way of covering my costs while i travel around for a few years.

I know that this requires me to have a degree and a teacher certificate (which i believe is roughly 3-4 years for a degree and 1 year to become a qualified teacher (QTS) here in UK).

The only thing that has been holding me back has been the thought of studying something i have no interest in, as i know i won't stick to it (i thought to be a teacher i needed to have a degree in the subject i taught, teaching English in Asia led me to believe i would therefore need an English degree). Turns out you can have a degree in any subject, they just want to to be qualified in your country and obviously have experience. This was such a relief to find this as it made my dream now a reality. I was forced to study subjects i didn't want to study whilst at college when i was 16 and wasted 2 years and came out with an E grade A Level in Geology, the rest of the subject i failed.

QUESTION - When it comes to applying to Uni's after i complete the Access to HE course would you suggest including this on my UCAS for the measly amount of points it will provide?

I don't want to make this same mistake and would like to study something i have a passion in.

I know my passions in life - Music (not producing, just listening), blogging, Photography, Films, documenting life (through video and photography)

I also have an absolute passion for improving my health through nutrition and exercise, but honestly i can see myself doing this at Uni due to the complexity of these subjects.

Really i just need to find something that i am interested in and that is relatively easy, i just need a degree, doesn't matter what subject. I guess i am sort of lucky as i do not need a specific degree in order to progress my career, simply having any degree will put me on the right track to where i want to be.

Feel free to suggest some subjects i could research further to see if they would suit me

I need to figure out what subject I want to study, I guess this means talking to people who have done courses containing my interests (hopefully this forum will have a few people)

Once i know i can then choose a similar course in the Access to HE category to aid my application into University. Now ive missed the boat this year which isn't too much of a problem because it gives me another year of working to save money to cover some costs whilst i study for the next 4-5 years.

I thought about doing the Access to HE part time but thought it would just be better to do it full time and complete it in 1 year. What are your thoughts on this,

1) is it a large workload
2) can you just study one subject whilst on the Access to HE course.

QUESTION - Seeing as i have another year to wait to start the Access to HE course is there anything I can be doing this year to help myself to make sure i pass the course (apart from saving money)


I'm unable to answer all of your questions as I'm starting Access to HE this year.

I do know though that YES it is a large workload. You're preparing for University which is also a large workload. The Access to HE course is Level 3 work which is equivalent to A-Levels. In A-Levels you take 3 subjects but you have 2yrs. With Access you only have 1.

You can't study just one subject. You have to choose 3 modules out of those available to you.

It's irrelevant if you do it part time for 2yrs or full time for 1yr - the work is still the same. It all has to be done so why make it 2yrs unless you absolutely have to? Full time is 3 days a week for 5hrs, 1 of those including lunch (in my college, anyway). One extra day I have to go in for an extra hour to do Study Skills/Toolbox.

Personally, I think if you're just looking for something "easy" you may as well not bother. Education isn't meant to be easy and if you only want easy you're not going to have the drive and dedication you need to complete everything.

That's just my 2 cents, take it for what you will.
Reply 3
You mentioned that you enjoyed travelling? Have you thought about studying Travel and Tourism?
Also, what about studying with the Open University?
Reply 4
Original post by Peachtwist
I'm unable to answer all of your questions as I'm starting Access to HE this year.

I do know though that YES it is a large workload. You're preparing for University which is also a large workload. The Access to HE course is Level 3 work which is equivalent to A-Levels. In A-Levels you take 3 subjects but you have 2yrs. With Access you only have 1.


You can't study just one subject. You have to choose 3 modules out of those available to you.

So say for instance i chose Art & Media access to he course, would that be equivalent to 2-3 a levels? or would i have to choose multiple access to he courses??

Original post by Peachtwist
It's irrelevant if you do it part time for 2yrs or full time for 1yr - the work is still the same. It all has to be done so why make it 2yrs unless you absolutely have to? Full time is 3 days a week for 5hrs, 1 of those including lunch (in my college, anyway). One extra day I have to go in for an extra hour to do Study Skills/Toolbox.


Well its quite relevant really, i mean the difference would mean studying AND working over 2 years

or

Not working and studying full time.....

But as you say full time study is only 3 days per week??? Which to me is really part time. Are all full time access to he course only 3 days per week????

Original post by Peachtwist
Personally, I think if you're just looking for something "easy" you may as well not bother. Education isn't meant to be easy and if you only want easy you're not going to have the drive and dedication you need to complete everything.

That's just my 2 cents, take it for what you will.


i think you have failed to read my entire post (it was quite long i must admit)

Im not looking for ANY easy subject, im looking for subjects that first and foremost i have an interest in and secondly something that is easy as afterall i just need a degree, doesn't matter what its in.

Im just trying to increase my chances of gaining a degree out of all of this.


Original post by TeleostJester
Hey! Well I'm going to do access to he in September. It's honestly the only way I could work out how to get into uni. I think that once I've finished the course I'm still gonna need a ton of other things. But ho hum. It apparently looks "really good" if you do it - we'll that's according to the college I'm doing it at. But there gonna say that aren't they!!



Good luck!


yes i too was searching for a while on how to get into uni with no a levels etc, but read one sentence on this forum that told me i was wasting my time looking for stuff like this.

It was something along the lines of Access to HE is available for people in our situation for a reason, it was created exactly for us mature students, if it wasn't needed it wouldn't be here

Original post by MattNE
You mentioned that you enjoyed travelling? Have you thought about studying Travel and Tourism?
Also, what about studying with the Open University?


If studying travel and tourism involves lengthy amounts of the year sitting in a hot country, doing absolutely nothing but chilling, listening to music, drinking sugar cane juice, eating amazing street food and watching life go by then sure ill start studying it straight away ^_^
Reply 5
I am delighted to see you have the goal, now you just need to figure out how to achieve it.

But unhelpful as it might seem, you really need to work out quickly what degree you wish to study. There are a number of reasons for this, but to briefly go over them. Eliminate all degrees that will exclude you from being funded for teacher training, and do not forget you may find it helpful to get some work experience in teaching before you emigrate (give added weight to subjects that there are shortages for). Then you could try the UCAS site to see what degree’s you might hopefully be interested in, or at the very worst could suffer for three years. Then you need to find out what Access to HE course they require to offer you a place. At some point you are going to have to write a Personal Statement to support your application to UCAS. I would suggest writing this now as you will have little time once your Access course starts. Being 25, you will obviously have more of a narrative than say an 18 year old, but find the guides by subject here on TSR for pointers.

While I hate to sound like your grumpy grandfather, and at the risk of stating the obvious, both the Access and university courses will be tough, if you make a bad choice, or do not commit fully to both, your dream may well hit a brick wall. I certainly wish you well with it, as I like the idea of where you should end up.
Reply 6
Original post by Peco


If studying travel and tourism involves lengthy amounts of the year sitting in a hot country, doing absolutely nothing but chilling, listening to music, drinking sugar cane juice, eating amazing street food and watching life go by then sure ill start studying it straight away ^_^


Unfortunately not! It involves looking at tourism impacts on destinations, how sustainable they are, management and planning of events and visitor attractions + so much more! If you like travelling then there's a huge possibility that this will appeal to you, and with your experience of living in Asia, I think it would be great for you to study a course like this.
Reply 7
Could you not do a teaching degree?
Reply 8
OP: You must study something you're interested in and also, do look online at the level of university courses. mitopencourseware is a good place to spy on lecture notes to see if you're capable of doing the lectures as your E in geology (geography?) rang alarm bells. Not everyone is capable of doing a degree, you can save yourself years of hardship and disappointment if you face this truth.

If you want advice on how to pass your access course, at least tell us what it consists of? Maths? Plenty of maths websites out there all willing to teach you, etc. Just look at the modules and get googling for resources.

Original post by MattNE
You mentioned that you enjoyed travelling? Have you thought about studying Travel and Tourism?
Also, what about studying with the Open University?


Please don't post such **** advice.
(edited 11 years ago)
Reply 9
What about a CELTA course? I'm not sure what the prerequisites are for something like this, but it is pretty well recognised abroad.
Reply 10
Original post by RyanT



Please don't post such **** advice.


Wow, someone's aggressive. It was not **** advice, thanks! I don't wish to hear your feedback on it anyway, so go away.
Original post by Peco
You can't study just one subject. You have to choose 3 modules out of those available to you.

So say for instance i chose Art & Media access to he course, would that be equivalent to 2-3 a levels? or would i have to choose multiple access to he courses??

Well its quite relevant really, i mean the difference would mean studying AND working over 2 years

or

Not working and studying full time.....

But as you say full time study is only 3 days per week??? Which to me is really part time. Are all full time access to he course only 3 days per week????

i think you have failed to read my entire post (it was quite long i must admit)

Im not looking for ANY easy subject, im looking for subjects that first and foremost i have an interest in and secondly something that is easy as afterall i just need a degree, doesn't matter what its in.


I've never heard of someone studying Art & Media at Access level.

I know my specific college offers 8 choices of modules and HAD to choose 3. These were my choices to choose between:

English Language
English Literature
Quantitative Methods
Chemistry
Biology
Psychology
Health work/care
Social work/care

Those are the only choices we had, but I am in a smaller area. I know other colleges do have a wider range but you'd have to find one local to you and choose according to that.

I don't know if all Access full time courses are only 3 days a week, I would suspect so however you're supposed to use days off/weekends to do homework/assignments etc. You're definitely kidding yourself if you think you'll be able to work and maintain a good standard level of work. Just passing the course won't be enough to get you into University.

You're right, I didn't read your entire post but like I said you won't find anything easy about Access to HE or University, no matter what the subject is. It's higher education, it isn't meant to be easy.

Take a look at your local college. Call them or check their website to find out what modules they offer or explain your situtation and ask what they suggest.
Reply 12
Original post by Wibble99
I am delighted to see you have the goal, now you just need to figure out how to achieve it.

But unhelpful as it might seem, you really need to work out quickly what degree you wish to study. There are a number of reasons for this, but to briefly go over them. Eliminate all degrees that will exclude you from being funded for teacher training, and do not forget you may find it helpful to get some work experience in teaching before you emigrate (give added weight to subjects that there are shortages for). Then you could try the UCAS site to see what degree’s you might hopefully be interested in, or at the very worst could suffer for three years. Then you need to find out what Access to HE course they require to offer you a place. At some point you are going to have to write a Personal Statement to support your application to UCAS. I would suggest writing this now as you will have little time once your Access course starts. Being 25, you will obviously have more of a narrative than say an 18 year old, but find the guides by subject here on TSR for pointers.

While I hate to sound like your grumpy grandfather, and at the risk of stating the obvious, both the Access and university courses will be tough, if you make a bad choice, or do not commit fully to both, your dream may well hit a brick wall. I certainly wish you well with it, as I like the idea of where you should end up.


Yes i understand this, though as i said, i have missed the boat this year, so i have until next august to figure out what i want to do. I really like the sound of studying photography or perhaps media, i like using photoshop and would love to get into video so i could create music videos as i run a net label.

Teacher funding - what exactly is this, im guessing its receiving funding during the year i study to gain my QTS after i finish my degree right?

How would i go about finding subjects that qualify for this?

I thought you could do any subject and follow on to train as a teacher and receive funding. I hope the media & arts subject are included in this, if not that will be a real bummer!

Yes ill be sure to do some teacher training and also probably a CELTA course as i actually want to be a good teacher not someone just going over there to doss and teach.

I am positive i can fully commit myself to my goal, i live a simple life so dedicating myself to something is easy. I will happily remain single for the next 5 years, I do not drink, take drugs etc, girlfriends and all that crap will not take up my life thank god.

Original post by MattNE
Unfortunately not! It involves looking at tourism impacts on destinations, how sustainable they are, management and planning of events and visitor attractions + so much more! If you like travelling then there's a huge possibility that this will appeal to you, and with your experience of living in Asia, I think it would be great for you to study a course like this.


ye definitely doesn't sound like something im interested in, i hated all the touristy crap and attractions when i was travelling. My view of travelling is simply to live in a place for a long time, only then do you pick up the true character of a city, the customs, culture and people.

Original post by jami74
Could you not do a teaching degree?


This may sound a bit daft but it doesn't really interest me, i know wanting to be a teacher that does sound a bit weird but its more down to the fact that if i had the chance to choose between something a little more creative, like photography for instance, or a teaching degree the choice would be photography everytime.


Original post by RyanT
OP: You must study something you're interested in and also, do look online at the level of university courses. mitopencourseware is a good place to spy on lecture notes to see if you're capable of doing the lectures as your E in geology (geography?) rang alarm bells. Not everyone is capable of doing a degree, you can save yourself years of hardship and disappointment if you face this truth.

If you want advice on how to pass your access course, at least tell us what it consists of? Maths? Plenty of maths websites out there all willing to teach you, etc. Just look at the modules and get googling for resources.



Please don't post such **** advice.


Geology not geography :smile:

I got an E from not revising a single bit, having about 3 hours sleep the night before the test and not even answering all the questions on the paper

I failed college not because I am stupid more down the fact i really could not give a **** what happened during that time. I just saw college as an excuse not to work for another 2 years. I didn't have the option to do courses i actually wanted to do (idiot parents saw photography, media and Physcology a waste of time) so i just thought **** it.

Original post by kf289
What about a CELTA course? I'm not sure what the prerequisites are for something like this, but it is pretty well recognised abroad.


Yes a good suggestion but I have to concentrate on Access to HE, then 3 years of Uni to get a degree before i think about doing courses like this. Without a degree CELTA is useless to me.
Reply 13
Original post by Peco

Geology not geography :smile:

I got an E from not revising a single bit, having about 3 hours sleep the night before the test and not even answering all the questions on the paper

I failed college not because I am stupid more down the fact i really could not give a **** what happened during that time. I just saw college as an excuse not to work for another 2 years. I didn't have the option to do courses i actually wanted to do (idiot parents saw photography, media and Physcology a waste of time) so i just thought **** it.


Okay well go on MIT opencourseware and look at the level of difficulty undergraduate degrees are and get back to us on your feelings about it.
Reply 14
From a teaching perspective, if you want funding, you need to to have a degree which is 2:1 or better and in a in demand subject area. These tend to be science and at the moment modern languages see http://www.education.gov.uk/get-into-teaching/funding/training-in-england/postgraduate-funding.aspx . Expect the list of in favour subjects to change.

Since you like to travel, a language could be helpful. Plus you may be able to take a year abroad as part if your degree. Assuming you have GCSE Maths and English at B or above (this is more about the PGCE funding threshold). Then you could do a arts foundation and pursue a language course aiming to achieve level 3 standard. It can be hard to find language courses that gain you a level 3 qualification for University purposes. Consider also an English language A level, to give you a better core language base.

If you can gain a recognised TEFL qualification and relevant experience in the UK, plus a degree, that may help. Bear in mind that French and German are not in demand for teachers in Asia Pacific, from a jobs perspective. In the UK there is growing demand for Chinese and other Asian languages, Arabic could also be useful.
(edited 11 years ago)

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